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"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again"
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This is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic. | [
"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory"
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"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory",
">\n\nThis is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic."
] |
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Gravity is a hoax!!! Atoms don’t exist!!! Living organisms aren’t derived of cells!!! | [
"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory",
">\n\nThis is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic.",
">\n\nIm getting really fucking tired of stupid people with powers they should not have making the rules for everyone. I vote. Please vote."
] |
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More than 20 people testified against Senate Bill 235, concerned that it could keep teachers from including gravitational theory, evolution and cell theory in curriculum.
Gravitational Theory
I'm not sure what they are talking about here, because gravity is observable and testable, which means that it could be included in curriculum. it meets the definition of science fact laid out in the bill. This sounds like fear mongering.
Evolution
sounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.
Heres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:
The latter idea [Darwinian Evolution] was developed at a time when the earliest living cells were considered to be exceedingly simple structures that could subsequently evolve in a Darwinian way. These ideas should of course have been critically examined and rejected after the discovery of the exceedingly complex molecular structures involved in proteins and in DNA. But this did not happen.
The transformation of an ensemble of appropriately chosen biological monomers (e.g. amino acids, nucleotides) into a primitive living cell capable of further evolution appears to require overcoming an information hurdle of superastronomical proportions (Appendix A), an event that could not have happened within the time frame of the Earth except, we believe, as a miracle
although to be technical, schools teach molecular evolution and darwinian evolution blended together, and these are very different topics, but they are not differentiated to the students. all that "primordial soup" nonsense is not darwinian evolution, its molecular evolution, and it definitely should not be taught, because its highly inaccurate and nothing we understand about biochem suppports it.
cell theory
again this is testable and observable so it qualifies to be taught under the bill. more fear mongering. | [
"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory",
">\n\nThis is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic.",
">\n\nIm getting really fucking tired of stupid people with powers they should not have making the rules for everyone. I vote. Please vote.",
">\n\nGravity is a hoax!!! Atoms don’t exist!!! Living organisms aren’t derived of cells!!!"
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sounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.
That's as valid as killing the teaching of gravity. Evolution is also repeatedly observable.
"Heres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:"
Not only were those authors Christian, they were paid to lie by ultraright wing creationist frauds. The lead author, Steele, has been laughed out of the scientific community, and is now claiming that Covid-19 was caused when a meteor crashed into Wuhan.
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"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory",
">\n\nThis is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic.",
">\n\nIm getting really fucking tired of stupid people with powers they should not have making the rules for everyone. I vote. Please vote.",
">\n\nGravity is a hoax!!! Atoms don’t exist!!! Living organisms aren’t derived of cells!!!",
">\n\n\nMore than 20 people testified against Senate Bill 235, concerned that it could keep teachers from including gravitational theory, evolution and cell theory in curriculum.\n\nGravitational Theory\nI'm not sure what they are talking about here, because gravity is observable and testable, which means that it could be included in curriculum. it meets the definition of science fact laid out in the bill. This sounds like fear mongering.\nEvolution\nsounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.\nHeres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:\n\nThe latter idea [Darwinian Evolution] was developed at a time when the earliest living cells were considered to be exceedingly simple structures that could subsequently evolve in a Darwinian way. These ideas should of course have been critically examined and rejected after the discovery of the exceedingly complex molecular structures involved in proteins and in DNA. But this did not happen.\nThe transformation of an ensemble of appropriately chosen biological monomers (e.g. amino acids, nucleotides) into a primitive living cell capable of further evolution appears to require overcoming an information hurdle of superastronomical proportions (Appendix A), an event that could not have happened within the time frame of the Earth except, we believe, as a miracle\n\nalthough to be technical, schools teach molecular evolution and darwinian evolution blended together, and these are very different topics, but they are not differentiated to the students. all that \"primordial soup\" nonsense is not darwinian evolution, its molecular evolution, and it definitely should not be taught, because its highly inaccurate and nothing we understand about biochem suppports it.\ncell theory\nagain this is testable and observable so it qualifies to be taught under the bill. more fear mongering."
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Evolution is also repeatedly observable
your conflating unrelated ideas. you're talking about speciation, which is not the topic here. you're also not up to date on evolutionary science, but thats also another topic.
Not only were those authors Christian, they were paid to lie by ultraright wing creationist frauds.
this is a lie you made up, which is pathetic, but typical for redditors who are anti science.
and is now claiming that Covid-19 was caused when a meteor crashed into Wuhan.
this is true, and its looney, but has no bearing on the discussion. this is perfectly in line with his panspermia hypothesis about how virus travel on asteroids. scientists do this all the time to generate attenion to themselves and their work. its a PR stunt, not a sign of mental decline. | [
"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory",
">\n\nThis is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic.",
">\n\nIm getting really fucking tired of stupid people with powers they should not have making the rules for everyone. I vote. Please vote.",
">\n\nGravity is a hoax!!! Atoms don’t exist!!! Living organisms aren’t derived of cells!!!",
">\n\n\nMore than 20 people testified against Senate Bill 235, concerned that it could keep teachers from including gravitational theory, evolution and cell theory in curriculum.\n\nGravitational Theory\nI'm not sure what they are talking about here, because gravity is observable and testable, which means that it could be included in curriculum. it meets the definition of science fact laid out in the bill. This sounds like fear mongering.\nEvolution\nsounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.\nHeres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:\n\nThe latter idea [Darwinian Evolution] was developed at a time when the earliest living cells were considered to be exceedingly simple structures that could subsequently evolve in a Darwinian way. These ideas should of course have been critically examined and rejected after the discovery of the exceedingly complex molecular structures involved in proteins and in DNA. But this did not happen.\nThe transformation of an ensemble of appropriately chosen biological monomers (e.g. amino acids, nucleotides) into a primitive living cell capable of further evolution appears to require overcoming an information hurdle of superastronomical proportions (Appendix A), an event that could not have happened within the time frame of the Earth except, we believe, as a miracle\n\nalthough to be technical, schools teach molecular evolution and darwinian evolution blended together, and these are very different topics, but they are not differentiated to the students. all that \"primordial soup\" nonsense is not darwinian evolution, its molecular evolution, and it definitely should not be taught, because its highly inaccurate and nothing we understand about biochem suppports it.\ncell theory\nagain this is testable and observable so it qualifies to be taught under the bill. more fear mongering.",
">\n\n\nsounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.\n\nThat's as valid as killing the teaching of gravity. Evolution is also repeatedly observable.\n\"Heres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:\"\nNot only were those authors Christian, they were paid to lie by ultraright wing creationist frauds. The lead author, Steele, has been laughed out of the scientific community, and is now claiming that Covid-19 was caused when a meteor crashed into Wuhan.\nGo fuck yourself sideways."
