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> The Belarusian army hasn’t gotten involved though, it seems like bringing tens of thousands more soldiers in on Russia’s side and opening another front wouldn’t be worth the benefit of blowing up a handful of aircraft
[ "Russian Su-34 bombers arrived in Belarus in preparation for the so-called joint \"exercises.\" Enemy aircraft are scheduled to stay in Belarus till the end of this month.\nThis was reported by Sputnik Belarus.\n“Russian air departments have started arriving in the country to participate in the exercise since at least January 8. The exercises themselves will take place from January 16 to February 1,\" the report said.\nThe parties say they are going to conduct \"exercises\" to \"increase interoperability during joint performance of combat training missions.\"\nIn addition, the ONT Telegram channel also announced the arrival of Russian bombers in the Republic of Belarus. It is known that all airfields and ranges of the Air Force and air defense forces in Belarus will be involved in the use of aviation.\nAt the same time, the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus cynically states that these \"exercises\" will allegedly not carry \"threats to third countries.\"\nAs Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, on January 16, joint \"exercises\" began in Belarus with Russia.", ">\n\nAnd Ukraine says they're for target practice. Checkmate.", ">\n\nAnother attempt to take air control? Let's see if history repeats itself with every plane that enters Ukrainian airspace get shot down.", ">\n\nThis is how Russia officially takes over Belarus without firing a shot. Sure Putin already controls Belarus for the most part but he will slowly build up forces there and annex it to Russia eventually for a publicity win.", ">\n\nWipe ‘em out on the tarmac ✈️💥", ">\n\nYou want Ukraine to declare war on Belarus?", ">\n\nrussia already flies bombers from Belarus to strike ukraine, so its not like Belarus is outside of the war" ]
> belarus hasnt gotten involved with their army yep, given that they need that to pacify their own country, sending it to ukraine would be bad for them. Ukraine attacking them now wouldnt make much sense as you said.
[ "Russian Su-34 bombers arrived in Belarus in preparation for the so-called joint \"exercises.\" Enemy aircraft are scheduled to stay in Belarus till the end of this month.\nThis was reported by Sputnik Belarus.\n“Russian air departments have started arriving in the country to participate in the exercise since at least January 8. The exercises themselves will take place from January 16 to February 1,\" the report said.\nThe parties say they are going to conduct \"exercises\" to \"increase interoperability during joint performance of combat training missions.\"\nIn addition, the ONT Telegram channel also announced the arrival of Russian bombers in the Republic of Belarus. It is known that all airfields and ranges of the Air Force and air defense forces in Belarus will be involved in the use of aviation.\nAt the same time, the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus cynically states that these \"exercises\" will allegedly not carry \"threats to third countries.\"\nAs Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, on January 16, joint \"exercises\" began in Belarus with Russia.", ">\n\nAnd Ukraine says they're for target practice. Checkmate.", ">\n\nAnother attempt to take air control? Let's see if history repeats itself with every plane that enters Ukrainian airspace get shot down.", ">\n\nThis is how Russia officially takes over Belarus without firing a shot. Sure Putin already controls Belarus for the most part but he will slowly build up forces there and annex it to Russia eventually for a publicity win.", ">\n\nWipe ‘em out on the tarmac ✈️💥", ">\n\nYou want Ukraine to declare war on Belarus?", ">\n\nrussia already flies bombers from Belarus to strike ukraine, so its not like Belarus is outside of the war", ">\n\nThe Belarusian army hasn’t gotten involved though, it seems like bringing tens of thousands more soldiers in on Russia’s side and opening another front wouldn’t be worth the benefit of blowing up a handful of aircraft" ]
> Russia Brings Su-34 Bombers To Belarus And Claims It's For Training (to Bomb Ukraine).
