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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility."
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They know they suck, too. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?"
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As my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too."
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That said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.
So you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure."
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It's also a war against civility and decency. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ."
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Republicans love restricting rights | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency."
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For others.
They see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights"
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Tens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me."
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Why do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?
They get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one.
Anyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away."
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They want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the . | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible."
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Like calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the ."
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Ron DeSantis is a fascist.
He knows this. His party knows this.
Our media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid "side."
We need to label these people for what they are, and most of our "journalism" is entertainment to fuel online arguments. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments."
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More like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too” | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee"
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The Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.
He's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around "wokeism", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias
He appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called "conservative values" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.
In the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to "solve" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”"
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America has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.
They'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.
Or even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews."
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Desantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'."
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That would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.
It is much more tidy to simply say "No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left." | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice."
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Former FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\""
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out."
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DeFascist. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist."
] |
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How can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping?
That sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)... | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable"
] |
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So would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist? | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)..."
] |
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It's also a pathetic publicity stunt. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?"
] |
>
It works for his base. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt."
] |
>
I miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base."
] |
>
Well yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells."
] |
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DeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......
Luckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians."
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It’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible
We need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way."
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DeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job” | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that"
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He's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless "government facilties" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”"
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)
Shortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that "Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer," and he suggested that Disney is a "Corporate lapdog" for "The Democrat machine." DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.
The law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.
We cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5"
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What does “woke” even mean any more? | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect"
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For most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites.
To the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate "White People" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course). | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?"
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That sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course)."
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CRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom."
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Big Rock Candy Mountain is more fun. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain."
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You can sail all around it in big canoe.. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun."
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The whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe.."
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They really have zero intention if running a functioning government …. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes"
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Give a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government …."
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His political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything"
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Every single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch."
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It’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself."
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remember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?
one of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban "latinx" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive
how woke is that?
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording"
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The word "woke" means the same thing to DeSantis as "nazi" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things"
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Folks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like."
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He should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason."
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Why isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?
Wtf is that about? | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval."
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Some other con man already claimed "Make America Florida." | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?"
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This guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\""
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Fascists. The term is facists. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term."
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Good one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists."
] |
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Religion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them."
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It's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws."
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Anyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd? | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi."
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He looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler."
] |
>
I am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign"
] |
>
Don't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them."
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And he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌"
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Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\"."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head."
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it's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far? | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech.",
">\n\nBased DeSantis the G.O.A.T."
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the best governor in U.S. history,
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech.",
">\n\nBased DeSantis the G.O.A.T.",
">\n\nAnd he's absolutely the best governor in U.S. history, changed Florida from purple, to blood red....hopefully more states follow suit!"
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech.",
">\n\nBased DeSantis the G.O.A.T.",
">\n\nAnd he's absolutely the best governor in U.S. history, changed Florida from purple, to blood red....hopefully more states follow suit!",
">\n\n\nthe best governor in U.S. history,\n\nWhy?"
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Let's hope trump keeps doing what he does and keep the attention on himself next election. Cause if we're not careful, DeSantis WILL be the next president of the US. | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech.",
">\n\nBased DeSantis the G.O.A.T.",
">\n\nAnd he's absolutely the best governor in U.S. history, changed Florida from purple, to blood red....hopefully more states follow suit!",
">\n\n\nthe best governor in U.S. history,\n\nWhy?",
">\n\nI thought he was squirting ketchup on the crowd."
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The "Woke" is a false idealogy of being awakened... It's not.
If you want the truth, check out Ken Wilber's AQAL metatheory | [
"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech.",
">\n\nBased DeSantis the G.O.A.T.",
">\n\nAnd he's absolutely the best governor in U.S. history, changed Florida from purple, to blood red....hopefully more states follow suit!",
">\n\n\nthe best governor in U.S. history,\n\nWhy?",
">\n\nI thought he was squirting ketchup on the crowd.",
">\n\nLet's hope trump keeps doing what he does and keep the attention on himself next election. Cause if we're not careful, DeSantis WILL be the next president of the US."
