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[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov..." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return..." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words." ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words.", ">\n\nRussians are terrorists" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words.", ">\n\nRussians are terrorists", ">\n\nNot great but not terrible" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words.", ">\n\nRussians are terrorists", ">\n\nNot great but not terrible", ">\n\nget the good dosimeter from the safe" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words.", ">\n\nRussians are terrorists", ">\n\nNot great but not terrible", ">\n\nget the good dosimeter from the safe", ">\n\n>pravda.com.ua" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words.", ">\n\nRussians are terrorists", ">\n\nNot great but not terrible", ">\n\nget the good dosimeter from the safe", ">\n\n>pravda.com.ua", ">\n\nYeah, being invaded by Russia means there's a clear conflict of interest for everything Ukraine says! /s" ]

[ "Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩.", ">\n\nWhy? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.\n/s", ">\n\nSuch wind; much proжimity", ">\n\nRussia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.\nAnd this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster.", ">\n\nPutin's playing with nuclear fire.", ">\n\nAt some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face.", ">\n\nIf NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. \nWe weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now). \nSo let's hope it doesn't come to that.", ">\n\nI understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.\nEven a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.\n(Massive edit 8 hours later)", ">\n\ni live in a capital, wont notice a thing.", ">\n\nA year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them.", ">\n\nEven a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area.", ">\n\nstop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army.", ">\n\n\"We have captured Chernobyl! Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!\"", ">\n\nThese barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night!", ">\n\nThey can also be used to keep our food warm!", ">\n\nWhat a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place.", ">\n\n\"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!\" \n-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window", ">\n\nPretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point?", ">\n\nNah. They are just \"deporting\" them into a new country.", ">\n\nWhich is specifically also a war crime.", ">\n\nWar crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently.", ">\n\nLol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.\nAlso coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier.", ">\n\nI don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here).", ">\n\nYes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. \nEither they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.\nI'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me.", ">\n\nI think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. \nRussia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.\nQuote: \"Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to\"convince\" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.\nThe Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5", ">\n\nyou didn't see graphite!!\nit's just missile debris\nBACK TO WORK!\n​\ni know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....\nanymore than they have done thus far.", ">\n\nUgh, its a good reference.", ">\n\nMan they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now", ">\n\nChapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to", ">\n\nSo now Russia is taking slaves?", ">\n\nThat's not really a new thing.", ">\n\nI'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this? I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign. I understand not all tasks are the same but even so.", ">\n\nRussia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird.", ">\n\nAnd many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors.", ">\n\nRussia just need to disappear", ">\n\nMy grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-;", ">\n\nThis finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers.", ">\n\n“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of …", ">\n\ndefenestration?", ">\n\nThey already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover.", ">\n\nProving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do.", ">\n\nDo you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do?", ">\n\nBecause a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region.", ">\n\nNo, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.", ">\n\n\nthere’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. \n\nYou are literally describing the present Russian government.", ">\n\nYet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine", ">\n\nI'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal.", ">\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang!", ">\n\n\nIntentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.\n\nIt isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place.", ">\n\nSokolov...", ">\n\nFor so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For.", ">\n\nRussia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu?", ">\n\nThis thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power", ">\n\n...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it", ">\n\nI only recently learned about the Demon Core.\nNope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me.", ">\n\nThat whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.\nNo shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks", ">\n\nAnd a flathead screwdriver!", ">\n\nJust trying to go boom.", ">\n\nChernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure", ">\n\nSwigs 2 shots of Vodka\n\n\nHey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.\n\n\nVlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!\n\n\nЗаткнись, блять! Russia forever!", ">\n\nI’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs?", ">\n\nTom Cruise can save them.", ">\n\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?\"\nEngineers: \"Hmm?\"\nRussians: \"We've searched the — Okay.\"", ">\n\nWhy does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game?", ">\n\nPutin needs a lobotomy", ">\n\nBecause he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers.", ">\n\nWar crime.", ">\n\nOh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep", ">\n\nI’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant?", ">\n\nCo-operation = do what they tell you, and in return...", ">\n\nu/fennius", ">\n\nTerrorist state = Russia", ">\n\nSend in Jack Ryan", ">\n\nThe Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.", ">\n\nWhich direction does the wind blow ? As usual Putin will fuck this up. Then what ?", ">\n\nThis is one way to have a Shinto intervention. #fuck you Shima.", ">\n\nI don't think people realize that today's people aren't built like 1980’s people. Back then people kinda gave a fuck. Today's people will be like, \"it's just a little flUV... Only a 10% chance of dying. Don't be a sheep\" ... Mark my words.", ">\n\nRussians are terrorists", ">\n\nNot great but not terrible", ">\n\nget the good dosimeter from the safe", ">\n\n>pravda.com.ua", ">\n\nYeah, being invaded by Russia means there's a clear conflict of interest for everything Ukraine says! /s", ">\n\nBut can you really name the dozens of examples or are you just parroting Russian propaganda?" ]

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[ "I live in America. What's a \"pension\"?" ]

[ "I live in America. What's a \"pension\"?", ">\n\nIt's the thing that the CEO raids when his bonus is under 150x what the average employee in his company makes." ]

[ "I live in America. What's a \"pension\"?", ">\n\nIt's the thing that the CEO raids when his bonus is under 150x what the average employee in his company makes.", ">\n\nAt this point I don't think I will ever reach pension because governments around the world increase age at which one is allowed to retire or isn't heavily penalized." ]

[ "I live in America. What's a \"pension\"?", ">\n\nIt's the thing that the CEO raids when his bonus is under 150x what the average employee in his company makes.", ">\n\nAt this point I don't think I will ever reach pension because governments around the world increase age at which one is allowed to retire or isn't heavily penalized.", ">\n\nwell it's easier to take 2 years to 68M people than 2% to 109 billionaires, so.." ]

[ "I live in America. What's a \"pension\"?", ">\n\nIt's the thing that the CEO raids when his bonus is under 150x what the average employee in his company makes.", ">\n\nAt this point I don't think I will ever reach pension because governments around the world increase age at which one is allowed to retire or isn't heavily penalized.", ">\n\nwell it's easier to take 2 years to 68M people than 2% to 109 billionaires, so..", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 59%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nPeople took to the streets for a third day of strikes Tuesday against government plans to reform the pension system, of which a proposal to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 is among the most controversial.\nFrench President Emmanuel Macron insists the proposed changes are needed to reform a moribund system - but some of the government's own experts have said the pension system is in relatively good shape and would likely eventually return to a balanced budget even without reforms.\nThe multi-sector walkouts came a day after parliament began debating the controversial pension reform legislation, which will likely be a test of Macron's ability to affect change without a working majority in the National Assembly.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: day^#1 People^#2 reform^#3 out^#4 streets^#5" ]

[ "I live in America. What's a \"pension\"?", ">\n\nIt's the thing that the CEO raids when his bonus is under 150x what the average employee in his company makes.", ">\n\nAt this point I don't think I will ever reach pension because governments around the world increase age at which one is allowed to retire or isn't heavily penalized.", ">\n\nwell it's easier to take 2 years to 68M people than 2% to 109 billionaires, so..", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 59%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nPeople took to the streets for a third day of strikes Tuesday against government plans to reform the pension system, of which a proposal to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 is among the most controversial.\nFrench President Emmanuel Macron insists the proposed changes are needed to reform a moribund system - but some of the government's own experts have said the pension system is in relatively good shape and would likely eventually return to a balanced budget even without reforms.\nThe multi-sector walkouts came a day after parliament began debating the controversial pension reform legislation, which will likely be a test of Macron's ability to affect change without a working majority in the National Assembly.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: day^#1 People^#2 reform^#3 out^#4 streets^#5", ">\n\nIf more countries protested like the French the world would be a better place" ]

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[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"" ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs." ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to." ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases." ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases.", ">\n\nWhats the solution to the problem of overpopulation? Cullings?" ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases.", ">\n\nWhats the solution to the problem of overpopulation? Cullings?", ">\n\nFree birth control globally for starters" ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases.", ">\n\nWhats the solution to the problem of overpopulation? Cullings?", ">\n\nFree birth control globally for starters", ">\n\nYes and.... \nActual sex education everywhere with all birth control options and PiV alternatives presented. Full consequences of child birth and rearing presented in a comprehensive manner. Religion be damned. \nEnd to child marriage. \nIncreased equality for women so that they have agency, education and opportunities. They are not property and have a the ability to may and educated decision about their on reproductive lives.\nAbortion is healthcare and all people have access to affordable quality Healthcare. \nWork to eliminate the poverty cycle. \nQuality elder care and welfare should be guaranteed so that parents do not have children as their own personal safety net." ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases.", ">\n\nWhats the solution to the problem of overpopulation? Cullings?", ">\n\nFree birth control globally for starters", ">\n\nYes and.... \nActual sex education everywhere with all birth control options and PiV alternatives presented. Full consequences of child birth and rearing presented in a comprehensive manner. Religion be damned. \nEnd to child marriage. \nIncreased equality for women so that they have agency, education and opportunities. They are not property and have a the ability to may and educated decision about their on reproductive lives.\nAbortion is healthcare and all people have access to affordable quality Healthcare. \nWork to eliminate the poverty cycle. \nQuality elder care and welfare should be guaranteed so that parents do not have children as their own personal safety net.", ">\n\nDeregulate adoption" ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases.", ">\n\nWhats the solution to the problem of overpopulation? Cullings?", ">\n\nFree birth control globally for starters", ">\n\nYes and.... \nActual sex education everywhere with all birth control options and PiV alternatives presented. Full consequences of child birth and rearing presented in a comprehensive manner. Religion be damned. \nEnd to child marriage. \nIncreased equality for women so that they have agency, education and opportunities. They are not property and have a the ability to may and educated decision about their on reproductive lives.\nAbortion is healthcare and all people have access to affordable quality Healthcare. \nWork to eliminate the poverty cycle. \nQuality elder care and welfare should be guaranteed so that parents do not have children as their own personal safety net.", ">\n\nDeregulate adoption", ">\n\nIs it overregulated now, yes. Should all regulation be removed no. \nSo reduce regulation and increase follow up and and research, and again get religion the hell out of it. \nHowever, when you decrease the birth rate through education and alternative opportunities, the amount of children needing adoption decreases as well." ]

[ "\"Farmers say more than 340 sheep were killed in 2021 by a Swedish wolf population estimated at about 460. The predators, which in the 1960s were thought to be extinct in Sweden, are also resented by hunters, who say the dogs they use to track and drive deer and elk are regularly attacked.\"\n\"However, the scale of this year’s planned cull – only 203 wolves have been shot in total in Sweden in the 12 years since authorised hunting resumed – has alarmed conservationists.\"", ">\n\n340 sheep for 460 wolves sounds either like a load of bullshit (and they've got a feral dog problem) or like they are crowding wolves with completely unguarded livestock.\nLike, yeah, they are going to take sheep after sheep if you can't even put up an electric fence and use dogs.", ">\n\nSweden doesn’t have a feral dog problem. Quite the opposite. Wolf get in to fenced sheep herds and kill every single one in the herd. Wolfs don’t take one and leave. They kill all they can get to.", ">\n\nNot going to lie; your Username makes me... less likely to believe you due to biases.", ">\n\nWhats the solution to the problem of overpopulation? Cullings?", ">\n\nFree birth control globally for starters", ">\n\nYes and.... \nActual sex education everywhere with all birth control options and PiV alternatives presented. Full consequences of child birth and rearing presented in a comprehensive manner. Religion be damned. \nEnd to child marriage. \nIncreased equality for women so that they have agency, education and opportunities. They are not property and have a the ability to may and educated decision about their on reproductive lives.\nAbortion is healthcare and all people have access to affordable quality Healthcare. \nWork to eliminate the poverty cycle. \nQuality elder care and welfare should be guaranteed so that parents do not have children as their own personal safety net.", ">\n\nDeregulate adoption", ">\n\nIs it overregulated now, yes. Should all regulation be removed no. \nSo reduce regulation and increase follow up and and research, and again get religion the hell out of it. \nHowever, when you decrease the birth rate through education and alternative opportunities, the amount of children needing adoption decreases as well.", ">\n\nLargest ever cull so far..." ]

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[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen" ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”" ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”" ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars.", ">\n\nMarvel fan detected" ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars.", ">\n\nMarvel fan detected", ">\n\nStar Wars is one of the few movies that had no credits at the beginning, and I believe that’s what got George Lucas kicked out of the directors guild. As a result, he couldn’t use directors who were in that guild for Return of the Jedi, which is why he settled on Richard Marquand." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars.", ">\n\nMarvel fan detected", ">\n\nStar Wars is one of the few movies that had no credits at the beginning, and I believe that’s what got George Lucas kicked out of the directors guild. As a result, he couldn’t use directors who were in that guild for Return of the Jedi, which is why he settled on Richard Marquand.", ">\n\nOne of the best things about end credits is the music they play over them. Sure, an overture at the beginning with credits is nice, but the music at the end can really help you decompress after a good movie." ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars.", ">\n\nMarvel fan detected", ">\n\nStar Wars is one of the few movies that had no credits at the beginning, and I believe that’s what got George Lucas kicked out of the directors guild. As a result, he couldn’t use directors who were in that guild for Return of the Jedi, which is why he settled on Richard Marquand.", ">\n\nOne of the best things about end credits is the music they play over them. Sure, an overture at the beginning with credits is nice, but the music at the end can really help you decompress after a good movie.", ">\n\nJust watched Tar with Blanchett. They did this. Terrible movie, terrible idea. Pissed me off just out of principle. I understand I’m over doing it. I don’t care. I don’t want 5 minutes of credits before the movie" ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars.", ">\n\nMarvel fan detected", ">\n\nStar Wars is one of the few movies that had no credits at the beginning, and I believe that’s what got George Lucas kicked out of the directors guild. As a result, he couldn’t use directors who were in that guild for Return of the Jedi, which is why he settled on Richard Marquand.", ">\n\nOne of the best things about end credits is the music they play over them. Sure, an overture at the beginning with credits is nice, but the music at the end can really help you decompress after a good movie.", ">\n\nJust watched Tar with Blanchett. They did this. Terrible movie, terrible idea. Pissed me off just out of principle. I understand I’m over doing it. I don’t care. I don’t want 5 minutes of credits before the movie", ">\n\nI saw that too. What bothered me is they ended up putting the same credits at the end anyway. What was the point?" ]

[ "I feel like there could be spoilers in some credits. Also I’d rather not sit and watch the names of every single person that has had any sort of influence on the movie, which is why I (and a lot of other people) leave when the credits start. \nI also disagree with them being anticlimactic. I feel like the credits can be powerful after a really good movie. You just sit there and take in the move you’ve just seen", ">\n\n“Starring Christopher Walken as “‘The Janitor who was Secretly the Killer All Along’”", ">\n\nCredits in the older movies were just the actors, directors and the music producer. At least with the current style everyone gets credit.", ">\n\nI find the beginning of movies where they just list names for five minutes so boring. At least when they are shown afterwards, I can decide “do I want to know who did what, or do I want to leave?”", ">\n\nOlder movie credits used to be about 10 people. There is literally no way you formed this opinion without noticing that.", ">\n\nThat doesn't change my point. My opinion has nothing to do with how long the credits are.", ">\n\nYeah but it's sort of a fatal flaw in it. Nobody, not even you, wants to sit through 5+ minutes of credits before the movie starts.", ">\n\nIf people are willing to sit through 20 minutes of trailers, I can imagine they'd be willing to sit through 5 minutes of credits.\nRegardless, if people are sitting through credits at the end anyway (which is the norm now in most comedies or comic book movies), it comes out to the same amount of time in your seat. Personally, I'd prefer that time spent at the beginning.", ">\n\nAs someone who has been in the credits of several movies and plays a vital role in the creation of them - this is a terrible idea.", ">\n\nI strongly disagree because of potential spoilers!\nImagine you know that a famous actor will be in the movie because you read the name in the beginning and he didn't show up yet... It may be a cameo, but it could spoil the twist of the movie.", ">\n\nI like them at the end because I can just leave. I wouldn't want to sit through seeing everyone and their mom's name and then watching the movie. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because I'd be annoyed.", ">\n\nCredits at the beginning can ruin the surprise. I like seeing people that I didn't know were in the movie pop up an hour in.", ">\n\nOne of the things I love most a out Prime Video is I can pull up the cast at any time during the movie/show. My husband tends to do a lot of \"who's that?\" and \"what have we seen them in?\". It's nice just to be able to pull it up mid video.", ">\n\nDepends on the film. Some are better with, some are better without.\nEg. I rewatched \"Come And See\" (1985) the other day. I don't think the ending would work if credits rolled afterwards.\nThen again, silent credits can also maintain the feeling of dread that a film bestows upon its audience. For example, \"Beneath The Planet Of The Apes\" (1970) does this very well.\nAnd Star Wars is Star Wars.", ">\n\nMarvel fan detected", ">\n\nStar Wars is one of the few movies that had no credits at the beginning, and I believe that’s what got George Lucas kicked out of the directors guild. As a result, he couldn’t use directors who were in that guild for Return of the Jedi, which is why he settled on Richard Marquand.", ">\n\nOne of the best things about end credits is the music they play over them. Sure, an overture at the beginning with credits is nice, but the music at the end can really help you decompress after a good movie.", ">\n\nJust watched Tar with Blanchett. They did this. Terrible movie, terrible idea. Pissed me off just out of principle. I understand I’m over doing it. I don’t care. I don’t want 5 minutes of credits before the movie", ">\n\nI saw that too. What bothered me is they ended up putting the same credits at the end anyway. What was the point?", ">\n\nPutting the credits at the beginning of Tar is a thematic choice, to point out that art is often achieved by a team of many specialized players, rather than one \"genius artist\" like Lydia Tar." ]