[ "Russian Su-34 bombers arrived in Belarus in preparation for the so-called joint \"exercises.\" Enemy aircraft are scheduled to stay in Belarus till the end of this month.\nThis was reported by Sputnik Belarus.\n“Russian air departments have started arriving in the country to participate in the exercise since at least January 8. The exercises themselves will take place from January 16 to February 1,\" the report said.\nThe parties say they are going to conduct \"exercises\" to \"increase interoperability during joint performance of combat training missions.\"\nIn addition, the ONT Telegram channel also announced the arrival of Russian bombers in the Republic of Belarus. It is known that all airfields and ranges of the Air Force and air defense forces in Belarus will be involved in the use of aviation.\nAt the same time, the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus cynically states that these \"exercises\" will allegedly not carry \"threats to third countries.\"\nAs Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, on January 16, joint \"exercises\" began in Belarus with Russia.", ">\n\nAnd Ukraine says they're for target practice. Checkmate.", ">\n\nAnother attempt to take air control? Let's see if history repeats itself with every plane that enters Ukrainian airspace get shot down.", ">\n\nThis is how Russia officially takes over Belarus without firing a shot. Sure Putin already controls Belarus for the most part but he will slowly build up forces there and annex it to Russia eventually for a publicity win.", ">\n\nWipe ‘em out on the tarmac ✈️💥", ">\n\nYou want Ukraine to declare war on Belarus?", ">\n\nrussia already flies bombers from Belarus to strike ukraine, so its not like Belarus is outside of the war", ">\n\nThe Belarusian army hasn’t gotten involved though, it seems like bringing tens of thousands more soldiers in on Russia’s side and opening another front wouldn’t be worth the benefit of blowing up a handful of aircraft", ">\n\nbelarus hasnt gotten involved with their army yep, given that they need that to pacify their own country, sending it to ukraine would be bad for them. Ukraine attacking them now wouldnt make much sense as you said." ]
> Perfect training for those shiny new Patriot missiles.
[ "Russian Su-34 bombers arrived in Belarus in preparation for the so-called joint \"exercises.\" Enemy aircraft are scheduled to stay in Belarus till the end of this month.\nThis was reported by Sputnik Belarus.\n“Russian air departments have started arriving in the country to participate in the exercise since at least January 8. The exercises themselves will take place from January 16 to February 1,\" the report said.\nThe parties say they are going to conduct \"exercises\" to \"increase interoperability during joint performance of combat training missions.\"\nIn addition, the ONT Telegram channel also announced the arrival of Russian bombers in the Republic of Belarus. It is known that all airfields and ranges of the Air Force and air defense forces in Belarus will be involved in the use of aviation.\nAt the same time, the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus cynically states that these \"exercises\" will allegedly not carry \"threats to third countries.\"\nAs Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, on January 16, joint \"exercises\" began in Belarus with Russia.", ">\n\nAnd Ukraine says they're for target practice. Checkmate.", ">\n\nAnother attempt to take air control? Let's see if history repeats itself with every plane that enters Ukrainian airspace get shot down.", ">\n\nThis is how Russia officially takes over Belarus without firing a shot. Sure Putin already controls Belarus for the most part but he will slowly build up forces there and annex it to Russia eventually for a publicity win.", ">\n\nWipe ‘em out on the tarmac ✈️💥", ">\n\nYou want Ukraine to declare war on Belarus?", ">\n\nrussia already flies bombers from Belarus to strike ukraine, so its not like Belarus is outside of the war", ">\n\nThe Belarusian army hasn’t gotten involved though, it seems like bringing tens of thousands more soldiers in on Russia’s side and opening another front wouldn’t be worth the benefit of blowing up a handful of aircraft", ">\n\nbelarus hasnt gotten involved with their army yep, given that they need that to pacify their own country, sending it to ukraine would be bad for them. Ukraine attacking them now wouldnt make much sense as you said.", ">\n\nRussia Brings Su-34 Bombers To Belarus And Claims It's For Training (to Bomb Ukraine)." ]
>
[ "Russian Su-34 bombers arrived in Belarus in preparation for the so-called joint \"exercises.\" Enemy aircraft are scheduled to stay in Belarus till the end of this month.\nThis was reported by Sputnik Belarus.\n“Russian air departments have started arriving in the country to participate in the exercise since at least January 8. The exercises themselves will take place from January 16 to February 1,\" the report said.\nThe parties say they are going to conduct \"exercises\" to \"increase interoperability during joint performance of combat training missions.\"\nIn addition, the ONT Telegram channel also announced the arrival of Russian bombers in the Republic of Belarus. It is known that all airfields and ranges of the Air Force and air defense forces in Belarus will be involved in the use of aviation.\nAt the same time, the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus cynically states that these \"exercises\" will allegedly not carry \"threats to third countries.