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"I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.",
">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics",
">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.",
">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.",
">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.",
">\n\nHe's a black hole of intellectual humility.",
">\n\nWhy you gotta do black holes like that?",
">\n\nThey know they suck, too.",
">\n\nAs my old science teacher used to say, science never sucks. It's just subject to gravity and pressure.",
">\n\n\nThat said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule.\n\nSo you need at least one person of at least common intelligence on your team, if you're going to try to apply the test to proposals, and push the limits of what is permissible. Checkmate, DeSantis HQ.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against civility and decency.",
">\n\nRepublicans love restricting rights",
">\n\nFor others. \nThey see rights as something for themselves but not for you or me.",
">\n\nTens of millions of them still vote for their own rights to be taken away.",
">\n\nWhy do conservatives need these stupid buzz words?\nThey get hooked on one and that is all you hear for a few months until it dies out and they have to go find the next one. \nAnyone with a brain could see that they are just trying to manipulate the gullible.",
">\n\nThey want to create schema to attack , so they try to create a schema (buzzword) that includes both and . Then the are smeared with the .",
">\n\nLike calling liberals/Dems/Leftists groomers.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is a fascist. \nHe knows this. His party knows this. \nOur media seems to have a problem with labels. The FoxNews culture war shit has a purpose. We keep treating it like it's a valid \"side.\" \nWe need to label these people for what they are, and most of our \"journalism\" is entertainment to fuel online arguments.",
">\n\nFirst amendment for me, not for thee",
">\n\nMore like the following interpretation: “I get to say whatever I want, and you get to say whatever I want, too”",
">\n\nThe Desantis devotees eat this shit up. Flagrant government overreach, censorship and suppression are perfectly acceptable as long as it's in the name of maintaining a culture war and thwarting the ever-woke radical left agenda.\nHe's a demagogue through and through, he panders to conservatives and their culture war with his faux counter-revolutionary bullshit. He repeats the latest buzz words and right wing truisms, he peddles his inflammatory rhetoric around \"wokeism\", he promotes alarmist propaganda, charmlessly entertaining his follower's fears, inciting their outrage, indulging their paranoid delusions and phobias\nHe appeals to their ignorance and they glorify him. This fervent support justifies the passing of discriminatory, suppressive, ambiguously framed legislation that targets certain groups, institutions, communities of people, a better term would be boogeymen. Most of the time it's legislation aimed at some left-wing boogeyman, and legislation that shows Desantis' penchant for abandoning so called \"conservative values\" through the implementation of iron handed, suppressive measures, government overreach, the banning, blacklisting and censoring of information, books and literature, the undermining of our education system, and as long as it means he can stick it to the libs, score points with his mindless supporters or preserve the culture war that's become the foundation for his career.\nIn the end, not only are these kind of excessive government measures justified in the eyes of conservatives, but so are the underlying prejudiced, entitled and chauvinistic attitudes that fuel this movement. They manufacture these problems so that they can justify whatever it might take to \"solve\" them, while it also grants them some affirmation for their rigid, anachronistic worldviews.",
">\n\nAmerica has let me down before, but if 2024 is going to be a referendum on 'wokeness' I can't imagine that playing well nationally for Republicans. DeSantis can't get through a public appearance without mentioning how 'anti-woke' he is every sentence. He's setting himself to be completely unwound on this one thing.\nThey'd basically force wall-to-wall discussion of the term and its definition, and anyone not completely in the looney tank will read it and wonder why they were fighting it at all.\nOr even better, feel like the definition actually applies to them and then they come up with a new term for 'good wokeness'.",
">\n\nDesantis’ lawyers had to define “wokeness” for a lawsuit and they come up with something to the effect of: “Acknowledging that there is systemic injustice in America.” So basically, legally, he has declared that he is against acknowledging systemic injustice.",
">\n\nThat would track then - the GOP, the nature of conservatism, is to stop change. If you acknowledge a problem publicly you need to try and solve it, which usually involves changing something, and that opens up a whole can of worms.\nIt is much more tidy to simply say \"No, there is nothing systemic that needs to change, just a small percentage of troublemakers on the left.\"",