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"Maybe they should require a GED to hold public office in Montana?",
">\n\nLauren Bobert has entered the chat.",
">\n\nOnly took her what, three tries?\nStill better than McCarthy's speaker vote!",
">\n\nThe fact she won at all. And the won reelection is why I've lost all faith in humanity.",
">\n\nNot humanity just Americans.",
">\n\nChina and North Korean spy balloons, Russia trying to start World War III, America being America. And everyone actively ignoring all the warning signs of the impact of climate change while the 1% work to fuck everyone over even more.\nI try not to think about this stuff though, just take a edible and play video games while I wait for the heat blast. I'm close enough to DC.",
">\n\nSigh. I feel ya...",
">\n\nIm not joking about the edibles. Shit has been life changing when it comes to managing anxiety or getting a good night's sleep.",
">\n\nYep. Wholeheartedly agree!",
">\n\n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, \nit leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false \nassumptions,\" Emrich said\nClearly he has no idea what the definition of scientific theory is, what it does, how it is arrived at and how science advances by the repeated examination of theories works. He could probably do with a good BA degree, if he could get into college that is.",
">\n\nI think he’s conflating theory with hypothesis.",
">\n\nBasically. He's conflating the scientific use of theory versus the common usage. Most people use the word in place of hypothesis in non-scientific usage.",
">\n\nApparently, the concept of a symbol that can mean more than one thing has eluded him.",
">\n\nVery ironic.",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is. \n\"If we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions,\" Emrich said.\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.",
">\n\n\nEmrich stringing words together will no basic understanding of the scientific method.\n\nOr accidently saying the quiet part out loud\n\nunfortunately, it leads us to asking questions\n\nCannot have people asking questions, they must simply believe what ever BS we indoctrinate them with",
">\n\nYou left out the \"based on false assumptions\" part. Which changes the quote completely. I don't agree with what these people are doing, but when the truth is already so outrageous, why do you feel the need to make shit up to make them look bad? This just lets them say \"look how the left twists your words\"",
">\n\nSee, someone who actually appreciates free speech and learning would respond to “questions based on false assumptions” with an opportunity to point out those assumptions.",
">\n\nBut there's a difference between banning unproven views vs not wanting to teach them in grade school. Like if you taught kids that the Mandela effect is true, people would be justified in saying knock it off, even though we shouldn't ban the idea outright.\nThe real story is them not knowing that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis and requires a ton of evidence to get that classification. Evolution is just a theory but so is gravity.",
">\n\nI recommend him climbing a tall ladder and testing out the \"theory of gravity\" and tell us what he thinks afterwards.",
">\n\nObviously, you fall because you’re a sinner",
">\n\nNah, that's just a theory",
">\n\nA GAME THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!",
">\n\nCounter Bill: Anyone who is against science, the teaching of science, the educating of people to think for themselves, and/or just any form of kindling logical thought, have to strip naked and go live in the wild as they are against the very foundations our modern society was built upon over the course of many generations of those striving to improve upon it with their minds and as such these people should not be able to enjoy the privileges and benefits of said civilization.",
">\n\nword up",
">\n\nI’m really no longer surprised to see republicans striving to bring the US into the dark ages.",
">\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ Dark Aged Again!",
">\n\n\nMake America G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ~~Dark~~ White Aged Again!",
">\n\nBy that logic then, I would assume that they are ok with banning religion in all forms in schools as that is just a bunch of shit you can’t prove 100%.",
">\n\nIt's okay to have blind faith when it's something I believe in.\nWhen other people form hypotheses or follow supported theories, they're just being sheep tho",
">\n\n\nThe bill is sponsored by freshman Republican Senator Daniel Emrich from Great Falls. In his testimony, Emrich said the bill would make sure students are taught what a scientific fact is.\n\nWonder what church he goes to.",
">\n\nIt’s great because gravity is a great example to show the difference between a law and a theory because gravitation has existed as both.",
">\n\nThis is absolutely insane. America is going to Hell in a hand basket.\nEvangelical fundamentalists and trumpublican wackos want us all to regress back into the Dark Ages.",
">\n\nThis legislator is a moron but this is a bill that will never go anywhere in one of the country’s least populous states.",
">\n\n🤔\nI wouldn't count your chickens yet.....",
">\n\nIt’s not sponsored by anyone else and the initial legal review indicates it’s likely unconstitutional (reading between the lines). I spent most of my career working around state government and I know attention whoring legislation when I see it.",
">\n\nStill, so disturbing that it's even being proposed.",
">\n\nI used to laugh at Mike Judge’s “Idiocracy” because it was a work of fiction. Now I’m on the verge of tears because it’s a documentary.",
">\n\nIt’s been a documentary since it was released, now it’s a goddamn prophecy.",
">\n\nThe Christian Taliban is at it again.",
">\n\nThe stupid is especially strong with Kevin Hudson. \"Protect the children\" shouldn't be license to make them equally and more stupid.",
">\n\nAs a recovering catholic and a gay man every time I hear the phrase \" protect the children \" I cold shiver runs down my spine and my body goes in to protective aggressive mode.",
">\n\nIkr?",
">\n\n\nThe legislation’s sponsor says by banning scientific theories, the policy aims to prevent kids from being taught things that aren’t true.\n\nI think I have to go sit down for a while. I don't know how to process such an absurd sentence. I don't understand how there are adults, who were voted into office, in this world, in this time period, who...\nWe have passed peak IQ. We're done.",
">\n\nI feel like I read that IQ did peak in the 90s because of CO2 in the atmosphere. I can't find it now though so don't treat that like a fact or anything. Good thing I'm not in Montana.",
">\n\nWell no, it's a hypothesis. It would be difficult proving a causal link with so many confounding variables.",
">\n\nGreat Falls? Jackass is from My city?! Already loathed Montana Republican class traitors and carpetbaggers but now it's personal!",
">\n\nTake his seat!!!!! 😈",
">\n\nThe pride of the stupids.",
">\n\nWow. That would be incredibly stupid, I'm sure that headline is hyperbole. \n*checks article\nNope. This moron really doesn't understand what a scientific theory is.",