\"\nAs Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, on January 16, joint \"exercises\" began in Belarus with Russia.", ">\n\nAnd Ukraine says they're for target practice. Checkmate.", ">\n\nAnother attempt to take air control? Let's see if history repeats itself with every plane that enters Ukrainian airspace get shot down.", ">\n\nThis is how Russia officially takes over Belarus without firing a shot. Sure Putin already controls Belarus for the most part but he will slowly build up forces there and annex it to Russia eventually for a publicity win.", ">\n\nWipe ‘em out on the tarmac ✈️💥", ">\n\nYou want Ukraine to declare war on Belarus?", ">\n\nrussia already flies bombers from Belarus to strike ukraine, so its not like Belarus is outside of the war", ">\n\nThe Belarusian army hasn’t gotten involved though, it seems like bringing tens of thousands more soldiers in on Russia’s side and opening another front wouldn’t be worth the benefit of blowing up a handful of aircraft", ">\n\nbelarus hasnt gotten involved with their army yep, given that they need that to pacify their own country, sending it to ukraine would be bad for them. Ukraine attacking them now wouldnt make much sense as you said.", ">\n\nRussia Brings Su-34 Bombers To Belarus And Claims It's For Training (to Bomb Ukraine).", ">\n\nPerfect training for those shiny new Patriot missiles." ]
I am confused on why this exists
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> Maja V2 - Wooting 60HE - Archetype Minerva - Omen Encoder What kind of keyboard do you use?
[ "I am confused on why this exists" ]
> IC?... or really any specific info whatsoever?
[ "I am confused on why this exists", ">\n\n\nMaja V2 - Wooting 60HE - Archetype Minerva - Omen Encoder\n\nWhat kind of keyboard do you use?" ]
>
[ "I am confused on why this exists", ">\n\n\nMaja V2 - Wooting 60HE - Archetype Minerva - Omen Encoder\n\nWhat kind of keyboard do you use?", ">\n\nIC?... or really any specific info whatsoever?" ]
I wouldn't date someone who lists "clubbing" or "shopping" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. It may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee. But, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!
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> That is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!" ]
> Dating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use "clubbing" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. "shopping" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. Your judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. If long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”." ]
> Some people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off." ]
> thats just sad
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping." ]
> Is it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad" ]
> consumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff." ]
> You know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me" ]
> Someone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol. Liking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights. There are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve "long run" worries Making a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything." ]
> This should be top comment IMO 🙌
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person" ]
> You can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌" ]
> Hoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…" ]
> Wait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship? This is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol." ]
> i got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?" ]
> Were you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked? Congratulations by the way
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder" ]
> i was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way" ]
> i think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met" ]
> I like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion" ]
> I mean there are many counterpoints to your argument 1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing 2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future 3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile." ]
> I agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink" ]
> this is a "personal opinion" not an "unpopular opinion". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait." ]
> Dumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want." ]
> I'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be" ]
> I don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy." ]
> What if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge." ]
> I never understood how "shopping" could be fun in any way. Clubbing on the other hand....
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping." ]
> Only for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand...." ]
> Dudes don't like dancing?!
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes" ]
> We suck at dancing. Lol
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!" ]
> True, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol" ]
> I love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance" ]
> Or you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances. Just because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them. "Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??" You might be jumping the gun a little bit here. But hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings." ]
> I think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be." ]
> Yup , I agree. Taking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options." ]
> Not just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so." ]
> When all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. I know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''." ]
> i mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not" ]
> Clubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. The shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame." ]
> People still go clubbing?
