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> We could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea" ]
> It doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently" ]
> Seems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists" ]
> Bro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan" ]
> Italy woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China.
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh." ]
>
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.", ">\n\nItaly woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China." ]
> …..no..
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.", ">\n\nItaly woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China.", ">" ]
> You you refer to South Korea as dae-han-min-guk ? Or Germany as Deutschland? Otherwise stfu
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.", ">\n\nItaly woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China.", ">", ">\n\n…..no.." ]
> The UN has multiple languages. English does not have umlauts. So this literally can't be represented in English. Also what do you call the large archipelago nation east of China? Because unless it's Nihon, it's wrong. Most countries use different versions or exonyms because the language they use can't well denote the country name.
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.", ">\n\nItaly woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China.", ">", ">\n\n…..no..", ">\n\nYou you refer to South Korea as dae-han-min-guk ? Or Germany as Deutschland? Otherwise stfu" ]
> Yeah nah, we don't even have the ü in our alphabet. There are tons of countries we don't even call by their Native name. Germany, Japan, China, Korea and India come to mind.
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.", ">\n\nItaly woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China.", ">", ">\n\n…..no..", ">\n\nYou you refer to South Korea as dae-han-min-guk ? Or Germany as Deutschland? Otherwise stfu", ">\n\nThe UN has multiple languages. English does not have umlauts. So this literally can't be represented in English. Also what do you call the large archipelago nation east of China? Because unless it's Nihon, it's wrong. Most countries use different versions or exonyms because the language they use can't well denote the country name." ]
>
[ "I prefer chicken myself", ">\n\nComedy (you get my upvote)", ">\n\nIt’s leviosa, not leviossahh", ">\n\nYeah, whatever. Call me when you acknowledge the Armenian genocide.", ">\n\nIt’s “regional conflict” not “we wanted to commit ethnic cleansing”", ">\n\nInvited for tea", ">\n\nOh god what’s in the tea", ">\n\nWe could ask the Armenians, I heard they like bullets in their tea apparently", ">\n\nIt doesn't fucking matter. You're literally just appeasing the ego of irredentists", ">\n\nSeems kinda weird that we have to call them by their Turkish language name. Most countries names are spelled and pronounced differently depending on the language. We don’t call Japan Nippon or India Hindustan", ">\n\nBro I cant evenn spel in Engilsh.", ">\n\nItaly woke up was Hungary ate Turkey slipped on Greece and broke China.", ">", ">\n\n…..no..", ">\n\nYou you refer to South Korea as dae-han-min-guk ? Or Germany as Deutschland? Otherwise stfu", ">\n\nThe UN has multiple languages. English does not have umlauts. So this literally can't be represented in English. Also what do you call the large archipelago nation east of China? Because unless it's Nihon, it's wrong. Most countries use different versions or exonyms because the language they use can't well denote the country name.", ">\n\nYeah nah, we don't even have the ü in our alphabet. There are tons of countries we don't even call by their Native name. Germany, Japan, China, Korea and India come to mind." ]
Do politicians care what constituents think anymore?
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> Only during election season.
[ "Do politicians care what constituents think anymore?" ]
> By Arthur Delaney A group of several dozen residents from New York’s 3rd Congressional District traveled to Washington on Tuesday to call for their congressman, Republican Rep. George Santos, to resign or be expelled from the House of Representatives. “Santos has admitted his lies. Every day the press uncovers more lies,” Jody Kass Finkel, the founder of a group called Concerned Citizens of NY-03, said at a press conference outside the Capitol. “Santos is a grifter, and now he’s grifting his way toward a congressperson’s salary of $174,000 and benefits.” After winning his election in November, Santos confirmed that he had lied about countless aspects of his personal biography, including his academic credentials, his work history and his ancestry. Santos has already stepped down from House committee assignments as controversy swirls around him. Finkel and several members of her group said House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should hold a vote to expel Santos from the chamber. Read more: huffpost.com/entry/george-santos-expel-house_n_63e29a78e4b01a43639792ca
[ "Do politicians care what constituents think anymore?", ">\n\nOnly during election season." ]
> They should stand near his car and heckle him every day
[ "Do politicians care what constituents think anymore?", ">\n\nOnly during election season.", ">\n\nBy Arthur Delaney\nA group of several dozen residents from New York’s 3rd Congressional District traveled to Washington on Tuesday to call for their congressman, Republican Rep. George Santos, to resign or be expelled from the House of Representatives.\n“Santos has admitted his lies. Every day the press uncovers more lies,” Jody Kass Finkel, the founder of a group called Concerned Citizens of NY-03, said at a press conference outside the Capitol. “Santos is a grifter, and now he’s grifting his way toward a congressperson’s salary of $174,000 and benefits.”\nAfter winning his election in November, Santos confirmed that he had lied about countless aspects of his personal biography, including his academic credentials, his work history and his ancestry.\nSantos has already stepped down from House committee assignments as controversy swirls around him. Finkel and several members of her group said House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should hold a vote to expel Santos from the chamber.\nRead more: huffpost.com/entry/george-santos-expel-house_n_63e29a78e4b01a43639792ca" ]
> If only there was some way his constituents could have avoided this in the first place.