">\n\nFormer FL school employee, glad I left years ago. Married to a teacher and numerous friends and family who are teachers in Florida. He is making it a point to install school board members who agree with his beliefs, right now targeting those who didn't handle the COVID protocols and reopening the way he wanted. Teachers who have classroom libraries are having to upload the names of the books to the state for approval to keep them in the classroom by March (not 100% on the date) or take them out.",
">\n\nIf your political party throws out merch at their press conferences, you're not in a political party, you're in a cult.",
">\n\nDeFascist.",
">\n\nDePlᴏrable",
">\n\nHow can he fight woke if he isn't awake? Is he fighting the woke while sleeping? \nThat sounds like a sleep disorder to mee^(^ow)...",
">\n\nSo would they rather everyone bury heads in sand and be pro Fascist?",
">\n\nIt's also a pathetic publicity stunt.",
">\n\nIt works for his base.",
">\n\nI miss my family and friends in Florida but not the government. Teaching there for 12 years even before he was elected was walking on egg shells.",
">\n\nWell yeah, the free flow of information is anathema to authoritarians.",
">\n\nDeSantis attempted to pass a law that says you can peacefully protest, but if anyone in the group does something illegal, you are also now doing something illegal. So you could have thousands of people peacefully protesting, but one person breaks a window and suddenly everyone is a criminal......\nLuckily the courts have blocked it....like a vast majority of all his legislation ..... It's almost like he doesn't really care if the laws actually are legal because he gets the headlines either way.",
">\n\nIt’s a war to form a dictatorship right as the world & DEF the US needs the most social democratic solutions as the AI Revolution rolls in which if we r under the far right will form the darkest totalitarianism possible \nWe need a global think tank to deal w this new world that will c millions of jobs disappear w new ones that require skills that millions will b too poor to take the time to get plus much more on surveillance & opaqueness in Govt & corporations we can’t have that",
">\n\nDeSantis looks like the type of guy who would tell a homeless person to “just get a job”",
">\n\nHe's the kind of guy who start setting up homeless \"government facilties\" aka tent city detention camps as soon as Trump loses more power and influence.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nShortly before signing the law, DeSantis bragged that \"Disney and other woke corporations won't get away with peddling their unchecked pressure campaigns any longer,\" and he suggested that Disney is a \"Corporate lapdog\" for \"The Democrat machine.\" DeSantis's lieutenant governor even said that the goal is to pressure Disney into changing the content of its First Amendment-protected speech.\nThe law governing the First Amendment rights of teachers and professors is a bit unclear, but DeSantis still managed to violate it The normal rule governing most government employees is that their employer may tell them what they are allowed to say while they are on the job.\nWe cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment - especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges The greatest danger, if DeSantis continues to consolidate power, isn't that he will sign more amateurish laws that are ultimately struck down.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: law^#1 speech^#2 DeSantis^#3 First^#4 court^#5",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nWhat does “woke” even mean any more?",
">\n\nFor most libs it is the knowledge that the USA has not always been kind to minorites. \nTo the conservative right bloviators and such it means you hate \"White People\" and want them dead. (metaphorically speaking of course).",
">\n\nThat sounds more like CRT. I thought wokeness, at least for Conservatives, was about who can use what bathroom.",
">\n\nCRT/Wokeness all part of the same side of Bullshit mountain.",
">\n\nBig Rock Candy Mountain is more fun.",
">\n\nI hear there is a lake of stew and Whisky too,\nYou can sail all around it in big canoe..",
">\n\nThe whole wokenes is such dumb terminology I rather be woke than bd these assholes",
">\n\nThey really have zero intention if running a functioning government ….",
">\n\nGive a Republican voter a free hat and they will vote for anything",
">\n\nHis political strategy of being mean to teachers and trans kids doesn’t play well nationally, and especially with the emerging voting bloc of Gen Z. He also has all the charisma of a boiled potato. 2024 is going to be fun to watch.",
">\n\nEvery single picture of this man looks like he just shit himself. But not a scared shit your self, more like hes surprised and confused that there is shit in his pants. He has to ponder the felling of his shitting himself.",
">\n\nIt’s a war on the opening of the constitution which says that America was founded to establish life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.",
