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[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19.." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control.", ">\n\nWow, maybe they were just fed agitators all along\nNo, that couldn't possibly be it. 0% chance." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control.", ">\n\nWow, maybe they were just fed agitators all along\nNo, that couldn't possibly be it. 0% chance.", ">\n\nSo when y’all gonna admit this was a psyop?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control.", ">\n\nWow, maybe they were just fed agitators all along\nNo, that couldn't possibly be it. 0% chance.", ">\n\nSo when y’all gonna admit this was a psyop?", ">\n\nProof?" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control.", ">\n\nWow, maybe they were just fed agitators all along\nNo, that couldn't possibly be it. 0% chance.", ">\n\nSo when y’all gonna admit this was a psyop?", ">\n\nProof?", ">\n\nThis is kind of like “The Last of Us,” except the fungi is ignorance along with hatred and destruction it spawns." ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control.", ">\n\nWow, maybe they were just fed agitators all along\nNo, that couldn't possibly be it. 0% chance.", ">\n\nSo when y’all gonna admit this was a psyop?", ">\n\nProof?", ">\n\nThis is kind of like “The Last of Us,” except the fungi is ignorance along with hatred and destruction it spawns.", ">\n\n\nCoomer\n\nLol" ]

[ "What the ever-loving fuck.", ">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.", ">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"", ">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.", ">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.", ">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.", ">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.", ">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.", ">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.", ">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.", ">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.", ">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it", ">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.", ">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.", ">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.", ">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.", ">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?", ">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".", ">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.", ">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America", ">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.", ">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.", ">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?", ">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.", ">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.", ">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.", ">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.", ">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.", ">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.", ">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.", ">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.", ">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old", ">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.", ">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.", ">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts", ">\n\nTrump is still a free man.", ">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.", ">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.", ">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.", ">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.", ">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.", ">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.", ">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.", ">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.", ">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.", ">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.", ">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.", ">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.", ">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.", ">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.", ">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡", ">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.", ">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.", ">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.", ">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau", ">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.", ">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?", ">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”", ">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.", ">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke", ">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.", ">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.", ">\n\nThis is America", ">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now", ">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure", ">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.", ">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.", ">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down.", ">\n\nI am more than willing to keep it open just for trump and his traitor minions.", ">\n\nSo you're willing to be no better than they are. Got it.", ">\n\nYeah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA. I will always be better than trumptrash. Fact is, these people are traitors and don’t deserve prison or even Guantanamo.", ">\n\n\neah, I didn’t try to overthrow democracy in the USA.\n\nNo, you just want to imprison people you don't like in a place where they can be held indefinitely without trial, and where they aren't protected by the constitution due to its location.", ">\n\nNot “people I don’t like.” Fucking traitors.", ">\n\nThey committed acts against the constitution, and you want to do the same. \nHow are y'all any different?", ">\n\nCharge every single one of the Jan 6 Terrorist. These Marines violated their oath on the word of the traitor Disgraced Former President.", ">\n\nPart of the problem is cultural. Teens and young men from conservative parts of the country are more likely to join the armed forces than their liberal counterparts. \nFor the sake of our democracy, the military needs to figure out to recruit more liberals and keep the idealogical mix of the troops balanced.