[ "Do politicians care what constituents think anymore?", ">\n\nOnly during election season.", ">\n\nBy Arthur Delaney\nA group of several dozen residents from New York’s 3rd Congressional District traveled to Washington on Tuesday to call for their congressman, Republican Rep. George Santos, to resign or be expelled from the House of Representatives.\n“Santos has admitted his lies. Every day the press uncovers more lies,” Jody Kass Finkel, the founder of a group called Concerned Citizens of NY-03, said at a press conference outside the Capitol. “Santos is a grifter, and now he’s grifting his way toward a congressperson’s salary of $174,000 and benefits.”\nAfter winning his election in November, Santos confirmed that he had lied about countless aspects of his personal biography, including his academic credentials, his work history and his ancestry.\nSantos has already stepped down from House committee assignments as controversy swirls around him. Finkel and several members of her group said House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should hold a vote to expel Santos from the chamber.\nRead more: huffpost.com/entry/george-santos-expel-house_n_63e29a78e4b01a43639792ca", ">\n\nThey should stand near his car and heckle him every day" ]
>
[ "Do politicians care what constituents think anymore?", ">\n\nOnly during election season.", ">\n\nBy Arthur Delaney\nA group of several dozen residents from New York’s 3rd Congressional District traveled to Washington on Tuesday to call for their congressman, Republican Rep. George Santos, to resign or be expelled from the House of Representatives.\n“Santos has admitted his lies. Every day the press uncovers more lies,” Jody Kass Finkel, the founder of a group called Concerned Citizens of NY-03, said at a press conference outside the Capitol. “Santos is a grifter, and now he’s grifting his way toward a congressperson’s salary of $174,000 and benefits.”\nAfter winning his election in November, Santos confirmed that he had lied about countless aspects of his personal biography, including his academic credentials, his work history and his ancestry.\nSantos has already stepped down from House committee assignments as controversy swirls around him. Finkel and several members of her group said House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should hold a vote to expel Santos from the chamber.\nRead more: huffpost.com/entry/george-santos-expel-house_n_63e29a78e4b01a43639792ca", ">\n\nThey should stand near his car and heckle him every day", ">\n\nIf only there was some way his constituents could have avoided this in the first place." ]
a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called "Don't Say Gay" law. This will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.
[]
> What I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech." ]
> Seeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such." ]
> So I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. We all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer. But the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this." ]
> DeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida." ]
> Yeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it." ]
> Reedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?" ]
> Desantis changed the plan because of that. Reedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor. Seems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs." ]
> I don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job." ]
> They're not taking a business. They're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business." ]
> That the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in." ]
> How is it open and shut? You probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction. Reedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. The proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges." ]
> The proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech. The governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board. It's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state." ]
> Excellent point.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court" ]
> Party of small government still hard at work.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point." ]
> Giving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work." ]
> Would make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s" ]
> I'll start drawing the water.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?" ]
> As a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water." ]
> DeSantis; "Best I can do is some culture war bullshit."
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area." ]
> "Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?"
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"" ]
> The legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"" ]
> Their lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win." ]
> Truth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove" ]
> Suck ups
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists." ]
> The framing of this is just wrong.   Last year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to "stop a woke corporation" etc etc. Then the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea. So instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it "Mission Accomplished".   DeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed. Even the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups" ]
> Curious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney." ]
> Do it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration." ]
> OwNiNg tHe LiBs
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss." ]
> deSantis World Boy that would be the shittiest theme park ever
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs" ]
> Disney's new slogan "no taxation without representation!" What? You mean democracy in Florida?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever" ]
> The Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. He's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around "wokeism", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias He appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called "conservative values" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career. In the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to "solve" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?" ]
> Wow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews." ]
> Unrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida." ]
> "Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting..."