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring." ]
> Makes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?" ]
> I would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag." ]
> Stuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame." ]
> You're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists." ]
> I do this as well, but I didn't consider it something that was unpopular.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.", ">\n\nYou're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least." ]
> i mean is clubbing really expensive? idk i never clubbed.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.", ">\n\nYou're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least.", ">\n\nI do this as well, but I didn't consider it something that was unpopular." ]
> You should not date a financial liability.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.", ">\n\nYou're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least.", ">\n\nI do this as well, but I didn't consider it something that was unpopular.", ">\n\ni mean is clubbing really expensive? idk i never clubbed." ]
> Assuming that shopping means that you gotta pay for another person... yeah. I enjoy shopping, but no partner ever had to pay for me. If they want to spoil me, fine, but I am capable of paying myself. Or waiting for the sales, which makes shopping even more fun.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.", ">\n\nYou're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least.", ">\n\nI do this as well, but I didn't consider it something that was unpopular.", ">\n\ni mean is clubbing really expensive? idk i never clubbed.", ">\n\nYou should not date a financial liability." ]
> It sounds like they are trying to look for someone who is a good romantic match for them. And it sounds like you would not be a good romantic match for them. So by swiping left you are actually doing them a favor. Shopping and clubbing are hobbies. People generally prefer to match with other people whose hobbies overlap with their own.
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.", ">\n\nYou're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least.", ">\n\nI do this as well, but I didn't consider it something that was unpopular.", ">\n\ni mean is clubbing really expensive? idk i never clubbed.", ">\n\nYou should not date a financial liability.", ">\n\nAssuming that shopping means that you gotta pay for another person... yeah. I enjoy shopping, but no partner ever had to pay for me. If they want to spoil me, fine, but I am capable of paying myself. Or waiting for the sales, which makes shopping even more fun." ]
>
[ "I wouldn't date someone who lists \"clubbing\" or \"shopping\" as tags either. But for me, it's because I don't find either of those things interesting, and in fact, as far as descriptors go, a little vapid. \nIt may also indicate poor financial choices, but that's not a guarantee.\nBut, each to their own, they're probably a perfect match for someone else lol. Do you!", ">\n\nThat is also another reason. I have backpacking, hockey, reading and self-development. I think these are a but more interesting but at least not as dry as shopping or clubbing. But this is pretty subjective and I agree with the “each to their own”.", ">\n\nDating is 100% subjective. It's likely they use \"clubbing\" as a tag so they can find someone to enjoy that pastime with. \"shopping\" I find questionable.. more like they had no idea what else to put, which is not appealing. \nYour judgement about their long term financial stability could be right, but could also be wrong. I've known people who would sound very financially sound on paper, but they're up to their neck in debt. \nIf long-term financial instability is a deal-breaker for you then you'll likely have to get to know them or ask some probing questions from the off.", ">\n\nSome people do actually shop to relax. Even if it's window shopping.", ">\n\nthats just sad", ">\n\nIs it though? Some people watch others play sports as a hobby. People enjoy all kinds of stuff.", ">\n\nconsumerism being a hobby is just a sad reflection of where society is. No moral judment, Its just depressing to me", ">\n\nYou know window shopping doesn't actually involve buying anything.", ">\n\nSomeone loving shopping doesn't mean they do it a lot. Just means they like the process or purchasing shit lol.\nLiking to go out can also mean pre gaming with cheap alcohol and going on ladies get in for free nights.\nThere are endless of possibilities that don't involve showing off, splurging on luxury goods, and being a financial liability. You just willingly choose to pick the worst case scenario and rule it as a fact. Also you can't go on tinder and then complain people aren't exactly putting their phd and life goals in the profile, not everyone is there for relationships that involve \"long run\" worries \nMaking a whole bible of assumptions based on tinder tags is weird and says more about you than the other person", ">\n\nThis should be top comment IMO 🙌", ">\n\nYou can enjoy clubbing and shopping whilst also saving earned income and thinking about the future…", ">\n\nHoping for long term relationship on tinder is real unpopular opinion here, lol.", ">\n\nWait people actually going on Tinder in hopes of finding a long-term relationship?\nThis is an actual question, I'm 47 years old and when I dated in past, I always met women the conventional way, never through social media and just thought Tinder was merely for hooking up, am I mistaken?", ">\n\ni got my 7 year old relationship off of tinder", ">\n\nWere you actually looking for a long-term relationship or looking just to hook up but things clicked?