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[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already...." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. All praise to Jesus" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. All praise to Jesus", ">\n\nSo what he couldn’t improve himself in that time?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. All praise to Jesus", ">\n\nSo what he couldn’t improve himself in that time?", ">\n\n3.5 years that’s long time is sober now?" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. All praise to Jesus", ">\n\nSo what he couldn’t improve himself in that time?", ">\n\n3.5 years that’s long time is sober now?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. If so, good for him (and the rest of us). We all deserve another chance." ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. All praise to Jesus", ">\n\nSo what he couldn’t improve himself in that time?", ">\n\n3.5 years that’s long time is sober now?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. If so, good for him (and the rest of us). We all deserve another chance.", ">\n\nI hope he got promoted to a desk job" ]

[ "They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.", ">\n\nProbably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him.", ">\n\nIt’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out.", ">\n\nLook how many people are happy you got away with DUI because a nurse mishandled evidence. Hopefully this is just another fake cop hate story.\nRemember reddit, driving high is still impaired driving. And impaired drivers kill people every day.", ">\n\nPossession =! Intoxication. \nRemember reading comprehension can keep you from looking like a moron.", ">\n\nDo you think his car got towed and he had to get a blood draw because he's being charged with possession. Or do you think his car got towed and he's getting a blood draw because he got charged with OWI and didn't have alcohol in his system?\nTry thinking about it for more than 2 seconds.", ">\n\nWell I’ll just tell you that it was Oklahoma and they did all that for possession.", ">\n\nYour possession charge was thrown out because you didn't get a blood draw? The state couldn't prove you had marijuana on you without blood? Yeah this doesn't make any sense.", ">\n\nIdk. Just sharing what happened.", ">\n\n\" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer.\"\nWait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system", ">\n\nand they think they are underpaid\nand that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime.", ">\n\nI think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do. Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency. Modern day knights-errant\nI just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen.", ">\n\nthe cops in my town sometime help people out\nand sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards", ">\n\nso did capone's guys", ">\n\nI remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out", ">\n\nI believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so.", ">\n\nShe was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show.", ">\n\nUgh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. \nRemember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car.", ">\n\nHey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion.", ">\n\nLiterally passed out in a running car... \nImagine what a normal person would get for that.", ">\n\nWell in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not.", ">\n\nI know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI. But they were not in Indiana.", ">\n\nThere's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol. The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi. Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi.", ">\n\nBy that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi.", ">\n\nAgreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more \"justice\" being served I guess.", ">\n\nI mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. \nIt’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \nI’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime. I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\n\nBut we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. \n\nHonestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in \"catching the bad guy\" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering.", ">\n\nYes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly.", ">\n\nI’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ??", ">\n\nYa gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity.", ">\n\nNot even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident.", ">\n\nThe “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car.", ">\n\nPeople in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police.", ">\n\nTbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act. Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk? The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table?", ">\n\nHe should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.\nAlso, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences.", ">\n\nIt’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people.", ">\n\nSure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'.", ">\n\nIf a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later.", ">\n\nIt was a normal everyday person, That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.\nThe cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce. This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement.", ">\n\nIMO - If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue. The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it. If they didn't supported There would be protests. The cops are doing it because they can get away with it.", ">\n\nFor real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors.", ">\n\nYes, I agree with you. If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.\nIn most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety. Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor. If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's office. Propose a recall. Do not vote for the mayor. I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen.", ">\n\n“Aurora’s Mediocorerst”", ">\n\nMediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops.", ">\n\nA friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy..", ">\n\nWhat was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho", ">\n\nSitting?