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter" ]
> The movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"" ]
> I can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents" ]
> Isn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute." ]
> It almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?" ]
> What happened to small government republicans?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea." ]
> On one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with... On the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power I hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?" ]
> letthemfight.gif
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this." ]
> I know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif" ]
> Disney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis..." ]
> Small government? Interesting.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them." ]
> Disney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting." ]
> That would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see). Disney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank." ]
> they also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this." ]
> What people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. It doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism." ]
> Sanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content." ]
> Remember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? Disney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't" ]
> Close it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy." ]
> Welp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney." ]
> This is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists." ]
> So much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary." ]
> If I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism." ]
> Useless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook." ]
> Desantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?" ]
> So can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh." ]
> No. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no." ]
> Noted.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure." ]
> Can’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted." ]
> Looks like Florida is bad for business.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!" ]
> Man the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business." ]
> Anyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts." ]
> I'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. Easiest money i'd ever make.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year." ]
> This. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make." ]
> Attacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work." ]
> How is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business" ]
> r/Conservative has been very quiet lately…
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes." ]
> Small government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…" ]
> Anyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan." ]
> De Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?" ]
> So what happened to all that small government bullshit?
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!" ]
> Desantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?" ]
> Desantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it." ]
> Disney should leave Florida. Just shut it doors.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it." ]
> Angry elf wants all the power!
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDisney should leave Florida. Just shut it doors." ]
> you don't mess with the mouse. idiots going to get his ass handed to him.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDisney should leave Florida. Just shut it doors.", ">\n\nAngry elf wants all the power!" ]
> This is communist behavior. But we don’t call the republicans a communist cult for some reason. We come up with big words that might be technically correct but it’s easier to just call someone a commie when want to turn a state into Soviet Russia and worship putin. They call you a commie for wanting affordable healthcare.
[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDisney should leave Florida. Just shut it doors.", ">\n\nAngry elf wants all the power!", ">\n\nyou don't mess with the mouse. idiots going to get his ass handed to him." ]
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[ "a bill introduced Monday, as the Republican governor punishes the company over its opposition to the so-called \"Don't Say Gay\" law.\n\nThis will be an interesting fight in court since corporations are legally people and thus have the right to free speech.", ">\n\nWhat I want to know is how they will deal with breaking the original contracts and such.", ">\n\nSeeing the Disney Army At Law deploy will be the most interesting part of this.", ">\n\nSo I’m old enough to remember the SCO lawsuits. It was all fun and games until they decided to go after IBM. Once the Nazgul got mounted up, it was game over. \nWe all know Disney is a Law firm dressed as an entertainment company. Let the FL legislation pass and see what happens next. FA/FO on Disney+ will be a nice past time for the summer.\nBut the reality is it’s just a name change and new board members. So mostly it’s another performance piece by Florida.", ">\n\nDeSantis is hellbent on punishing Disney even if the whole state suffers for it.", ">\n\nYeah wasn't there something about how Florida would have to pay Disney an absurd amount of money if this went through?", ">\n\nReedy Creek is in debt to the county for a billion. If Florida takes it over they assume the debt. So it's costing at least a billion to do this. But, ya know, own the libs.", ">\n\nDesantis changed the plan because of that.\nReedy Creek now remains exactly the same but instead of having its board members be appointed by Disney they are now appointed by the Governor.\nSeems like a cool 'who can pay me the most bribes' kind of job.", ">\n\nI don't understand how that helps solve that. The gov can't just come in and take a business.", ">\n\nThey're not taking a business.