">\n\nOr the difference between Theory and Hypotheses.",
">\n\nWhen will they get around to teaching politicians what a scientific theory is?",
">\n\nGuess we'd better throw out modern medicine completely, considering that's all based on several scientific theories. Let's go back to trepanning and humorism, while we're at it.",
">\n\nMan, this Bill guy sounds like an asshole.",
">\n\nIn his defense, Senator Emrich's existence is a pretty good counter-argument to the theory that man has evolved.",
">\n\nWhile your point still stands, in reality evolution refers only to change, not improvement.",
">\n\nAmerican, for fucks sake can you get a GRIP already?! Still using bullshit like Fahrenheit is funny, but evolution isn’t funny",
">\n\nYeah we have problems here. Just please believe that the majority of Americans are sane and reasonable. This political polarization is bringing out the stupid in a lot of us for sure.",
">\n\nIt's the end. Any science-based company should leave these red states because they (the states) are lost causes and should be punished financially in addition to being shunned. \"If you teach religion-based theories instead of science you are not producing a qualified workforce. Later.\"",
">\n\nwe need to break the country up.\nMy federal tax dollars should not be used to bail out people that can't be bothered to understand one single goddamn thing.\nif the people in Montana want to live in mud huts and have tribes of sister wives why do I need to waste my tax money to try and stop them.",
">\n\noh dear...",
">\n\nThe US should just let the ignorant eater states devolve into idiocy then kick them out of the union. In another generation they will be empty territories ready to be recolonized.",
">\n\n“Eater states” 😂",
">\n\nEveryone has lost their god damn minds",
">\n\nOh man, I bet their reasoning is that they don't understand what \"theory\" means in relation to science.",
">\n\nThat’s fine, they just don’t get to use anything humans invented using any sort of science.\nSoo good luck doing anything",
">\n\nIdiots that don't know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory somehow attract enough votes to hold office.",
">\n\nTaliban GOP strikes again.",
">\n\nHowdy Arabia!\n(Not mine, but fits)",
">\n\nY'all Qaeda",
">\n\nplease tell me this is rage bait, please tell me this is rage bait, ple-",
">\n\nMy \"Republicans are Stupid Theory\" is being proven by this assclown. It shall now be taught as \"Republicans are Stupid, FACT. \"",
">\n\nThis is a veiled attempt to try to get creationism taught in schools. One of the attacks creationists make against evolution is that it's a theory and not a fact. They completely misunderstand the concept of scientific theory, or willfully misrepresent what it is to try to sway the under educated.",
">\n\nYep, this is just « Intelligent Design » in another package.",
">\n\nBill who? Sounds like a jerk. Why are you such a jerk, Bill?",
">\n\nIncoming \"evolution is only a theory\" and not a scientific fact.\nI thought this was what the Scopes trial resolved...",
">\n\nLet’s just ban school. Off to the mines with the children.",
">\n\nEffectively, that's what promoting home-schooling, funding Christian private schools and defunding public schools has done.",
">\n\nA theory is fact. An hypothesis must be tested and proven to be true. Good grief. These people should not be governing.",
">\n\nThe guy's facebook page is a dumpster fire of anti-vax, anti-\"woke\", anti-CRT, election denial garbage. From his profile \"I'm christian and proud of it\". His only experience prior to being elected was as a car salesman.",
">\n\nFor Republicans you don't need experience, just \"I'm a proud Christian, and you win support.",
">\n\n\nIf we operate on the assumption that a theory is fact, unfortunately, it leads us to asking questions that may be potentially based on false assumptions\n\nAnd apparently, if we operate on the assumption that senators know what the word \"theory\" means, it leads us to electing morons who write up bills based on elementary-school level misunderstandings of very basic words.",
">\n\nIt's always some neckbeard like this promoting these kinds of bills. Always.",
">\n\nFucking idiot republicans.",
">\n\nI'm so glad all the stupidest fucking people have voted stupid fucking people into power to use the force of the state to make everyone around them just as fucking stupid as they are.^(/s)",
">\n\nThe future of the GOP is dependent on the dumbing down of the next generation of voters.",
">\n\n''the future of the Dem's is dependent on importing a new ellectorate.''\n(that disgust you feel is what your spreading. this is the point)",
">\n\nTell me you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.",
">\n\nI'm not sure that is a good idea.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just theocrats in suits.",
">\n\nChristofascists.",
">\n\nMaybe they should ban religion first. Forcing people to act and think base on folklore and fairytales is down right dangerous ... they are indoctrinating our kids",
">\n\nNext thing you know they'll be teaching kids that a solar eclipse isn't caused by a dragon eating the sun and that sacrificing virgins won't do anything to stop it.",
">\n\nThat does sound more fun. I would like to subscribe to your dragon worshipping newsletter",
">\n\nI thought Bill was a person for a second and this was just an opinion piece. Like why is what Bill thinks so important",
">\n\nOmg, what are we trying to do? Recreate the middle ages?!",
">\n\nI mean....I had fun at medieval times",
">\n\nLet’s get stupid!",
">\n\nWhy am I not surprised by this?",
">\n\nDammit Bill",
">\n\nIt's definately time to crack down on this THEORY of gravity. In fact, it's past time.\nIntelligent falling all the way!",
">\n\nAh yes, the ol' \"I don't understand how science works so I'm afraid of it and therefor it must be banned\" argument. If there were only a way for people to understand things they lack knowledge about. Maybe by speaking with people that do have said knowledge and, you know, ^(maybe) asking questions.",
">\n\nI don't think these people understand what the word theory means.",
">\n\nAnd why should I care about what a dude named Bill wants?",
">\n\nTake my upvote you bastard",
">\n\nMost bills get shut down. This will be one of them",
">\n\nSomeone who doesn't know what a scientific theory is trying to ban them from schools. Jesus fucking Christ we're back to Creationists aren't we.",
">\n\nWoohoo! Texas gets to move up one notch to 42 on educational attainment! \n(Bizarrely, though: we rank 15th in quality of education available. So... lots of people really, really don't give a shit about school here.)",
">\n\njesus fuckin H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH!!!!\nAre we back to fighting this anti-science Creationist horseshit AGAIN?\nI realize it never really went away but ffs, this crap never ends with these religious anti-intellectual goobers entirely misunderstanding the word \"theory\" in the context of science. Hell, even the word \"fact\" overloaded their circuits and they decided they would follow 'alternative' facts.\nIf you're unsure about what I'm so pissed and angry about this, I would strongly recommend reading the 2007 non-fiction book about the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial of 2005. It details every ridiculous argument these dunderheads tried to spin in court about how science was bad and their beliefs and dreams were better. Fucking nightmare, all of them.",
">\n\nWHERE IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT??",
">\n\nI think I’m gonna have to leave this sub . It doesn’t matter that I agree with everyone here- it just ruins my fucking day to see shit like this all the time… the willful ignorance motivated by politics and religion really makes me wish there was some other continent in the pacific we could just send all those crazies to so they could all be shitty and crazy to each other all day and leave the rest of the world alone.",
">\n\nSo scientific theories won’t be taught for engineering degrees? Specifically petroleum engineering? The degree that is used for part of their revenue?",
">\n\nWhile I don't like this bill for other reasons, the redefinition seems more odd than really harmful, as it seem the attempt to distinguish between fact and theory is to move the words more in line with a layman's use of the words. Most people not trained in science will use hypothesis and theory more interchangeable, whereas in science, theory is much more support. Why they want to do this in the context of science class is beyond me.\nThe bill describes scientific fact as being \"observable and repeatable\" so something like the THEORY of evolution would be a scientific fact. Bit of a head scratcher there, I guess I understand what they are doing, but no clue why they are doing this redefinition, especially with the fact they should have been able to predict some sort of backlash to the wording. Theoretically this would ban something like intelligent design, and it isn't really observable or repeatable, so silver linings I guess.\nMore importantly, IMO, are two other things. First, part of the rational given for the bill more generally, has to do with if something is still up for debate within science it should be taught in public education. As long as it is taught as a debate, I don't see why ongoing questions can't be taught to students. Second, it later develops the definition of scientific fact to, \"an indisputable and repeatable observation of a natural phenomenon\". Indisputable is an odd word in the context of science, as all results should be questioned and verified, as science is ultimately about the process, not any individual facts.\nThere was a hearing on the bill yesterday (2/6) but the audio is not yet available so not sure what the arguments given for and against by the committee are.\n\nEDIT: Link to bill status / text\nAlso just something sort of interesting, the only other two bills sponsored by the same guy are to remove jail penalties for littering and driving with a suspend/revoked license",
">\n\nYou’re missing the bait and switch. The point of this is to do two things. First it’s intended to bring science down to their religions level of credibility by equating theory to hypothesis which it’s not. Hell, even a hypothesis isn’t just a guess. The second part of this is goal post moving. What you don’t realize is in a lot of religious circles they separate science into observational science which by their definition is evidence that is directly observed in laboratory settings and historical science which by their definition is inferred through evidence. So what they will do is say that evolution is a historical science because it takes millions of years to observe evolution so it isn’t true but then they will say that the events in their holy book is observational science because it was directly observed by humans so that proves it. They will then push that “observational” science is much more credible suggesting their religion is more likely to be true.",
">\n\nTo be fair, they're just theories... /s",
">\n\nWhat is a scientific fact anyway?",
">\n\nIt is a scientific fact that part of the United States is moving towards a Christian version of the Islamic Extremists. The goal is to eliminate free thinking so that their daughters won't have sex.",
">\n\nAfter decades spent with an infinite supply of cocaine and high class prostitutes, this is what Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin read to reach orgasm, nothing else works anymore for them.",
">\n\nCan people in Montana spell “science” ?",
">\n\nwelcome to nazi germany 1930",
">\n\nLetting lawyers near science is a bad idea",
">\n\nLetting REPUBLICANS near science is a bad idea. FTFY",
">\n\nLetting republicans near anything is a bad idea. And yet 40 something percent keep voting for them",
">\n\nWhy even go to school?",
">\n\nHow do they plan to accomplish anything?",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nincluding the theory of gravity ?",
">\n\nGood to see that a firm grasp of how science works is a prerequisite for serving in the Montana state legislature.\n/s",
">\n\nWe’ll them schools are going to be less populated",
">\n\nThis is probably be too hard for them to read. Guess that's why they want ban it.\nscientific theory",
">\n\nWho is Bill and why does he want to control teaching?",
">\n\nUm. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory.",
">\n\npoor kids",
">\n\nAs someone who frequently, for some reason I can’t understand, sees r/Montana posts appear as “suggested posts” I can totally see this happening. Just nothing but hatred and racism and anti-outsiders in Montana, at least from the majority of the population represented on Reddit.",
">\n\nFascism burning hot in rural America..",
">\n\nSo, you can't teach any serious science?\nNewton's theories are out.\nRelatively is out \nHeliocentric theory of Galileo is out.\nEvolution is out.\nWave theory of light is out, as well as the quantum dual particle/wave theory.",
">\n\nAmerican Taliban Association approves it. Next law: ban girls from schools.",
">\n\nI guess he doesn’t want girls to get any form of education. His party is no better than the taliban",
">\n\nWow what a great idea /s Probably because Montana republicans are too stupid to understand anything sciencey.",
">\n\nHey US, your fascism is starting to show.",
">\n\nBill is such a douche.",
">\n\nThey're really pushing for a handmaids tale future, aren't they?",
">\n\nMurica!",
">\n\nTime for Montana's Hank Green to step up to the plate lol",
">\n\nShould be called out by his own party. thats not a hill to die on",
">\n\nI might be moving to montana soon",
">\n\nGravity is Jesus' hands on you're shoulders holding you down to earth until he lets go when its you're time to float up to heaven because he loves you so much more than anything, but if your bad, think the wrong things, or don't love him and his dad as much as he/they want you to and in the way they want you to or if you use pronouns, then he'll pushes you down into the hell fire where you'll burn for eternity. This will all be on the science test at the end of the year.",
">\n\nBill would make kids dumber in Montana schools.",