\nThough cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat.", ">\n\nLike churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap.", ">\n\nThey didn't bother to cover up, or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything.", ">\n\nAll fair points.", ">\n\nIt's called Failing upwards", ">\n\nYou get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases.", ">\n\n\nAurora PD\n\nthe fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck. just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday.", ">\n\nI can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. \nBut those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion", ">\n\nRules for thee but not for me", ">\n\nA barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB. American police get promoted for it.\nNothing makes sense.", ">\n\nAnd police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”.", ">\n\nMeier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. \nSo he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it.", ">\n\nNow he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that.", ">\n\nI've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is.", ">\n\nCan’t keep a shitty cop down….", ">\n\nIts amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people.", ">\n\nOF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston.", ">\n\nWhat is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates?", ">\n\nOur best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust", ">\n\nSo my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.\nHe got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired???", ">\n\nbecause this dude probably has something on someone in power.", ">\n\nYeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability.", ">\n\nIf I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.\nRidiculous corruption.", ">\n\nwhat the hell is going on with colorado cops?", ">\n\nI’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted?", ">\n\nThe good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches.", ">\n\nStill waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already....", ">\n\nThat’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…\n“Fuck the police” — NWA", ">\n\nWow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then.", ">\n\nWhen I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs. That place is a mess.", ">\n\nAnd here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop.", ">\n\nNothing stopping you.", ">\n\nRandy… I AM the liquor.", ">\n\n\nInterim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, \"I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation.\"\n\nFired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job\nMiami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job\nChief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay", ">\n\nWhen I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all.", ">\n\nThe Peter Principle is broken.", ">\n\nDamn. I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years!", ">\n\nPretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil??", ">\n\nMoral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed.", ">\n\nThis is so disappointing.", ">\n\nYou, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite?", ">\n\nbut the good cops, they should change this right?", ">\n\nThey are implying it was a suicide attempt. He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service.", ">\n\nThe police are just another gang. One with the law on their side.", ">\n\nRight, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense.", ">\n\nThe internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up", ">\n\nNo it’s not. \nYou can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.\nDoesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.”", ">\n\nwow, i could be a cop", ">\n\nHa that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor!", ">\n\nHere's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.\nSo he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.\nIf he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.\nThis cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest.", ">\n\nIt took 'em long enough", ">\n\nThey need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch.", ">\n\nSo next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a \"Medical Emergency\" ? \nWhat a crock of corrupt shit.", ">\n\nAs a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. \nTHIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!\nCONTACT THE GOVERNOR!\nConstituent Services Help Line: (303) 866-2885\nGovernor's Office, Front Desk: (303) 866-2471\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 136\nDenver, CO 80203\nEmail the Governor: [email protected]\nCONTACT THE LT. GOVERNOR\nLt. Governor Office Phone: (303) 866-4075\nState Capitol Building\n200 E. Colfax Ave., Rm. 130\nDenver, CO 80203\nFUCK THE POLICE\nAURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!\nAurora Mayor Mike CoffmanMayor\n303.739.7015 (council office)\[email protected]\nMeet with Mayor Mike Town Meetings\nSaturday, January 28, 2:00 - 3:30 p.m.\nCentral Library, 14949 E. Alameda Parkway\nYou bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me.", ">\n\n\nThis state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. \n\nThat’s just not true for a first offense.\nAverage sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.\nThe fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. \nIt’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh.", ">\n\nYou are talking out your ass. \nIt is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac. \nMADD seminar \nDepending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. \nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. \nThen there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. \nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month. If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. \nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\nPlus court costs and fines usually around $2500 \nIf you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000\nEdit\nThis is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.\nEdit 2\nOh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost. Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.\nEdit 3\nForgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50\nAlso, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class. When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked.", ">\n\n\nYou are talking out your ass.\n\nBitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.\nNone of that is true on a first offense.\nIf it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.\n\nand if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)\n\nThe DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.\n\nMinimum one year probation at minimum bac.\n\nMentioned that\n\nMADD seminar\n\nMentioned that\n\nNext is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week. Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.\n\nYeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? \nI’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. \n\nThen there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. \n\nInterlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.\nIt’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.\n\nIf any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.\n\nIf any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance.", ">\n\nWow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts?", ">\n\nHe must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away.", ">\n\nJustice for thee, not for me.", ">\n\nAt least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place?", ">\n\nI got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.\n\"Rules for thee, but not for me.\"", ">\n\nI know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. \nIt's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. \nIf he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny.", ">\n\n\nbut people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.\n\nexcept for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged\nand this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it", ">\n\nExpungement is available for this exact reason.", ">\n\nThat's an insane suggestion.", ">\n\nThis is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?!", ">\n\nPeople can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here.", ">\n\nMaybe he cleaned his ass up and is a tea totaller? \nIf he had gotten a promotion a few months after his drunkeness on duty.. ok then I'd be pissed. Or if he constantly got in trouble year after year. \nAnd I am pretty hard on cops.", ">\n\nOr maybe he's an even bigger piece of shit than before. I guess we'll never know because there's no accountability.", ">\n\nMaybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue. What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?\nWhile in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed. There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers. Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.\nOutside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone. \nTl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.", ">\n\nCops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.", ">\n\nsadly they’re generally held to none.", ">\n\nwell duh, they are the law", ">\n\nFk the negativity, if he’s turned himself around and is doing a good job now he can have the promotion", ">\n\nShows the power of the police, and probably their union.\nIf I'm slumped over at my desk at work, smelling of alcohol, and need paramedics to take me to the hospital, I'll be rightfully terminated from my position. It doesn't matter what criminal charges I face. He does it, and because he was never charged or prosecuted, he's promoted a few years later.\nIt is great that he's \"turned himself around,\" but he shouldn't be wearing a badge - certainly not with a pay raise and promotion.", ">\n\nWe have a very similar story going on currently in MN. Any other states care to raise their hand.", ">\n\nWhat a terrible world we’ve created", ">\n\nWow, wrong on so many levels 🤮", ">\n\nGreat for him! The system is system.", ">\n\nHe was just sleepy. Cmon quit jumping to conclusions. \nOfficer did you have anything to drink this evening?\nI had all the drinks…", ">\n\n\nThey failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated.\n\nThis is the problem, not being promoted three and a half years later. If he got his life together, took whatever punishment was dished out and returned to his job sober and competent.. ok, promote the dude if he's doing a good job.", ">\n\nDude turned his life around and used it as a lesson for other cops he deserves the promotion if anything.", ">\n\nMaybe is recovered now. Got treatment, taking Antabuse, attending therapy.", ">\n\nWhat is wrong with the police? This is wrong with the police.", ">\n\nAnd they wonder why people distrust/dislike cops.", ">\n\nIf you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol", ">\n\nNo one fucking cares. Not even him.", ">\n\nAurora is such a shit hole though", ">\n\nI get all the cop hate in the comments section, but 3 1/2 years is plenty of time to get your act together. Isnt it possible that he was at a low point when he got caught in the car and was able to clean up his act enough to promote years later? I mean shit on cops for being murderers and thugs all day, but it really seems like a stretch to use this as an example of rot.", ">\n\nWhy are we hiring cops that find themselves at such a low point they are able to get drunk behind the wheel and pass out? If he didn't pass out, what if he's able to drive the car that drunk and kills 2 families in the middle of the day because he couldn't handle his emotions as an officer of the law? Why is that anywhere near the stratosphere of acceptable for the people who protect and serve?", ">\n\nObviously he wasnt HIRED with those issues. Cops deal with all sorts of shit its not just traffic stops. Any time anyone dies the police have to show up. Cops see all sorts of shit that fucks them up. Yea we need to end the whole “murdering with impunity” shit but this dude hit rock bottom. Theres plenty of shit to get up in arms about when it comes to the police but this aint it.", ">\n\nAlright cool so cops should be allowed to drive while under the influence on the clock because they have witnessed traumatic events. That's an interesting proposal. If I \"hit rock bottom\", am I allowed to drive drunk on the interstate or do I need to get a badge first?", ">\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. Hope the best for him", ">\n\n\nPeople shitting on him but it sounds like he got his life squared away and has been doing a good job. \n\nAnyone who wasn't a cop woulda caught a charge.", ">\n\nThats the thing though, this is 3 1/2 years later. People arent upset because he got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist, people are upset because he got promoted over 3 years later. Its just silly misdirected anger. As rotten as the policing institution is, 3.5 years sounds like plenty of time to clean up your act. I see no problem with this aside from the fact that he got off from the DUI in the first place.", ">\n\n\nhe got away with a DUI with a slap on the wrist\n\nWhat slap on the wrist? He didn't even get that. \n\nBut Meier was never arrested or charged with DUI, as command officers deemed it a medical situation. Meier's blood alcohol level was more than five times the legal limit for DUI and he admitted to drinking to the point of impairment.\n\nHe got special treatment.\nWe only have his word that he's not drinking anymore. And since he never faced any repercussions for his actions, and his friends at work will cut him a break... does he have a lot of impteus to quit drinking? Or just hide it from the public better?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. All praise to Jesus", ">\n\nSo what he couldn’t improve himself in that time?", ">\n\n3.5 years that’s long time is sober now?", ">\n\nSounds like he turned his life around. If so, good for him (and the rest of us). We all deserve another chance.", ">\n\nI hope he got promoted to a desk job", ">\n\nCongrat Meier ! Promotion and front page of Reddit !" ]