\nThey're taking control of jurisdiction the business operates in.", ">\n\nThat the business has had control of since the 60s, and put billions of their own dollars into. To attack the company for free speech. This seems really open and shut, legally. But who knows, with the conservative judges.", ">\n\nHow is it open and shut?\nYou probably live in a county/city/town and pay taxes to that jurisdiction. And, some of those taxes are used to develop the land, and run services in your jurisdiction.\nReedy creek is the same thing for Disney. Disney paid taxes to it and in return got services and infrastructure built. \nThe proposed change is that the people who run this jurisdiction will no longer be appointed by the tax payers of the jurisdiction and will instead be appointed by the state.", ">\n\nThe proposed change is because it was retaliation against Disney for speaking out against the Don't Say Gay bill, and the first amendment protects people from retaliation from the government for free speech.\nThe governor said as much, the legislation to dismantle the special district was targeted at just Disney, not any of the 1000 other special districts in the state, and the new bill will prevent anyone who has theme park experience from serving on the board.\nIt's retaliation, and an easy argument for Disney to make it court", ">\n\nExcellent point.", ">\n\nParty of small government still hard at work.", ">\n\nGiving all the power to one person sounds pretty small to me. /s", ">\n\nWould make Grover Norquist's goal much easier, wouldn't it?", ">\n\nI'll start drawing the water.", ">\n\nAs a Central Florida resident, I would highly prefer Tallahasee to address my raising insurance costs rather than mess with Reedy Creek, which is the best-run municipality in the area.", ">\n\nDeSantis;\n\"Best I can do is some culture war bullshit.\"", ">\n\n\"Also, what if we spend more money to fly more immigrants from red areas - but not in Florida - to blue areas?\"", ">\n\nThe legislature can't just hand over private businesses to the state. If Disney wants to fight this they will win.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers have seen this coming for years, and have probably drawn up all the paperwork they’d ever need. They’re just sitting back, waiting for the moment to put the popcorn on the stove", ">\n\nTruth. What is scary is the legislature voting to give the gov this power at all. Fascists.", ">\n\nSuck ups", ">\n\nThe framing of this is just wrong.\n \nLast year, DeSantis got the legislature to start dissolving Reedy Creek to \"stop a woke corporation\" etc etc.\nThen the Legislature/Governor must have realized that taking on all that debt and pissing off Disney Corporation was a really dumb idea.\nSo instead of dissolving the district, he just added a five person board, changed its name and is trying to call it \"Mission Accomplished\".\n \nDeSantis thought he could take on a woke corporation and has failed.\nEven the conservatives know that DeSantis playing this as a win is baloney.", ">\n\nCurious to see what the reaction will be from Disney. I’d like to see them announce the Florida resident discount will be removed until a new deal can be struck with a future administration.", ">\n\nDo it. That is all. Let them do it. The lost in tourism and taking on nearly a billion in Disney's debt will sure show Disney whose boss.", ">\n\nOwNiNg tHe LiBs", ">\n\ndeSantis World\nBoy that would be the shittiest theme park ever", ">\n\nDisney's new slogan \"no taxation without representation!\"\nWhat? You mean democracy in Florida?", ">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach is perfectly acceptable if it's in the name of maintaining his culture war, he's shown us this time and time again. \nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary platform. He repeats the latest buzz words and truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" like iron handed government overreach if it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his voters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.", ">\n\nWow, those limited-government conservatives are really on a roll in Florida.", ">\n\nUnrelated but this summer Disney is releasing a movie about a brave Princess fighting the Rat King Desanter", ">\n\n\"Hi, I'm Captain America. During World War II we fought fascism with guns and tanks. Today, you can fight by voting...\"", ">\n\nThe movie will have a play set as merch that includes a voter registration form, toy will be free in Florida to residents", ">\n\nI can't claim I know anything about Florida/Disney politics, but for some reason my spidey sense tells me that DeSantis getting ready for the fuck around and find out statute.", ">\n\nIsn’t this the authoritarianism conservatives always talked about?", ">\n\nIt almost seems like companies doing business in Florida is a bad idea.", ">\n\nWhat happened to small government republicans?", ">\n\nOn one hand the mouse is not to be fucked with...\nOn the other, it's completely dystopian that morally dubious international corporations have this much power\nI hope they all spend a lot of time, effort, andoney on this.", ">\n\nletthemfight.gif", ">\n\nI know moving Disney out of Florida isn't a option but seriously how much $ would it take for Disney to buy Fox News, gut it and target people like DeSantis...", ">\n\nDisney has operated in Florida longer than DeSantis has been alive and know his job is temporary. They also have enough money to buy their own country if they wanted to, but they play the long game. They will keep this tied up in courts for the next 4 years until that fat toadstool is gone and then put the squeeze on them.", ">\n\nSmall government? Interesting.", ">\n\nDisney should move DisneyWorld to a different state if that becomes the case. Florida’s economy would tank.", ">\n\nThat would be impossible. Disney World isn't just one small theme park. It's a huge complex of theme parks, water parks, shopping areas, and hotels. This doesn't even count the hidden infrastructure that employees use to support it all (but that guests don't see).