\nCongratulations by the way", ">\n\ni was looking for anything really,was just a really lonely person lul just happened to click once we met", ">\n\ni think this is just a saying preference, not really an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nI like this because not only do you avoid people you might not hit it off with, but you’re also helping those people avoid someone who’s shallow enough to dismiss prospective mates over a blip on their dating profile.", ">\n\nI mean there are many counterpoints to your argument\n1) you are assuming the person would expect you to pay for their shopping/clubbing\n2) people can enjoy shopping/clubbing and still save and think about the future\n3) not everyone who goes to clubs drink, I know plenty who just enjoy the atmosphere and having a fun night out and never drink", ">\n\nI agree with your title but your full reasoning tells me you're probably someone obsessed with money and a complete tightwad. Which in my opinion is an even worse personality trait.", ">\n\nthis is a \"personal opinion\" not an \"unpopular opinion\". you're allowed to date whoever you want; others can date whoever they want.", ">\n\nDumb, can't a personal opinion be unpopular? Of course it can be", ">\n\nI'm not so sure this is an unpopular opinion. It is, however, a prudent strategy.", ">\n\nI don't know about other people, but I love clubbing. I rarely drink while I'm out cause I don't need to to have fun and frankly don't consider it safe. On nights I go clubbing the only money I usually spend is on the cover charge.", ">\n\nWhat if they just list shopping but not clubbing? Hell I get enjoyment out of grocery shopping.", ">\n\nI never understood how \"shopping\" could be fun in any way.\nClubbing on the other hand....", ">\n\nOnly for girls. Clubbing ain’t fun for dudes", ">\n\nDudes don't like dancing?!", ">\n\nWe suck at dancing. Lol", ">\n\nTrue, I totally suck at dancing but sometimes I like it regardless of my performance", ">\n\nI love to shop and go out for fancy meals very often, and I still make more than I spend. But thankfully I married someone with the same interests. You have a right to like the same things as the person you date and have things in common. But don’t assume that those interests automatically equate to being smart or poor with savings.", ">\n\nOr you could accept that their finances are their finances and your finances are your finances.\nJust because you start dating doesn't mean these things have to overlap, and there's no indication that this behavior is long term behavior by them.\n\"Well, you like to go out to clubs now, so if we stay together and get married and have a kid, who's gonna take care of the baby when you're out at the club all the time??\"\nYou might be jumping the gun a little bit here.\nBut hey, it's your life. You're free to be as picky and judgemental as you wish to be.", ">\n\nI think it'd be hard for a relationship to have any realistic future if financial goals don't align. And dating someone with the hope that they'll change eventually is also a bad idea. It's possible it would work out, but it would probably only be worth the time if there are no other options.", ">\n\nYup , I agree. \nTaking chances on somebody changing in the future is a big risk and I do not see the benefit of doing so.", ">\n\nNot just expensive, but how boring can you be if an actual highlighted interest is ''buying stuff''.", ">\n\nWhen all they show is pictures of them in clubs/parties or on vacation in different places I know they probably have little to no savings, live at home or with financial help and also live a life I cannot keep up with both financially and mentally. \nI know you can't judge a book by it's cover but you can get a good grasp of the content and if it's for you or not", ">\n\ni mean the potential expense issue is greatly shadowed by the issue of them being basic and lame.", ">\n\nClubbing isn't really a high-earners only kind of thing. You don't need to be in the 1% to go clubbing (especially as a woman since people will buy you drinks just for existing and being attractive), nor does it mean that person goes clubbing every weekend, it's probably just something they enjoy. \nThe shopping thing is weird to me (in fact I recently had a whole thread about how consumerism as a hobby is weird in r/unpopularopinion, which apparently a lot of people disagreed with). If your main way of getting entertainment is just spending money on stuff it makes you sound really boring.", ">\n\nPeople still go clubbing?", ">\n\nMakes sense. The same goes for “travel”, some sort of interest in cars or motorcycles too. That and “boating”, is a red flag.", ">\n\nI would just swipe left because that’s really sad. Your whole personality is drinking and grinding on strangers and buying things? That’s just lame.", ">\n\nStuff like that is why Seeking Arrangement exists.", ">\n\nYou're worried about it being financially draining? To each their own and all but, if your hobbies are clubbing or shopping, you're in your late teens or early twenties, and most of the time, the conversation will be exhausting, to say the least.", ">\n\nI do this as well, but I didn't consider it something that was unpopular.", ">\n\ni mean is clubbing really expensive? idk i never clubbed.", ">\n\nYou should not date a financial liability.", ">\n\nAssuming that shopping means that you gotta pay for another person... yeah. I enjoy shopping, but no partner ever had to pay for me. If they want to spoil me, fine, but I am capable of paying myself. Or waiting for the sales, which makes shopping even more fun.", ">\n\nIt sounds like they are trying to look for someone who is a good romantic match for them. And it sounds like you would not be a good romantic match for them. So by swiping left you are actually doing them a favor.\nShopping and clubbing are hobbies. People generally prefer to match with other people whose hobbies overlap with their own." ]
When the current regime is toppled he should be one of the first to be put on trial and punished.