">\n\nIf it wasn't for the politics (which impacts EVERYTHING), I'd live in Montana.\nThis is so disheartening but not at all surprising.",
">\n\nTheocracy.",
">\n\nMake America Flat Again",
">\n\nI thought pretty much everything was a theory",
">\n\nThis is going to make getting to school without gravity problematic.",
">\n\nIm getting really fucking tired of stupid people with powers they should not have making the rules for everyone. I vote. Please vote.",
">\n\nGravity is a hoax!!! Atoms don’t exist!!! Living organisms aren’t derived of cells!!!",
">\n\n\nMore than 20 people testified against Senate Bill 235, concerned that it could keep teachers from including gravitational theory, evolution and cell theory in curriculum.\n\nGravitational Theory\nI'm not sure what they are talking about here, because gravity is observable and testable, which means that it could be included in curriculum. it meets the definition of science fact laid out in the bill. This sounds like fear mongering.\nEvolution\nsounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.\nHeres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:\n\nThe latter idea [Darwinian Evolution] was developed at a time when the earliest living cells were considered to be exceedingly simple structures that could subsequently evolve in a Darwinian way. These ideas should of course have been critically examined and rejected after the discovery of the exceedingly complex molecular structures involved in proteins and in DNA. But this did not happen.\nThe transformation of an ensemble of appropriately chosen biological monomers (e.g. amino acids, nucleotides) into a primitive living cell capable of further evolution appears to require overcoming an information hurdle of superastronomical proportions (Appendix A), an event that could not have happened within the time frame of the Earth except, we believe, as a miracle\n\nalthough to be technical, schools teach molecular evolution and darwinian evolution blended together, and these are very different topics, but they are not differentiated to the students. all that \"primordial soup\" nonsense is not darwinian evolution, its molecular evolution, and it definitely should not be taught, because its highly inaccurate and nothing we understand about biochem suppports it.\ncell theory\nagain this is testable and observable so it qualifies to be taught under the bill. more fear mongering.",
">\n\n\nsounds like this bill is designed to kill teaching evolution. but that may be a valid effort.\n\nThat's as valid as killing the teaching of gravity. Evolution is also repeatedly observable.\n\"Heres what 34 non-christian origins of life researchers wrote about evolution in 2018 in a paper about origins of life research:\"\nNot only were those authors Christian, they were paid to lie by ultraright wing creationist frauds. The lead author, Steele, has been laughed out of the scientific community, and is now claiming that Covid-19 was caused when a meteor crashed into Wuhan.\nGo fuck yourself sideways.",
">\n\n\nEvolution is also repeatedly observable\n\nyour conflating unrelated ideas. you're talking about speciation, which is not the topic here. you're also not up to date on evolutionary science, but thats also another topic.\n\nNot only were those authors Christian, they were paid to lie by ultraright wing creationist frauds. \n\nthis is a lie you made up, which is pathetic, but typical for redditors who are anti science.\n\nand is now claiming that Covid-19 was caused when a meteor crashed into Wuhan.\n\nthis is true, and its looney, but has no bearing on the discussion. this is perfectly in line with his panspermia hypothesis about how virus travel on asteroids. scientists do this all the time to generate attenion to themselves and their work. its a PR stunt, not a sign of mental decline."
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Authorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.
We Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete” | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area."
] |
>
Would Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair. | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”"
] |
>
“I’m turning you into tacos.”
Seems like a line from a low budget horror movie. | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair."
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Starring Danny Trejo. | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie."
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Da fuq am I reading? | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo."
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Taco Tuesday advertising | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?"
] |
>
When asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it” | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising"
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>
When the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand. | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”"
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>
The Real Birria | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand."
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ngl the headline made me laugh | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria"
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>
Thanks for being honest | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh"
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>
They are not rare, they breed like rabbits | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest"
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>
The pygmy goats in question are domestic goats, the result of breeding for selected characteristics. They are not in any way endangered and aren't even listed on the IUCN list.
This is like saying calico Persian cats are rare. Sure, and I wouldn't eat one, but it doesn't effect the World in any significant way if they go extinct. | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest",
">\n\nThey are not rare, they breed like rabbits"
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… but were they good? | [
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">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest",
">\n\nThey are not rare, they breed like rabbits",
">\n\nThe pygmy goats in question are domestic goats, the result of breeding for selected characteristics. They are not in any way endangered and aren't even listed on the IUCN list. \nThis is like saying calico Persian cats are rare. Sure, and I wouldn't eat one, but it doesn't effect the World in any significant way if they go extinct."
] |
>
He must of had a party with that many tacos | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest",
">\n\nThey are not rare, they breed like rabbits",
">\n\nThe pygmy goats in question are domestic goats, the result of breeding for selected characteristics. They are not in any way endangered and aren't even listed on the IUCN list. \nThis is like saying calico Persian cats are rare. Sure, and I wouldn't eat one, but it doesn't effect the World in any significant way if they go extinct.",
">\n\n… but were they good?"
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>
the way "God" intended | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest",
">\n\nThey are not rare, they breed like rabbits",
">\n\nThe pygmy goats in question are domestic goats, the result of breeding for selected characteristics. They are not in any way endangered and aren't even listed on the IUCN list. \nThis is like saying calico Persian cats are rare. Sure, and I wouldn't eat one, but it doesn't effect the World in any significant way if they go extinct.",
">\n\n… but were they good?",
">\n\nHe must of had a party with that many tacos"
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>
Turned them into tacos or put them in tacos. Because one of those things is cooler than the other, but both of those things are still beyond fucked you heartless bastard. I hope someone or something turns you into a burrito. | [
"Rare, shouldn't they be at least medium to be safe for tacos?",
">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest",
">\n\nThey are not rare, they breed like rabbits",
">\n\nThe pygmy goats in question are domestic goats, the result of breeding for selected characteristics. They are not in any way endangered and aren't even listed on the IUCN list. \nThis is like saying calico Persian cats are rare. Sure, and I wouldn't eat one, but it doesn't effect the World in any significant way if they go extinct.",
">\n\n… but were they good?",
">\n\nHe must of had a party with that many tacos",
">\n\nthe way \"God\" intended"
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> | [
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">\n\nI guess alive meats always rare..",
">\n\nFair point.",
">\n\nIt takes more Pygmy goats to feed a crowd than it does regular sized goats. BTW, were they rare because the zoo had only four? Pygmy goats are common in my area.",
">\n\n\nAuthorities alleged that along with the slaying of the goats, Nava engaged in the selling and trading of animals as well. They specifically mentioned that a zebra was traded for tools that were supposedly needed for repairs around the facility, although the tools were never found by authorities. Nava also allegedly gave at least one deer and four rare African Watusi cattle to private citizens. Several other creatures were also missing, including a jaguarundi, a female coyote, 10 specimens of reptiles, a baby macaw, and a red-tailed hawk.\n\nWe Bought a Zoo pt II starring Matt Damon and Danny Trujillo as “Machete”",
">\n\nWould Nava make a nice sized meal for one of their tigers? Seems fair.",
">\n\n“I’m turning you into tacos.” \nSeems like a line from a low budget horror movie.",
">\n\nStarring Danny Trejo.",
">\n\nDa fuq am I reading?",
">\n\nTaco Tuesday advertising",
">\n\nWhen asked for comment, the zoo director stated that “he didn’t want to taco bout it”",
">\n\nWhen the reporter when to dip his chip into the queso the director said “that’s nacho cheese” and slapped it out of his hand.",
">\n\nThe Real Birria",
">\n\nngl the headline made me laugh",
">\n\nThanks for being honest",
">\n\nThey are not rare, they breed like rabbits",
">\n\nThe pygmy goats in question are domestic goats, the result of breeding for selected characteristics. They are not in any way endangered and aren't even listed on the IUCN list. \nThis is like saying calico Persian cats are rare. Sure, and I wouldn't eat one, but it doesn't effect the World in any significant way if they go extinct.",
">\n\n… but were they good?",
">\n\nHe must of had a party with that many tacos",
">\n\nthe way \"God\" intended",
">\n\nTurned them into tacos or put them in tacos. Because one of those things is cooler than the other, but both of those things are still beyond fucked you heartless bastard. I hope someone or something turns you into a burrito."
] |
What the ever-loving fuck. | [] |
>
And these are the few that we hear about. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck."
] |
>
Abate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.
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Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”
“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.
“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.
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The Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military
We should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about."
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It's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, "Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet." | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity."
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Cite this quote please.
Edit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\""
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I can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.
"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.
"It will have to develop them."
Not mine. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited."
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America’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine."
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You don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin."
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No I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this."
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So Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse."
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Of course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market.
Putin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that."
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You think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market."
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They’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol."
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It was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it"
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You can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable."
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Even 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that."
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Fucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not.
It is exactly what happened in Germanys government. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head."
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yep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so? | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government."
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The people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be "too extreme". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be "not extreme enough". | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?"
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The people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\"."
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Corruption is Legal in America | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero."
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Abate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.
These traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.
The US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America"
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Some promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines.
The story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?
Something smells fishy. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies."
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I just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right? | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy."
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Ideally with the traditional punishment. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?"
] |
>
Wow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment."
] |
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I would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable."
] |
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Both of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing."
] |
>
I have Grassley and Ernst.
I do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard."
] |
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Grassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks."
] |
>
Take a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country."
] |
>
WtactualF?
“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”
“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.
“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”
You’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore."
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He shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes."
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Others would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old"
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I'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine."
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If true, this is fucking nuts | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized."
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Trump is still a free man. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts"
] |
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Well, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man."
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I'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet."
] |
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I'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials."
] |
>
W probably wouldn't care either. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other."
] |
>
It was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government.
So yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests.
Its bad. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either."
] |
>
Hi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.
It’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?
Meanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.
I’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.
But it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad."
] |
>
I’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.
It's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed."
] |
>
And Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…
You can’t make this shit up.
Also, two of them were promoted after being reassigned. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department."
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WTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned."
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I’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB."
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Failing upward. The older I get, the more I see it. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test."
] |
>
So many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges.
I hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it."
] |
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Nothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far."
] |
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Our government is corrupt to the core.
Apparently it's also corrupt to the corps. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core."
] |
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It’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to
Command the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡 | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps."
] |
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Marines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy.
Scary AF that they do NOT get this. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡"
] |
>
Well, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this."
] |
>
I’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about."
] |
>
Precisely.
Canada and the US are neighbours.
“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”
Pierre Trudeau | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup."
] |
>
A Canadian commenter mentioned "closeted Americans" in their provincial govt.
A hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau"
] |
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I don't understand. What is you mean to say? | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference."
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Cool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel” | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?"
] |
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There needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”"
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The NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug."
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Capital riot
Not "riot", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke"
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“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator."
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"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection."
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Don’t catch you slippin’ now | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.",
">\n\nThis is America"
] |
>
The military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.",
">\n\nThis is America",
">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now"
] |
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Indeed. And it was from the top down:
On November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.
On Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6
Miller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:
*DCNG may not be "issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.
*DCNG would not be allowed to "interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.
*DCNG would not be allowed to "employ any riot control agents" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.
*DCNG would not be allowed "to share equipment with law enforcement agencies" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.
*DCNG couldn't "use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets" or "conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.
*DCNG couldn't "employ helicopters or any other air assets" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.
*DCNG couldn't "conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.
*DCNG can't "seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.
So let's be clear:
Acting Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection.
This was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.
Still shocking it's not a bigger story. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.",
">\n\nThis is America",
">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now",
">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure"
] |
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These people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells. | [
"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.",
">\n\nThis is America",
">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now",
">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure",
">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story."
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"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.",
">\n\nThis is America",
">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now",
">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure",
">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.",
">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells."