\nDisney might be able to recreate Disney World in another state, but it would take decades and billions of dollars. It would be cheaper for Disney to unleash the lawyers and throw their lobbying might around to stop this.", ">\n\nthey also own a fuck ton of media they could use to FINALLY paint republicans in a bad light instead of treating them with kid gloves while they proudly sidle up with facism.", ">\n\nWhat people seem to miss is that controlling the district means controlling the boring stuff like sanitation and utilities. And Disney still pays the bills so it will always have final say. \nIt doesn’t deliver control of what happens at the theme parks or Disney content.", ">\n\nSanitation and utilities are boring untill it isn't", ">\n\nRemember when Marge Simpson criticized Itchy and Scratchy for their violence, so they drew her into a cartoon and made fun of her? \nDisney should do something similar to Little Ronnie. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nClose it up. Let the Karens cry. They will know who to blame, and it isn’t Disney.", ">\n\nWelp time to pack it in and move to another state. Good luck replacing the jobs, taxes and tourists.", ">\n\nThis is what Republicans do when they control everything. This wannabe dictator is trying to make a tropical Hungary.", ">\n\nSo much for denouncing the horrors of socialism.", ">\n\nIf I were Disney I’d move everything to a blue state. DeathSantis only thinks one step ahead. Are people in Florida really that stupid? And people, please STOP vacationing in Florida. Just don’t go there. Hit them in the pocketbook.", ">\n\nUseless politician vs mouse. Who wins ?", ">\n\nDesantis, his nazi police, and his nazi sympathizers in the legislature continue to increase the power of the Florida Reich..... Ugh.", ">\n\nSo can they control what Disney produces or does in the parks themselves? Someone say no.", ">\n\nNo. Governance of a special purpose district all about land use and infrastructure.", ">\n\nNoted.", ">\n\nCan’t wait for the sequel - FIND OUT!", ">\n\nLooks like Florida is bad for business.", ">\n\nMan the State of Freedom has the most spineless legislature this side of an Eastern European, former Soviet satellite state ran by authoritarians and religious nuts.", ">\n\nAnyone wanna take bets on how long it takes for Disney to pull out of Florida completely? My money’s on a year.", ">\n\nI'll happily take that bet with whatever amount you want to wager. \nEasiest money i'd ever make.", ">\n\nThis. People have zero comprehension how much infrastructure is in Florida for this. It is like saying the Federal Gov't will move the capitol from DC - and even that would be less work.", ">\n\nAttacking a business to prove Republicans are pro-business", ">\n\nHow is DeFuckFace assuming all these powers? He seems to think he rules everything from schools to businesses to homes.", ">\n\nr/Conservative has been very quiet lately…", ">\n\nSmall government only works when you do what I want. This message was brought to you by Ron DeSatan.", ">\n\nAnyone else remember in 2020 during the elections all we heard about were how Democrats were Communist trying to take over private companies and making them government-run entities?", ">\n\nDe Santas political rivals are all going to be well funded from here on in!", ">\n\nSo what happened to all that small government bullshit?", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDesantis ain't got a butthole big enough for the size of foot Disney waitin to put in it.", ">\n\nDisney should leave Florida. Just shut it doors.", ">\n\nAngry elf wants all the power!", ">\n\nyou don't mess with the mouse. idiots going to get his ass handed to him.", ">\n\nThis is communist behavior. But we don’t call the republicans a communist cult for some reason. We come up with big words that might be technically correct but it’s easier to just call someone a commie when want to turn a state into Soviet Russia and worship putin. They call you a commie for wanting affordable healthcare." ]
I don't think Brown will need to move to the right any to win reelection, his 2018 reelection was something of an analomy compared to the rest of Ohio elections between 2016 and now (he won reelection by an unusually high point percentage). He's generally acknowledged to have a connection with his state's voters that arguably no other Democrat has duplicated (Tim Ryan came close but ultimately it was an upward battle for him, between it being a midterm with a D president and the state's rightward tilt in recent years). Tester, similarily, has a strong cultural match with his state. While his chances of being defeated are significantly higher than Brown's, he's still not actively disliked in Montana and I imagine he'll be given Biden's blessing to play maverick on certain things to ensure reelection. Manchin is almost certainly a goner in 2024. Last midterm, R's increased their supermajority in the WV legislature, and Manchin is no longer the senate's deciding vote like he was two years ago. I predict he'll lose to Jim Justice by at least five points, no matter what he does.
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> Far as I’m aware he hasn’t announced if he is running in 2024. Personally I think if he does then he thinks he’s got a good shot at winning, and if he retires I guess we know what his internal polling said
[ "I don't think Brown will need to move to the right any to win reelection, his 2018 reelection was something of an analomy compared to the rest of Ohio elections between 2016 and now (he won reelection by an unusually high point percentage). He's generally acknowledged to have a connection with his state's voters that arguably no other Democrat has duplicated (Tim Ryan came close but ultimately it was an upward battle for him, between it being a midterm with a D president and the state's rightward tilt in recent years).\nTester, similarily, has a strong cultural match with his state. While his chances of being defeated are significantly higher than Brown's, he's still not actively disliked in Montana and I imagine he'll be given Biden's blessing to play maverick on certain things to ensure reelection.\nManchin is almost certainly a goner in 2024. Last midterm, R's increased their supermajority in the WV legislature, and Manchin is no longer the senate's deciding vote like he was two years ago. I predict he'll lose to Jim Justice by at least five points, no matter what he does." ]