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[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s" ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"" ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”" ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\"." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing.", ">\n\nIt would end that problem, but create a whole new one. But you know, the people that think it is a real solution also forget that most actions have repercussions." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing.", ">\n\nIt would end that problem, but create a whole new one. But you know, the people that think it is a real solution also forget that most actions have repercussions.", ">\n\nIt wouldn’t end the problem of terrorism, it would create more terrorists. As well as probably triggering completely legitimate military action against the US. \nThere are multiple things that prevent a single deranged idiot from launching nukes, but if it did happen, I’m confident the USA would get the shit kicked out of it, either militarily or economically." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing.", ">\n\nIt would end that problem, but create a whole new one. But you know, the people that think it is a real solution also forget that most actions have repercussions.", ">\n\nIt wouldn’t end the problem of terrorism, it would create more terrorists. As well as probably triggering completely legitimate military action against the US. \nThere are multiple things that prevent a single deranged idiot from launching nukes, but if it did happen, I’m confident the USA would get the shit kicked out of it, either militarily or economically.", ">\n\nIt's the Jason Mendoza approach. \n\"Any time I had a problem and I threw a Molotov cocktail at it... BOOM! Right away, I had a different problem.\"" ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing.", ">\n\nIt would end that problem, but create a whole new one. But you know, the people that think it is a real solution also forget that most actions have repercussions.", ">\n\nIt wouldn’t end the problem of terrorism, it would create more terrorists. As well as probably triggering completely legitimate military action against the US. \nThere are multiple things that prevent a single deranged idiot from launching nukes, but if it did happen, I’m confident the USA would get the shit kicked out of it, either militarily or economically.", ">\n\nIt's the Jason Mendoza approach. \n\"Any time I had a problem and I threw a Molotov cocktail at it... BOOM! Right away, I had a different problem.\"", ">\n\nJust like he said to paint U.S. jets like a Chinese one so they could attack Russia with impunity. If this guy ever had to stop a roadrunner you can envision him calling up Acme Co. to get an anvil and some rope." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing.", ">\n\nIt would end that problem, but create a whole new one. But you know, the people that think it is a real solution also forget that most actions have repercussions.", ">\n\nIt wouldn’t end the problem of terrorism, it would create more terrorists. As well as probably triggering completely legitimate military action against the US. \nThere are multiple things that prevent a single deranged idiot from launching nukes, but if it did happen, I’m confident the USA would get the shit kicked out of it, either militarily or economically.", ">\n\nIt's the Jason Mendoza approach. \n\"Any time I had a problem and I threw a Molotov cocktail at it... BOOM! Right away, I had a different problem.\"", ">\n\nJust like he said to paint U.S. jets like a Chinese one so they could attack Russia with impunity. If this guy ever had to stop a roadrunner you can envision him calling up Acme Co. to get an anvil and some rope.", ">\n\n\npaint U.S. jets like a Chinese one so they could attack Russia with impunity.\n\nRussia did that with North Korea actually during the Korean War. MiG-15's painted to look Chinese/North Korean despite being piloted by Soviet airmen." ]

[ "Turns out having a narcissistic sociopath for a president isn't all that it's cracked up to be.", ">\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s", ">\n\n\nYeah but I like him because he’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind! /s\n\n\"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.\"", ">\n\nThat pretty much sums it up.", ">\n\nI’m a bit shocked he didn’t shout, “squirrel”", ">\n\nHe REALLY wanted to use nukes. I remain convinced his \"plan to end end terrorism in 90 days it's so simple but I won't tell you now\" from before the 2016 election was \"nuke them\".", ">\n\nI know enough people who said that the solution to the Middle East problem was to turn it into a smoldering crater, so I have 0 doubt that Trump probably thought the same thing.", ">\n\nIt would end that problem, but create a whole new one. But you know, the people that think it is a real solution also forget that most actions have repercussions.", ">\n\nIt wouldn’t end the problem of terrorism, it would create more terrorists. As well as probably triggering completely legitimate military action against the US. \nThere are multiple things that prevent a single deranged idiot from launching nukes, but if it did happen, I’m confident the USA would get the shit kicked out of it, either militarily or economically.", ">\n\nIt's the Jason Mendoza approach. \n\"Any time I had a problem and I threw a Molotov cocktail at it... BOOM! Right away, I had a different problem.\"", ">\n\nJust like he said to paint U.S. jets like a Chinese one so they could attack Russia with impunity. If this guy ever had to stop a roadrunner you can envision him calling up Acme Co. to get an anvil and some rope.", ">\n\n\npaint U.S. jets like a Chinese one so they could attack Russia with impunity.\n\nRussia did that with North Korea actually during the Korean War. MiG-15's painted to look Chinese/North Korean despite being piloted by Soviet airmen.", ">\n\nBut in the case of the Flying Tigers, it was done in cooperation with China." ]