">\n\nremember snarling sarah huckabee sanders, former guy's press secretary?\none of her very first acts as the newly elected governor of alabama was to ban \"latinx\" ~~is banned~~ from all state publications because it is insensitive\nhow woke is that?\nEDIT: clean up wording",
">\n\nAmong other things",
">\n\nThe word \"woke\" means the same thing to DeSantis as \"nazi\" does to Putin, it's literally anything he doesn't like.",
">\n\nFolks, it is not Ron DeSantis! This is coming from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation! They already have the model legislation written and are trying to sell it in southern states now! Read the article in the Guardian. This is not new folks the heritage foundation tried to start this in 2015. I have not found one Democrat that mentioned this in the election. PS this is the reason for the second amendment not because a fat pig loses an election, not because some grown white guy is afraid of a little black kid walking down the street or any other sick reason.",
">\n\nHe should be free to say horrible things, but those who disagree should not be free to express their disapproval.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t anyone talking about his shitty slogan, “Don’t tread on Florida” written in a Star Wars font / style with an alligator as the mascot surrounded by a shitty shape-cloud-formed dust?\nWtf is that about?",
">\n\nSome other con man already claimed \"Make America Florida.\"",
">\n\nThis guy and his administration think the first amendment prohibits people from criticizing him and him administration. There ought to be a word for ignoramuses who firmly agree with that opinion, because ignoramuses is too vague of a term.",
">\n\nFascists. The term is facists.",
">\n\nGood one, although far-righters will call those that criticize and challenge them for their opinions “fascists.” Projection is always a staple for them.",
">\n\nReligion needs to be kept as far away from politics as humanly possible. A magic man in the sky should not dictate how we make our laws.",
">\n\nIt's also a war against equality. DeSantis is a fucking nazi.",
">\n\nAnyone remember a time where politicians weren’t acting like celebrities and grifting off of their position to “govern”? Is he really throwing signed hats into the crowd?",
">\n\nHe looks like a failed attempt at cloning Homelander",
">\n\nFascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler.",
">\n\nIt’s just a marketing campaign",
">\n\nI am pretty sure he knows none of what he has done will hold up in the courts but by then, Florida will be someone else's problem. If he has his way, he will be in the White House by then.",
">\n\nDon't forget the Supreme Court. Alito, Kavanaugh, Covid Barrett, and Thomas are champing at the bit to make something like this case law. And I don't trust that Roberts and Gorsuch would even bother to try to stop them.",
">\n\nRon DeSantis out here pretending to be white.",
">\n\nAnd he has the full support of All of the Legislative Republicans, All of the Florida Judiciary, most of the 11th Circuit, and two thirds of SCOTUS.",
">\n\nIt's also a war FOR white supremacy. He doesn't care much about the first amendment.",
">\n\nCap’n Brunch has been at war with the Constitution since he was cashiered out of the Navy.",
">\n\nno shit? color me not surprised.",
">\n\nThank you",
">\n\nWhy are they always at war with stuff?",
">\n\nNow he’s throwing hats? Huh. Guess he’s just following in his daddy’s footsteps.",
">\n\nWoke culture needs to be canceled👌",
">\n\nDefine it.",
">\n\nFrom wikipedia:\n\nWoke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning \"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination\".",
">\n\nImwas asking what amara definition was. In there head.",
">\n\ni don’t like DeSantis or republicans but wokeness has gone a little too far",
">\n\nit's a made up thing, it doesn't exist so how can it go too far?",
">\n\nHe's not outlawing it, he's making sure woke isn't the only protective speech in the 1st amendment",
">\n\nSCOTUS ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, and that was the more liberal court. Freeways are lined with Jesus billboards. Conservative Christians are not in danger of losing their free speech.",
">\n\nBased DeSantis the G.O.A.T.",
">\n\nAnd he's absolutely the best governor in U.S. history, changed Florida from purple, to blood red....hopefully more states follow suit!",
">\n\n\nthe best governor in U.S. history,\n\nWhy?",
">\n\nI thought he was squirting ketchup on the crowd.",
">\n\nLet's hope trump keeps doing what he does and keep the attention on himself next election. Cause if we're not careful, DeSantis WILL be the next president of the US.",
">\n\nThe \"Woke\" is a false idealogy of being awakened... It's not.\nIf you want the truth, check out Ken Wilber's AQAL metatheory"
] |
How many democrats have shot up republicans again? | [] |
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To be fair there was that baseball shooting. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?"