\nIf the military and its leadership gets too conservative, a coup gets much more likely. To be fair, if things were reversed, a too politically liberal leaning military would also be dangerous. \nThis is an issue that I hope gets talked about more.", ">\n\nAs a liberal vet, you'd have to change everything about it.\nIt's too brutish of an environment for most liberals, some of it by design, some of it due to the nasty chest-thumping machismo culture. And it flows from the top down.\nAs much as I hate rules (liberal) I think they work well on conservatives and recruits just need to understand how drastic the consequences for sedition are. In order to do that a lot of housecleaning would have to take place many levels up. I don't think we're close to a solution with this one.", ">\n\n(Fellow lefty vet) - Well some of it depends on the branch as well. I will say if you hadn't told me the branch of the offenders, the Marines still would have been my first guess. I don't know what they do over there, but I'm generally not impressed with their average enlisted guy that I've dealt with over the years.", ">\n\nThe military is “the original” old boys club.", ">\n\nWhat in the hell?\nHow were they even allowed to remain marines after not only actively participating in a political 'protest' (putting an attempt to overthrow democracy and the constitution in an act of treasonous insurrection very lightly) but also breaking several laws!?", ">\n\nOF COURSE they did. Republicans run the military. What’s a little cop-beating terrorism, a little feces-smearing, eye-gouging, bear-spraying sedition?", ">\n\nIf we do have a civil war 2, it’ll be bc our government totally failed dealing with treasonous behavior. It was almost encouraged", ">\n\nHow the fuck have they not been court martialed? When I was in the Navy we weren't even allowed to go to protests.", ">\n\nThey should make one of the qualifications to being in intelligence, idk, being intelligent.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nThat may be the understatement of the year.", ">\n\n...And then they said \"the red ones are delicious\"", ">\n\nSo is America over? Where else can I go that has diversity and strength?", ">\n\nCalm down", ">\n\nOMG the marines have traitors in key intelligence roles. Congress is protecting them. Garland is losing control of America.", ">\n\nThe US government's chief export is corruption.", ">\n\nSo we are rewarding treason now? What a crock of shit.", ">\n\nIf your a young white man in military. You can almost do anything and get away. Sexual assault and murder included. \nSame result as this capitol riot stuff. It’s just the public is just now catching on to how the military operates.", ">\n\nI served 6 years in 2 different branches of service. I did 4 deployments. The military is a toxic idiocracy. Leadership is bro culture. Hard pass on re-enlistment.", ">\n\n\nThe reassignments raise serious new questions about the ability of both the military and the U.S. intelligence community to identify right-wing extremists in their midst.\n\nReally? Because it seems that they identified them just fine. Then they rewarded them.", ">\n\nPolice could arrest protesters on the streets by the thousands in New York, LA, Seattle, and Portland, but when they had them all in one building in DC they couldn't arrest anyone at that time and instead helped direct them to the exits in an orderly manner.", ">\n\nThe marine corps is full of right wing extremism? That’s crazy, who could’ve seen that coming?", ">\n\nHere I am with 9 years of military, education back ground can't even get a fucking interview.", ">\n\nThese Marines are Republican right-wing extremists. Dishonorable discharge and time behind bars is the only fair solution here.", ">\n\nWhat a shame. Think of the message it sends. That was the one place you thought standards were held. Think again!", ">\n\nWhen this happens in the rest of the world it's a corrupt and crumbling system, run by despots and oligarchs, working against the will of the people and intervention to help the people is constantly touted as a correct path. \nWhen it happens here, it's just the 'justice system'. Strange.", ">\n\nThe coup continues…\nSo many of these traitors getting a slap on the wrist when they should be locked up forever. They’re a continued danger to the United States.", ">\n\nThere's long been a circular relationship between far-right ideology and national security/ intelligence work.", ">\n\nLol the us gave terrorists security clearances", ">\n\nThe military is full of racists. FULL.", ">\n\nAs a currently serving Officer, this makes me sick.", ">\n\nI had someone charged with felonious assault against me who enlisted in the marine afterwards. On the court date he came with his CO/Recruiter, in full uniform, as character witness I guess? My impression was that they’d rather let a felon (pretty much everyone else in the incident was convicted) still be in the service than to lose out on a grunt that they trained.\n— Starfox", ">\n\nThat’s about whyte.", ">\n\n\"Spy Job?\" Im heading into work, I'll read this article in a bit, and I'm 99.99999% sure in either this article or after a bit more digging and a quick look in my global email lists, there'll be nothing special about this or these people.", ">\n\nPeople need to arm themselves. This is fucking scary, and republicans are upending the process to fix these kinds of things. Why would republicans not want to prevent another coup? Or a civil war? I wonder why…", ">\n\nThat picture. Damn these are not the Marines they use in commercials lol", ">\n\nThe military industrial complex promotes those who support fascism?! When did that start happening?!", ">\n\nSomehow that wasn't enough to suspend their security clearances?", ">\n\nLets be real, they were probably spy assets to begin with.", ">\n\nProbably because they were the primary instigators. \nThere's a video of a guy breaking a window and the other protesters are telling him to stop. \nThe guy breaking the window then manhandles the main guy telling him to stop like he had police or fed training.", ">\n\nI agree that the chronology and how it aligns with the headline can be misleading for those who only read the headline (hence Reddiquette says to not only respond to headlines and you should read the article before you comment or vote). That said, by publishing this, they put pressure on their higher-ups to ensure that they lose their clearances.", ">\n\nRemember at the end of a civilization there are only 3 real jobs politics, soldiering and sex work. Welcome to the fall of the western empire", ">\n\nSpy jobs. We are losing out ability to use the English language correctly.", ">\n\nHow so?", ">\n\nThat's \"Marine Intelligence\" for ya. Pathetic.", ">\n\nDo we know that they weren’t in the riots because they were assigned to infiltrate there?", ">\n\nThat was a mistake. They've already demonstrated their willingness to commit treason.", ">\n\nI am starting to be concerned that this isn’t being handled well.", ">\n\nMy clearance was denied because I was arrested a few times for graffiti between the ages of 16 and 19..", ">\n\nAshley Babbitt had an active TS. Connect the dots.", ">\n\n\nAshley Babbitt\n\nAshli", ">\n\nGotcha.", ">\n\nI’m not sure how anyone expects such a big institution to identify these people without some insider help, which happened here. And it partly happened because one of them decided to be honest during his security clearance process.", ">\n\nI feel they can just transfer them to the shittiest places and wait them out.", ">\n\nWhat a waste of a career. They are never going to maintain their clearances with that on their record.", ">\n\nMany of America's government agencies are compromised by conservative traitors.", ">\n\nTraitors get locked up. How many extremist are they not catching?", ">\n\nIt hit me the other day while driving to work. The GOP's small government isn't that they don't want a government body that's huge and everywhere. They want 1 person in charge of it all. They want to worship a dictator. Their idea of small is one person making all the decisions. No 3 branches, no attorney general, no supreme court. One person. Once you see it like that it really starts to make sense.", ">\n\nNow the only job they’ll get is making license plates?", ">\n\nI worked for a missile defense contractor during the beginning of Covid and that facility was full of these people. One second they’re talkin up their security clearance walking into a SCIF and the next they’re in the lounge talking about Bill Gates and Pelosi harvesting adrenochrome and how Trump never left office.", ">\n\nI bet I could pick the bowl out of the cubbard that he uses to cut his hair.", ">\n\nThe entire system is rotten", ">\n\nBlack. Flag.", ">\n\nHired, no doubt, by the ones who didn’t get caught.", ">\n\nLife in the brig", ">\n\nI quit ....I'm leaving", ">\n\nFucking amazing that we have white nationalists at these high positions and they're known. Of course we have known that white nationalism has been on the rise in the military for a very long time.", ">\n\nSound like how ol' Adolf discovered the nazi party. He was in intelligence.", ">\n\nDo whatever you want\nCommit any crimes, literally do anything you want. Nothing means anything, everything is an illusion. Live free until you die", ">\n\nCommandant Berger should put these Butt crack nasty traitor Marines in Leavenworth.", ">\n\nRight wing extremists are working together to plot an overthrow of our government while serving within said government but we probably have nothing to worry about.", ">\n\nPar for the course for the GOP!", ">\n\nmans name is really Coomer. oh man.", ">\n\nWe need prosecutions of the actual organizers of Jan 6th, Trump and his cabinet that were involved.", ">\n\nDon't worry folks. There's a low bar set for joining Marine Corps Intelligence. All you gotta be able to do is identify the different colored crayons.", ">\n\nWe are goddamned buffoons.", ">\n\nSo much for insider threat warnings", ">\n\nTheir entire chain of command should all be under suspicion.", ">\n\nWhat is the best place to move to to be safely insulated from this when this country implodes?", ">\n\nPutin has successfully captured the US.", ">\n\nJustice is dead", ">\n\nFirst off when it comes to intelligence in the Marine Corps if you are not a staff Sergeant or above or an officer they don’t trust you OK these guys weren’t staff officers they weren’t officers so they were basically clerks did they see classified information probably but that they weren’t giving high spy jobs like the bullshit article says\nHow I know USMC 85-90 class 176 ocs mos 0201", ">\n\nKinda inflammatory headline. They didn’t get “highly sensitive spy jobs”, they have since been promoted. Some promotions in the military are automatic. The issue here is that they received no punishment under the UCMJ.\nIf they genuinely received “sensitive” assignments, you wouldn’t be reading about it.", ">\n\nAs a veteran who is pretty liberal, one of the dumbest things today's left does is vilify military and police. Can they be better? Of course but if you want to change those institutions you do that from the inside. There can never be a time we don't have them. However, the modern US left is instead not joining, causing those critical institutions to skew more and more right. This is a trend almost no one talks about but it's a huge fucking issue.", ">\n\nWhy is trump being blamed for January 6? just asking. without going all angry and downvoting", ">\n\nYou're responsible for the fires you start. Especially if you add more gasoline just as they're getting out of control.", ">\n\nWow, maybe they were just fed agitators all along\nNo, that couldn't possibly be it. 0% chance.", ">\n\nSo when y’all gonna admit this was a psyop?", ">\n\nProof?", ">\n\nThis is kind of like “The Last of Us,” except the fungi is ignorance along with hatred and destruction it spawns.", ">\n\n\nCoomer\n\nLol", ">\n\nThey were rewardEd" ]

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