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> live by the sword...
[ "When the current regime is toppled he should be one of the first to be put on trial and punished." ]
> As a young prosecutor in Tehran, Ebrahim Raisi sat on a "death committee" overseeing the execution of hundreds of political prisoners in the Iranian capital, rights groups say. Now as president three decades later, four people have been hanged after being convicted on charges related to popular unrest that erupted in September over the death in police custody of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Kurdish Iranian woman. The executions triggered condemnation from Europe and the United States, but Raisi has insisted "identification, trial and punishment" of all those who authorities believe were involved in violence will continue. Read the full story for more information.
[ "When the current regime is toppled he should be one of the first to be put on trial and punished.", ">\n\nlive by the sword..." ]
> Believing means not knowing. Therefore, everything that is not based on facts has an uncertain future.
[ "When the current regime is toppled he should be one of the first to be put on trial and punished.", ">\n\nlive by the sword...", ">\n\nAs a young prosecutor in Tehran, Ebrahim Raisi sat on a \"death committee\" overseeing the execution of hundreds of political prisoners in the Iranian capital, rights groups say.\nNow as president three decades later, four people have been hanged after being convicted on charges related to popular unrest that erupted in September over the death in police custody of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Kurdish Iranian woman. The executions triggered condemnation from Europe and the United States, but Raisi has insisted \"identification, trial and punishment\" of all those who authorities believe were involved in violence will continue.\nRead the full story for more information." ]
> so the chief murderer of the religious nutcases? Got it.
[ "When the current regime is toppled he should be one of the first to be put on trial and punished.", ">\n\nlive by the sword...", ">\n\nAs a young prosecutor in Tehran, Ebrahim Raisi sat on a \"death committee\" overseeing the execution of hundreds of political prisoners in the Iranian capital, rights groups say.\nNow as president three decades later, four people have been hanged after being convicted on charges related to popular unrest that erupted in September over the death in police custody of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Kurdish Iranian woman. The executions triggered condemnation from Europe and the United States, but Raisi has insisted \"identification, trial and punishment\" of all those who authorities believe were involved in violence will continue.\nRead the full story for more information.", ">\n\nBelieving means not knowing.\n Therefore, everything that is not based on facts has an uncertain future." ]
>
[ "When the current regime is toppled he should be one of the first to be put on trial and punished.", ">\n\nlive by the sword...", ">\n\nAs a young prosecutor in Tehran, Ebrahim Raisi sat on a \"death committee\" overseeing the execution of hundreds of political prisoners in the Iranian capital, rights groups say.\nNow as president three decades later, four people have been hanged after being convicted on charges related to popular unrest that erupted in September over the death in police custody of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Kurdish Iranian woman. The executions triggered condemnation from Europe and the United States, but Raisi has insisted \"identification, trial and punishment\" of all those who authorities believe were involved in violence will continue.\nRead the full story for more information.", ">\n\nBelieving means not knowing.\n Therefore, everything that is not based on facts has an uncertain future.", ">\n\nso the chief murderer of the religious nutcases? Got it." ]
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> Ismo? I can't load the video.
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans." ]
> The one and only Ismo
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video." ]
> The hot shit! I've a lot of time for his shit.
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video.", ">\n\nThe one and only Ismo" ]
> I was just reading another sub where someone said a TV show was "the shits". I still have no idea if they liked it or not.
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video.", ">\n\nThe one and only Ismo", ">\n\nThe hot shit!\nI've a lot of time for his shit." ]
> Kind of like the joke: You da bomb! A compliment in America. An argument in Iraq
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video.", ">\n\nThe one and only Ismo", ">\n\nThe hot shit!\nI've a lot of time for his shit.", ">\n\nI was just reading another sub where someone said a TV show was \"the shits\". I still have no idea if they liked it or not." ]
> Meanwhile just calling someone "shit" goes back to insulting. Quick, someone write a formula for this.
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video.", ">\n\nThe one and only Ismo", ">\n\nThe hot shit!\nI've a lot of time for his shit.", ">\n\nI was just reading another sub where someone said a TV show was \"the shits\". I still have no idea if they liked it or not.", ">\n\nKind of like the joke:\nYou da bomb!\nA compliment in America. An argument in Iraq" ]
> In America put a “the” in front of a swear word to change its meaning.
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video.", ">\n\nThe one and only Ismo", ">\n\nThe hot shit!\nI've a lot of time for his shit.", ">\n\nI was just reading another sub where someone said a TV show was \"the shits\". I still have no idea if they liked it or not.", ">\n\nKind of like the joke:\nYou da bomb!\nA compliment in America. An argument in Iraq", ">\n\nMeanwhile just calling someone \"shit\" goes back to insulting.\nQuick, someone write a formula for this." ]
>
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nIsmo?\nI can't load the video.", ">\n\nThe one and only Ismo", ">\n\nThe hot shit!\nI've a lot of time for his shit.", ">\n\nI was just reading another sub where someone said a TV show was \"the shits\". I still have no idea if they liked it or not.", ">\n\nKind of like the joke:\nYou da bomb!\nA compliment in America. An argument in Iraq", ">\n\nMeanwhile just calling someone \"shit\" goes back to insulting.\nQuick, someone write a formula for this.", ">\n\nIn America put a “the” in front of a swear word to change its meaning." ]
I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha
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> It was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the "Kill" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with "End All" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha" ]
> That's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label "blackout" for that function.
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!" ]
> Oh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function." ]
> It was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-" ]
> Damn
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming." ]
> I always use kill+, go big or go home
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn" ]
> Looks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home" ]
> What does that machine do?
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?" ]
> It controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?" ]
> I used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes." ]
> What, no Scrolk key?
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol" ]
> So... does anyone else play paranoia?
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?" ]
> Looks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?" ]
> The Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger.
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!" ]
> Kill+ I don't want any zombies
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!", ">\n\nThe Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger." ]
> Kill+ ? More like Ultrakill
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!", ">\n\nThe Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger.", ">\n\nKill+ \nI don't want any zombies" ]
> This is great 🤣
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!", ">\n\nThe Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger.", ">\n\nKill+ \nI don't want any zombies", ">\n\nKill+ ? More like Ultrakill" ]
> Kill+
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!", ">\n\nThe Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger.", ">\n\nKill+ \nI don't want any zombies", ">\n\nKill+ ? More like Ultrakill", ">\n\nThis is great 🤣" ]
> Looks like DSA. Would be fun to find that thing for the caps
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!", ">\n\nThe Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger.", ">\n\nKill+ \nI don't want any zombies", ">\n\nKill+ ? More like Ultrakill", ">\n\nThis is great 🤣", ">\n\nKill+" ]
>
[ "I NEED that as my backspace keycap! Ha ha ha", ">\n\nIt was a DTLabs Playback Pro USB Controller and apparently they thought the \"Kill\" keycap was too harsh because the newest versions come with \"End All\" instead, haha. I'm sure you can get it customized somewhere!", ">\n\nThat's funny. