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I think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career."
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Good point | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing."
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How many Scaramuccis was that? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point"
] |
>
Always love the Mooches time scale | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?"
] |
>
If that’s his real name. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale"
] |
>
It's actually Kitara Ravache. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name."
] |
>
His first name is Lyle | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache."
] |
>
Lyle Detyme? I think I met him once. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle"
] |
>
Wait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once."
] |
>
If he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light."
] |
>
The fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate.
Not sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass."
] |
>
The poster child of your Republican Party. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation."
] |
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His wife must be Morgan Fairchild. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party."
] |
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Yeah that’s the ticket!
Speaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild."
] |
>
The fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care). | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket"
] |
>
What? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned... | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care)."
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vlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned..."
] |
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Good, now he can focus on his cure for cancer. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad."
] |
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If George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer."
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No, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?"
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Odds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that"
] |
>
The reverse Bolsonaro? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?"
] |
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Sounds dirty. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?"
] |
>
The best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty."
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Seriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos."
] |
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He just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?"
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“We should leave it up to the voters”
Bitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools."
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He is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash."
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McCarthy doesn’t need any help with that. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it"
] |
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For a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that."
] |
>
I wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.
I'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to."
] |
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Boebert thought people were talking about "ethnics" | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her."
] |
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Man, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\""
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I worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it."
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He is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics"
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A mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense."
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Why was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place."
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Hahahahah.
Fire that nutjob. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?"
] |
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He did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob."
] |
>
“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “ | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point."
] |
>
The 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “"
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He should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than "leader" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from."
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Dude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time."
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Politics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience."
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It can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism."
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I mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.
The platform was "Whatever they want, we want the opposite." | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020."
] |
>
I sincerely doubt he "stepped down", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\""
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Snake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord."
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We're still calling them "issues"? Come on, man. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water"
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The first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man."
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Well he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave"
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Unironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed."
] |
>
".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy."
What does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence."
] |
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The Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?"
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I’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?"
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This is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America."
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I'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man"
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He doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension."
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The fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face"
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This guy has the brain of a middle schooler | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler"
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How dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber"
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Can I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo"
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The fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?"
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He's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore."
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He's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary... | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits."
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Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.
Makes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.” | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary..."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”"
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Nooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo."
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I'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is "well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar" | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\""
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Is he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?"
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Temporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?"
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He claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible."
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Good thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics? | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this"
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So he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?
Make him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us! | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!"
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!",
">\n\nThe man needs to take a long walk off a short pier. This human trash has been conning people and stealing since before he was an adult. Now he's a waste of air."
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Keep stepping, George or whatever your name is. | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!",
">\n\nThe man needs to take a long walk off a short pier. This human trash has been conning people and stealing since before he was an adult. Now he's a waste of air.",
">\n\nMcCarthy tells santos to step down from committees until this blows over because he doesn’t want to have to do anything to punish this guy."
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If this happened in corporate America, he’s be out of a job so fast. The fact that we have to encourage him to resign instead of just firing his ass blows my goddamn mind | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!",
">\n\nThe man needs to take a long walk off a short pier. This human trash has been conning people and stealing since before he was an adult. Now he's a waste of air.",
">\n\nMcCarthy tells santos to step down from committees until this blows over because he doesn’t want to have to do anything to punish this guy.",
">\n\nKeep stepping, George or whatever your name is."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!",
">\n\nThe man needs to take a long walk off a short pier. This human trash has been conning people and stealing since before he was an adult. Now he's a waste of air.",
">\n\nMcCarthy tells santos to step down from committees until this blows over because he doesn’t want to have to do anything to punish this guy.",
">\n\nKeep stepping, George or whatever your name is.",
">\n\nIf this happened in corporate America, he’s be out of a job so fast. The fact that we have to encourage him to resign instead of just firing his ass blows my goddamn mind"
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Can’t believe these jagaloons get voted in. Better yet why run if you know your a gigantic fraud? I get it I get it, there are others but this one might be the most brazen yet! Right? Right?! | [
"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!",
">\n\nThe man needs to take a long walk off a short pier. This human trash has been conning people and stealing since before he was an adult. Now he's a waste of air.",
">\n\nMcCarthy tells santos to step down from committees until this blows over because he doesn’t want to have to do anything to punish this guy.",
">\n\nKeep stepping, George or whatever your name is.",
">\n\nIf this happened in corporate America, he’s be out of a job so fast. The fact that we have to encourage him to resign instead of just firing his ass blows my goddamn mind",
">\n\nThanks to MTG's big mouth, (shocking that she's this stupid /s) we know that Santos only stepped down so that the Republicans could get the votes to remove Omar from her committee."
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"Still getting his $174,000 ($6,692 pre-tax every two weeks) paycheck currently. He will not leave Congress voluntarily. Why would he? Now, he can pretend to do even less.",
">\n\nHe’ll still get to be a lobbyist or work at a think tank after too.",
">\n\nAny think tank that would hire him at this point is failing to do any thinking. \nMy bet is that he ends up as a reoccurring guest talking head over on Fox.",
">\n\nThey’re absolutely going to hire him. Look at his resume:\nCongressman\nFirst astronaut to walk on Jupiter \nTaught Jesus carpentry \nSurgically reconnected Stonewall Jackson’s arm. \nSuccessfully reanimated said arm, leading to the influence for Thing of the Addams Family. \nHe literally does it all.",
">\n\nThey need to put a new subheading under his name every time he’s on: “Inventor of Question mark”, “First Female Astronaut”, “Founding member of Simon & Garfunkel & Santos”.",
">\n\nThere really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it’s breathtaking",
">\n\nReally helps you get into the mood for a Brazilian drag show",
">\n\nI wish I was as passionate about something in my life like the way George Santos is passionate about lying.",
">\n\nMay someone someday look at you the way George Santos looks at an absolutely outrageous falsehood.",
">\n\n.....like he wants to fuck it?????",
">\n\nHe says he doesnt... but he's been known to lie before.",
">\n\nJorge Santos life is a whole fucking lie",
">\n\nHow many lies has this guy made so far getting into his position? I'm surprised he doesn't have any sexual harassment or abuse cases coming out of the woodwork yet",
">\n\nWould be great if we caught this stuff before the person won their election. Now the republicans will protect him no matter what because they know he’ll vote however they want to avoid losing his job.",
">\n\nShame all the investigative journalists that used to do that kind of thing, don't exist any longer. Billionaires gutting media companies has a trickle effect across society.",
">\n\nGosh, you'd think the elite liberal media would have used the full brunt of their liberal propaganda machine to broadcast these horrible slanders against a fearlessly honest Republican 24/7 all through election day! Why didn't they do that? 🤔",
">\n\nNo one claimed it was a competent elite liberal media...",
">\n\n\"8. The disciples of Fascism must feel humiliated by the enemy’s wealth and power, but feel nonetheless that they can defeat the enemy. The enemy is both too strong and too weak.\"\n--The 14 Signs of Fascism, Umberto Eco",
">\n\nHi friend, that reference actually comes from Ur Fascism (Eternal Fascism), an essay by Eco.\nThe 14 points are part of it tho. \nA scary and prescient part at that.\nHere's a link for anyone that is interested in reading, it's free!",
">\n\nHe steps down? He never should have been put on any committee in the first place. There should have been a vote for expulsion immediately after his lies were brought to light.\nIt just goes to show how corrupt the GOP has become.",
">\n\nThey put the lady who claimed that forest fires were being started by Jewish space lasers on a committee, while also saying that a bunch of Democrats were too radical to be on committees, because they investigated Donald Trump's wrongdoing.",
">\n\nShe’s started to (attempt to) rehab her image by saying things like “lol I got swept in up some online drama 😅”, as if the lack of critical thinking and judgment that led to getting “caught up” in that isn’t the core issue.",
">\n\n\"I thought it was just another party\"\n\"Really? You didn't notice the giant red flags?\"\n\"I don't know what you mean\"\n\"The Nazi Flags!\"\n\"I did notsee the flags, yes\"",
">\n\nThis quote is commonly used to describe individuals such as MTG, and it's wholly appropriate.\n\nNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.\n\n\nJean-Paul Sartre",
">\n\nI actually altered this a bit, as to not be so on the nose calling people antismetic, and this is more how the GOP and conservatives operate. \n\"Never believe that people without truth are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The distractors have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”\nFeel free to use it.",
">\n\n\nthey will abruptly fall silent, \n\nif only.",
">\n\nOh they do. Ask them questions and they call you names or my favorite, \"Look it up yourself, you need to do more research.\"",
">\n\nThat's not falling silent, that's moving goal posts, moving to ad hominem attacks, straight gaslighting, concoct tangential strawmen, engage in whataboutisms, etc. The last thing the do is actually fall silent. The worse their position becomes the louder they get. YMMV.",
">\n\nYou're not understanding. I'm saying when you confront them. In the moment. Not that they aren't a loud ass bunch. At some point they just say, I'm done arguing. Hence, fall silent. Also, look it up yourself is the phrase they use to say they are done arguing as well.",
">\n\nNot wanting to state the obvious, but when I apply for anything, especially a job, there is always a section that you have to agree that your application is truthful and accurate. If not, there is threats about legality issues.\nHow. Does. This. Guy. Still. Have. A. Job????????????????\nEdit to add something as there are a lot of people saying that he was not hired but was instead elected to represent a district. I look at it this way, if you were elected to serve the people, and you are getting a salary with a team of staffers, and office and including awesome healthcare, then by definition, that is a job. He was elected yes... but he is not doing it for free.",
">\n\nThis is the part that confuses the hell out of me. It's majority SoP in the US that most standard everyday job applicants (and definitely for federal employees) have a background check that includes verification of claimed degrees/licenses and prior employment. Sometimes that includes a credit check. Specific federal/govt positions that require security clearance are even more stringent. So how did someone seeking a position of power and influence that impacts so many people manage to attain a seat in Congress with no apparent background check?",
">\n\nThe answer I always get is that people vote them in, so if they weren't qualified, people wouldn't vote for them. Same with a criminal history. If people don't like their crimes, they won't vote for them. \nI think every prospective member of Congress and every presidential candidate and VP should be required to pass a background check.",
">\n\nSounds great.\nWho administers the background check? Presumably it would be law enforcement, right? The Executive branch?\nNow imagine Trump's administration running a background check on Biden during the 2020 general election and declaring him ineligible to run because spins wheel of reasons let's say Hunter Biden's laptop.\nAnd that leads him to win re-election.\nDoesn't sound so great any more.",
">\n\nI guess we should just give up then",
">\n\nOr redefine your proposal as something with an objective standard that can't be easily manipulated by a corrupt administration.",
">\n\nI don't think it's that complicated, or at least it shouldn't be. In this particular case (Santos), it would have taken minimal effort to simply confirm whether he held the graduate degrees he claimed, the former employment roles he claimed, and run a credit check. Small HR shops across the country do it on the regular. Maybe they can hire one of them to manage it.",
">\n\nIt's not that it's complicated, it's that it's rife for corruption. We go through the same thing with the proposals of tests for mental competency. If you enshrine into law a process whereby an incumbent can declare his challenger mentally unfit to be elected, or allow him to replace a member of the opposing faction, it's going to be abused. Think Trump declaring Kagan and Sotomayor mentally unsound and booting them off the Supreme Court. Or removing McCain in response to his vote to preserve the ACA, thus allowing Arizona to replace him with a compliant Senator who rubber-stamps Trump's legislation.",
">\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life. At the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience. This simple step might have raised the necessary red flags on Santos when there was still time to disqualify him as a candidate.",
">\n\n\nI think this confuses the standard candidate fact checking that's conducted based on resume claims (basic admin stuff) with a deep dive into other more subjective elements of an applicant's / candidate's life.\n\nIt's basic admin stuff for a private company because they're the ones in control of hiring. This is an election. The voters ultimately make the decision.\n\nAt the very minimum there should be confirmation that an individual hasn't lied about their degrees and former employment / professional experience.\n\nIf you sign this standard into law, you're begging for an August 2028 headline on the order of \"DeSantis Administration Finds Buttigieg Ineligible For Presidency\" on the grounds of not publicly declaring that he mowed lawns for his neighbors as a teenager.",
">\n\nInvestigate. <— we are here\nIndict. \nImprison.",
">\n\nYou skipped a step. Prolong investigation until sept / oct of '24. Then drop bombshell finding that slams.",
">\n\n....\nAnd then never actually have trump see the inside of a cell, courtroom, or face any actual consequences.",
">\n\nSantos needs to step down from Congress.",
">\n\n...and then go to jail.",
">\n\nWhite? Rich? Privileged? \n(not gonna happen...)",
">\n\nA CBS poll found that 78% of his/her constituents want him/her to resign.",
">\n\nIn a shocking twist, the remaining 22% turn out to be George Santos himself voting multiple times in the poll.",
">\n\nEach vote is filed under one of the 2mil pseudonyms this guy made up in his career.",
">\n\nI think this guy will end up fleeing the country. He's proof a foreign government can weaponize Citizen United to the extent they have their own member in the House. He is proof there are no safety nets left for democracy if Citizens United remains standing.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nHow many Scaramuccis was that?",
">\n\nAlways love the Mooches time scale",
">\n\nIf that’s his real name.",
">\n\nIt's actually Kitara Ravache.",
">\n\nHis first name is Lyle",
">\n\nLyle Detyme? I think I met him once.",
">\n\nWait, did he really step down or is he just claiming he stepped down? I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but sometimes there are these really subtle inconsistencies between what he says and what he does. You really have to look carefully, but sometimes theres this ever-so-slight “hint” of insincerity that is visible in just the right light.",
">\n\nIf he was a Democrat and this shit was uncovered, he would have been ousted in a week. Both parties are the same my ass.",
">\n\nThe fact that after all the lies, he was STILL appointed to committees (plural) at all shows that the Republicans are desperate and have nobody left with integrity in their party to legislate. \nNot sure if that's more sad or scary, but it should probably worry conservatives that they're being represented by a lying freshman under criminal investigation.",
">\n\nThe poster child of your Republican Party.",
">\n\nHis wife must be Morgan Fairchild.",
">\n\nYeah that’s the ticket!\nSpeaking of ticket, maybe he just needs more time for his VP run on the Trump ticket",
">\n\nThe fact that he got assignments in the first place is an indictment of Republicans(not that they care).",
">\n\nWhat? Comeuppance already? Not in 2023 surely. Well I'll be damned...",
">\n\nvlad putin called him up to lead the russian forces since he did such a great job of breaking the siege of leningrad.",
">\n\nGood, now he can focus on his cure for cancer.",
">\n\nIf George Santos cures cancer, does the whole GOP disappear?",
">\n\nNo, unfortunately 😔 We will probably need to deal with current scotus even longer than we might have with cures like that",
">\n\nOdds on him taking a vacation overseas and not coming back?",
">\n\nThe reverse Bolsonaro?",
">\n\nSounds dirty.",
">\n\nThe best part is Lovitz went on Fallon recently to play George Santos.",
">\n\n“Temporarily”\nSeriously though this dude committed federal crimes that could easily be proven in court. How is he not arrested yet?",
">\n\nHe just wants to spend more time wrestling sharks, commandeering the space shuttle, training for the Boston Marathon, and saving children from burning schools.",
">\n\n“We should leave it up to the voters”\nBitch, the voters were lied to on a massive scale and 71% of the REPUBLICAN voters want him to resign. Hold your own fucking party members accountable and throw this guy in the trash.",
">\n\nHe is making McCarthy look like an absolute fool and I am here for it",
">\n\nMcCarthy doesn’t need any help with that.",
">\n\nFor a minute there I thought he was stepping down from his position within the House of Representatives, not just the panels he was appointed to.",
">\n\nI wonder how many in the GOP had to look up the word 'Ethics'.\nI'm sure Boebert had to, not that it would mean anything to her.",
">\n\nBoebert thought people were talking about \"ethnics\"",
">\n\nMan, I wish there was a 2/3 majority who could decide if I got to keep my job after lying to get into it.",
">\n\nI worked for a company that had a panel of employees who would review terminations, when it was contested by the fired employee. It only took a minority to overturn the decision. In the years I was there, I wasn't aware of the panel ever overturning a termination and I was involved in a lot of durings for theft/fraud/ethics",
">\n\nHe is only stepping down to remove some ammunition from Dems who are being removed from committees for bogus nonsense.",
">\n\nA mysterious new member sporting a pair of spectacles was seen attending the panels in his place.",
">\n\nWhy was he even appointed to the panels in the first place? So idiotic. Geez, the bar is set so low now. I should be asking, why is he still in congress?",
">\n\nHahahahah. \nFire that nutjob.",
">\n\nHe did not step down. He was never actually appointed to any of the committees. Nuance is hard. But this is an important point.",
">\n\n“Santos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. “",
">\n\nThe 118th congress needs to vote on the committee assignments; which hadn’t happened before it was announced he would “step down” from the committees the GOP leadership planned to put him on (because of their majority). So at the time he “stepped down” he had nothing to step down from.",
">\n\nHe should've never been put on any panels to begin with. So ridiculous. At least he's making some better decisions than \"leader\" McCarthy, who made these choices knowing all this about Santos, or whoever he is, at the time.",
">\n\nDude is busy hammering out peace negotiations with Vlad and Zelensky. Get off his back, greatness takes patience.",
">\n\nPolitics in the United States is a complete fiasco, continuing shit show that never seems to get better.",
">\n\nIt can't actually get better when one of our two major political parties refuses to engage in literally anything with good faith, and bases their entire platform on contrarianism.",
">\n\nWhat platform? They didn't bother making one in 2020.",
">\n\nI mean, they did, they just didn't write it down. They demonstrated it through action, like going all in on being anti science and medicine during a pandemic, just so they could be opposite what democrats were doing.\nThe platform was \"Whatever they want, we want the opposite.\"",
">\n\nI sincerely doubt he \"stepped down\", but was rather stepped down by the GOP strategists who might be concerned that elevating a known liar and grifter to panels may reflect poorly on the party (admittittedly a very small chance of this since I really don't think anyone in the party cares about actions or optics). Either that or someone has big dirt on him and is forcing it. No way the dude is doing this of his own accord.",
">\n\nSnake Oil Salesmen and Carpetbaggers. GOP will make you a king. Trump proved it and now as the sharks say-there’s blood in the water",
">\n\nWe're still calling them \"issues\"? Come on, man.",
">\n\nThe first step is always the hardest, keep going to the door and we can redo the election",
">\n\nWell he wants more time so he can compete on the next season of rupauls drag rave",
">\n\nStep down another step or two santos.",
">\n\nUnironically, Santos is the source for the info. Thus, it cannot be believed.",
">\n\nEthics issue sure is a nice way to say rampant fraud allegations and damning evidence.",
">\n\n\".................................a move that comes amid a host of ethics issues and a day after he met with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.\"\nWhat does Kevin McCarthy know about ethics?",
">\n\nThe Republican race to the bottom, all to own the Libs",
">\n\nI’d bet a dollar that the disqualifying lie is right around the corner, they know about it already, and they are trying to get ahead of it",
">\n\nDid he say he stepped down? Has anyone confirmed it?",
">\n\nThe fact Santos was on an ethics panel is... astounding.",
">\n\nThis is a travesty! Who will lead NASA's manned mission to the surface of the sun now?? Shame on you, America.",
">\n\nIt was his idea to go at night, how can we replace such a man",
">\n\nI'm not a New Yorker, did the newspapers and TV stations not background check him?",
">\n\nHe doesn't want the WORK, he wants the pay and the pension.",
">\n\nI fucking hate his goddamned face",
">\n\nThe fact I show up to work late and get fired versus this clown lying to the nation for months and nothing shows how fucked the us government is.",
">\n\nThis guy has the brain of a middle schooler",
">\n\nIt's a shame that a five-time Heisman Trophy winner and the first man to visit Jupiter has to go through all this.",
">\n\nHow dare they treat a Vietnam war veteran and Nobel prize laureate like this.",
">\n\nI'm surprised he didn't burst into flames when he stepped into the committee chamber",
">\n\nYou think it's holy ground? Dude it's practically smelling of sulfur at this point",
">\n\nCan I get an odds check on him being removed, only to then be replaced with someone eerily similar looking, aside from the comedy glasses/nose/mustache combo",
">\n\nStepping down before the DOJ investigation makes it anymore of an embarrassment for the GOP. How could he even be granted a basic security clearance?",
">\n\nThe fact that he was even named to any panels is indication enough that the GOP considers this a nothingburger and is just waiting for everyone to move on. Which we will. Accountability isn't a thing anymore.",
">\n\nHe's not stepping down, he's just not doing the work on those committees but still getting pay and benefits.",
">\n\nHe's not even really stepping down. This is only temporary...",
">\n\n\nSantos was assigned to two fairly low-profile panels, the House Committee on Small Business and to the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.\n\nMakes me sad the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is “low profile.”",
">\n\nThis guy ruined the sweater with a suit combo.",
">\n\nNooooooo. He’s fucking hilarious lmao",
">\n\nI'm actually surprised that we don't see more scammers sue him for all kinds of stuff... You know those scammers that like to pretend they got hurt at Walmart... All they have to do is sue him for something and even if he denied it... All they have to say is \"well that's what a liar would say and we all know you're a liar\"",
">\n\nDid he actually step down or is he lying about that too?",
">\n\nIs he going prematurely gray from the stress of being a total fraud?",
">\n\nTemporarily steps down? Temporarily? What the fuck is happening?",
">\n\nSo he's saying that he wants to focus on serving his constituents yet no one ever even answers the phone if you try calling his congressional office on Long Island",
">\n\nHe claims now everything will be above board. Something tells me that is a lie.",
">\n\nHe still not resigning.",
">\n\nTemporarily stepping down = McCarthy wants to kick Ilhan Omar off of committees but knows he will get blow-back if Santos is seated. Never think the current GOP will take the high road or accept blame, this is just a deflection tactic and the media (and voters) keep falling for it.",
">\n\nLet’s see HIS fucking birth certificate!",
">\n\nSure hope he’s on a no fly list. I just have this feeling he’s about to assume a new identity in Switzerland.",
">\n\nHe's gonna hang on to that paycheck as long as humanly possible.",
">\n\nI can’t believe a former president would step down from their committee assignments like this",
">\n\nGood thing the Republicans undermined the ethics panel as first order of business. How you like them ethics?",
">\n\nSo he’ll stay in Congress, collect paycheck, entitled to all the benefits, probably get a pension and won’t even do any work?\nMake him do some work for the money he’s mooching from all of us!",
">\n\nThe man needs to take a long walk off a short pier. This human trash has been conning people and stealing since before he was an adult. Now he's a waste of air.",
">\n\nMcCarthy tells santos to step down from committees until this blows over because he doesn’t want to have to do anything to punish this guy.",
">\n\nKeep stepping, George or whatever your name is.",
">\n\nIf this happened in corporate America, he’s be out of a job so fast. The fact that we have to encourage him to resign instead of just firing his ass blows my goddamn mind",
">\n\nThanks to MTG's big mouth, (shocking that she's this stupid /s) we know that Santos only stepped down so that the Republicans could get the votes to remove Omar from her committee.",
">\n\nCan’t believe these jagaloons get voted in. Better yet why run if you know your a gigantic fraud? I get it I get it, there are others but this one might be the most brazen yet! Right? Right?!"
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