] |
>
Which Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting."
] |
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I’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this"
] |
>
Yeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible."
] |
>
Oh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too"
] |
>
Stochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP). | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something."
] |
>
I was perfectly happy with just regular IHOP | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something.",
">\n\nStochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP)."
] |
>
Uh, that's the International House of Omelettes, buddy! Come on, get with the 90's!!! LOL! | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something.",
">\n\nStochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP).",
">\n\nI was perfectly happy with just regular IHOP"
] |
>
This is normal now.
There will be no outrage nor condemnation from the GOP, and many will support and defend this behavior, advancing and normalizing this type of political terrorism for future candidates. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something.",
">\n\nStochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP).",
">\n\nI was perfectly happy with just regular IHOP",
">\n\nUh, that's the International House of Omelettes, buddy! Come on, get with the 90's!!! LOL!"
] |
>
What are our friends over in r/conservative saying about it?
Edit. Not a single post about it. But they are going on about abolishing the IRS. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something.",
">\n\nStochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP).",
">\n\nI was perfectly happy with just regular IHOP",
">\n\nUh, that's the International House of Omelettes, buddy! Come on, get with the 90's!!! LOL!",
">\n\nThis is normal now.\nThere will be no outrage nor condemnation from the GOP, and many will support and defend this behavior, advancing and normalizing this type of political terrorism for future candidates."
] |
>
Waiting for MTG and Steve Bannon to claim that if it had been them, they would have finished the job. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something.",
">\n\nStochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP).",
">\n\nI was perfectly happy with just regular IHOP",
">\n\nUh, that's the International House of Omelettes, buddy! Come on, get with the 90's!!! LOL!",
">\n\nThis is normal now.\nThere will be no outrage nor condemnation from the GOP, and many will support and defend this behavior, advancing and normalizing this type of political terrorism for future candidates.",
">\n\nWhat are our friends over in r/conservative saying about it?\nEdit. Not a single post about it. But they are going on about abolishing the IRS."
] |
>
Unfortunately, this "stolen election" mantra that we've been hearing over and over from Trump and nutcases like Kari Lake is starting to have the intended effect.
I sometimes will watch extremely right-leaning "news" shows and listen to these people on talk radio as well. If I truly believed the stuff that was being said, I would probably feel violence was justified as well.
If you're a Democrat, just imagine what you'd be feeling now if Trump was still president after 2020 and your friends, family, and everyone you trusted on TV told you every day, over and over that Biden had really won the election, but evil Republicans stole it from him and gave it to Trump. While this sort of news might not be enough to make you grab a gun and start shooting, you probably wouldn't be surprised that in the face of all this "injustice" and "corruption" that someone else would use violence to fight for the cause. Or you might feel outrage and desperation, and maybe you'd resort to violence to make sure the "other side" doesn't take over.
The GOP talking heads know what they're doing, and they're not going to stop. They have no shame. They want violence to happen and will do whatever they can to make this continue. | [
"How many democrats have shot up republicans again?",
">\n\nTo be fair there was that baseball shooting.",
">\n\nWhich Dems loudly condemned. No Republican that matters will talk about this",
">\n\nI’m not saying it’s the same. Just that it’s not impossible.",
">\n\nYeah don’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s important to recognize it can come from the left but it’s very asymmetrical. Have a great night and always make sure we’re accountable too",
">\n\nOh yeah it’s VERY asymmetric. But only sith deal in absolutes, or something.",
">\n\nStochastic terrorism and let-it-happen-on-purpose (LIHOP) has now led to make-it-happen-on-purpose (MIHOP).",
">\n\nI was perfectly happy with just regular IHOP",
">\n\nUh, that's the International House of Omelettes, buddy! Come on, get with the 90's!!! LOL!",
">\n\nThis is normal now.\nThere will be no outrage nor condemnation from the GOP, and many will support and defend this behavior, advancing and normalizing this type of political terrorism for future candidates.",
">\n\nWhat are our friends over in r/conservative saying about it?\nEdit. Not a single post about it. But they are going on about abolishing the IRS.",
">\n\nWaiting for MTG and Steve Bannon to claim that if it had been them, they would have finished the job."
] |
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