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"What the ever-loving fuck.",
">\n\nAnd these are the few that we hear about.",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nㅤ\n\nCoomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.\nㅤ\nㅤ\n\nㅤ\n\nThe Pentagon’s efforts are now being impeded by congressional Republicans, who are seeking to block initiatives to oust right-wing radicals from the military\n\nWe should probably stop expecting our institutions to steer us back towards sanity.",
">\n\nIt's what Putin wanted and probably what he meant when he said, \"Americas already lost, they just don't see it yet.\"",
">\n\nCite this quote please.\nEdit- we take as disinformation all that cannot be cited.",
">\n\nI can't cite that quote, or this one; I just wanted to contribute.\n\"America lacks the tools to deal with the kind of organized disinformation the Russians have been used to for decades.\n\"It will have to develop them.\"\nNot mine.",
">\n\nAmerica’s institutional rot is decades in the making and has nothing to do with Putin.",
">\n\nYou don't think it has anything to do with the KGB at all?? They knew they couldn't beat us in traditional warfare so they shifted their tactics. Pretty sure there's articles and a YouTube video explaining this.",
">\n\nNo I don’t believe an organisation that hasn’t existed for 32 years has anything to do with American institutional collapse.",
">\n\nSo Putin who is ex KGB isn't infiltrating and influencing American politics with disinformation with groups like the NRA? We've had politicians now saying Ukrainian land belongs to Russia... I have to disagree with you. I have thought we've been breaking down for decades too but there has to be a driving force behind that.",
">\n\nOf course Putin is doing that too. However, the reality is that the breaking down of American institutions is caused by the economy. Ever since NAFTA, average normal Americans have been becoming poorer. Manufacturing has died out and the 2008 financial crisis destroyed the housing market. \nPutin has just been helping out the fire that already exists. In my opinion the US would not fundamentally be too different if Putin had done nothing. America has mainly fucked itself by deregulating and with a obsession with the free market.",
">\n\nYou think NAFTA caused that? Do explain lol.",
">\n\nThey’re definitely preparing for a Part 2 and I’m not looking forward to it",
">\n\nIt was an extreme blunder for the secessionists, who fought for the right to own people, to be allowed to reintegrate back into society without holding them all accountable.",
">\n\nYou can blame Lincoln's VP and Ulysses S. Grant for that.",
">\n\nEven 100 years ago the left was trying to reach across the aisle and ended with the President having a hole in the back of his head.",
">\n\nFucking Nazis all over again and Im tired of being told it’s not. \nIt is exactly what happened in Germanys government.",
">\n\nyep. and we're all sitting around watching it calmly unfold. isn't it clear at this point that those in power who are supposed to protect us from this threat have no intention of doing so?",
">\n\nThe people in power do what their voters want them to do. Most Americans don't want to acknowledge a problem. Democrats get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"too extreme\". Meanwhile, Republicans get voted out of office every time they're seen to be \"not extreme enough\".",
">\n\nThe people in power largely do what rich people want, not voters. The impact of average voters on policy is practically zero.",
">\n\nCorruption is Legal in America",
">\n\n\nAbate and Hellonen also received promotions in rank following the Capitol riot, according to the Corps.\n\nThese traitorous soldiers got promotions after attempting to install a dictator, while patriot Vindman got denied a promotion and forced into retirement.\nThe US military has some fucked up fascist tendencies.",
">\n\nSome promotions are automatic. However, I'm confused. There's no mention of any Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) charges against the Marines. \nThe story also mentions that several other active duty military members in intelligence fields were also present on 6 Jan. Where are they now?\nSomething smells fishy.",
">\n\nI just asked in regards to conduct unbecoming. This seems to fit that bill, right?",
">\n\nIdeally with the traditional punishment.",
">\n\nWow this is definitely something I am writing my senators about. This is completely unacceptable.",
">\n\nI would write mine, but he's a Republican traitor, so pretty sure he's not going to do a fucking thing.",
">\n\nBoth of my Senators are GOP cucks. They go by the names Rick Scott and Marco Rubio. I wish FL didn't suck so hard.",
">\n\nI have Grassley and Ernst.\nI do hope they strip our first status away from us despite how much money that will cost our state. However, I think a lot of that money as fueled a very incompetent IDP. Maybe with less spotlight and pressure on the state, people will engage more rather than bunker down from the avalanche of phone calls, texts, and door knocks.",
">\n\nGrassley is such a piece of shit. So bad for the state and country.",
">\n\nTake a look at Louis DeJoy. Look at the man selected by Trump that ripped sorting machines from many post offices with the intent to affect the outcome of the election. This man ripped up thousands of the blue heavy metal mail boxes throughout the U.S. This sorry evil piece of crap is still Postmaster General. Nothing surprises me anymore.",
">\n\nWtactualF?\n“Coomer had posted photos from inside the Capitol on January 6 to his personal account, with the caption: “Glad to be apart [sic] of history.” In a separate Instagram conversation on January 31, 2021, Coomer said that “everything in this country is corrupt. We honestly need a fresh restart. I’m waiting for the boogaloo.”\n“What’s a boogaloo,” the user he was talking to asked, according to the government’s complaint.\n“Civil war 2,” Coomer replied.”\nYou’d think that would prohibit them from getting many jobs in the private sector, but for that to come up in a background check for the the US intelligence agency and that’s just fine? That’s the kind of chatter the NSA is listening in on, right? Clearly just for recruitment purposes.",
">\n\nHe shouldn't be eligible to be a marine just because he spells like a five year old",
">\n\nOthers would say that’s exactly what qualifies him to be a Marine.",
">\n\nI'm sorry but how the hell were they not immeditiately court martialed and drummed out with full dishonorable discharge from the Marines for conduct unbecoming? They broke their oath to defend the constitution and actively impeded congress from fulfill its Consitutional duty. Same applies for all active and former military personelle that day who invaded Congress: they should be stripped of any and all benefits from military service, and or be recalled to active service and courtmartialed and dishonorable discharged with all their medals and honors seized.",
">\n\nIf true, this is fucking nuts",
">\n\nTrump is still a free man.",
">\n\nWell, of course he is. Garland hasn't even brought an indictment yet.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for Nixon, Reagan and W's trials.",
">\n\nI'm sure Nixon and Reagan don't care one way or the other.",
">\n\nW probably wouldn't care either.",
">\n\nIt was a planned attempt to overthrow us democracy. It wasn't a bunch of yahoos showing up and rioting. It was carefully timed and planned and involved many people who were and still are involved in the federal government. \nSo yeah this isn't surprising. They rearranged the march so that it would occur before the vote so trump could give the speech. They delayed the military response from the national guard. Several capitol police allowed them in. They were all allowed to leave instead of mass arrests. \nIts bad.",
">\n\nHi. Retired AF officer, who has held some clearances in the past.\nIt’s fucking INEXCUSABLE some fucking NCO participated in an attempted overthrow of the government of the United States and was not only not frog marched off base and kicked out with a DD, but, placed in a highly sensitive position at Ft Meade?\nMeanwhile if they find THC in your piss, you’re not only NOT getting a clearance, you’re getting kicked out.\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\nBut it needs to be investigated and some people need to be made unemployed.",
">\n\n\nI’m not sure who does security screening for the Marines, NCIS, FBI, NIS etc.\n\nIt's FBI for security clearances - not sure the specific branch/department.",
">\n\n\nAnd Cpl. Micah Coomer was assigned to…\n\nYou can’t make this shit up.\nAlso, two of them were promoted after being reassigned.",
">\n\nWTF! Should be in Leavenworth DB.",
">\n\nI’d say investigate the people that put them in those positions cuz it don’t pass the smell test.",
">\n\nFailing upward. The older I get, the more I see it.",
">\n\nSo many previously reasonable high school friends went into the military decades ago and I just didn’t know them anymore when they got out. My Facebook feed was filled with tons of crazy conspiracy theories and Hillary is the Devil posts until I just had to start blocking them all and burning all those bridges. \nI hope we can get some sort of grip on the right-wing propaganda machine that so many gullible people get sucked in and brainwashed by. It’s gone way too far.",
">\n\nNothing surprises me about this country any longer. Our government is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\n\nOur government is corrupt to the core.\n\nApparently it's also corrupt to the corps.",
">\n\nIt’s cool, Charles Flynn, brother of insurrectionist and Russian agent Michael Flynn, got promoted to\nCommand the Pacific fleet after the insurrection where he withheld military response to the insurrection... No penalties. 🤡",
">\n\nMarines MUST be better than this. Their job is to protect the left and the right. Americans and democracy. \nScary AF that they do NOT get this.",
">\n\nWell, they're not. What's your plan? This is your own military we're talking about.",
">\n\nI’m fully aware-but they aren’t planning a coup.",
">\n\nPrecisely.\nCanada and the US are neighbours.\n“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”\nPierre Trudeau",
">\n\nA Canadian commenter mentioned \"closeted Americans\" in their provincial govt. \nA hilarious and not-so-hilarious reference.",
">\n\nI don't understand. What is you mean to say?",
">\n\nCool cool. Give them “spy jobs” and send them in to Russia to “gather intel”",
">\n\nThere needs to be investigation into this, as other commentators have said some promotions are automatic, but im curious about the lack of UCMJ proceedings from the Marine Corps. I want to know if this was a unwitting appointment by the Marine Corps or if they had known what these Marines had done and attempted to sweep it under the rug.",
">\n\nThe NSA hired a traitor? This country is a joke",
">\n\n\nCapital riot\n\nNot \"riot\", Insurrection. There was a coordinated seditious conspiracy to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install trump as an authoritarian dictator.",
">\n\n“Capitol Riot” is what it was called before there was sufficient evidence to call it an insurrection. Now that the evidence has been meticulously laid out and made public, the history books will know it as the January 6th Insurrection.",
">\n\nThis is America",
">\n\nDon’t catch you slippin’ now",
">\n\nThe military was involved in the coup plot. One of the greatest failings of the jan. 6th committe was in failing to investigate the entirety of the plot only focusing on trump. Which ironically has made it tougher to prosecute Trump, yes they don't do the actual prosecution but elements of the fbi and doj were also involved in the plot so they're not gonna move to prosecute their own unless there's public pressure",
">\n\nIndeed. And it was from the top down:\nOn November 9, 2020, just six days after he lost the 2020 Presidential election, Trump fired Mark Esper and named Chris Miller the Acting Secretary of Defense.\nOn Jan 4th, 2021, just 2 days before the attack, that same Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, released a detailed memo requiring his “personal authorization” for DC National Guard to deploy, to employ weapons, riot control agents & other tactics at Jan. 6\nMiller's Memo SPECIFICALLY STATED:\n*DCNG may not be \"issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor\" ... so they can't have any weapons or armor, which they might need in case of a riot.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"interact physically with protestors, except when necessary in self-defense or defense with others\" ... so they would not be allowed to in ANY WAY prevent the insurrectionists from, say, storming the Capitol.\n*DCNG would not be allowed to \"employ any riot control agents\" ... so they'd get no pepper spray or water cannons or shields or rubber bullets.\n*DCNG would not be allowed \"to share equipment with law enforcement agencies\" ... so DCNG, which had armor and riot control agents it couldn't use, couldn't give any of that to DC police or Capitol Police or Maryland's National Guard.\n*DCNG couldn't \"use Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) assets\" or \"conduct ISR or Incident, Awareness, and Assessment activities\" ... so they couldn't try to find out what was going on beyond what they could immediately see.\n*DCNG couldn't \"employ helicopters or any other air assets\" ... so, again, they couldn't get eyes above the city to see what was happening, or to move troops people rapidly around.\n*DCNG couldn't \"conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity\" Military forces usually can't do law enforcement, but Miller's telling them they can't even detain insurrectionist terrorists. Have to just let them do what they do.\n*DCNG can't \"seek support from any non-DCNG National Guard units\" ... so they couldn't ask Maryland or Virginia National Guard (which didn't have these restrictions) to help them.\nSo let's be clear:\nActing Secretary of Defense Miller put out a memo on Jan 4 - ORDERING THE DC NATIONAL GUARD TO DO NOTHING on Jan 6, and denied them ANY possibility of being able to respond to Trump's upcoming insurrection. \nThis was after the FBI and other intelligence agencies informed Miller about multiple right-wing terrorist organizations planning to riot in DC on Jan 6.\nStill shocking it's not a bigger story.",
">\n\nThese people should be in Guantanamo for treason. In unmarked cells.",
">\n\nNo; they should be in regular federal prisons or supermax, and Guantanamo Bay should be shut down."
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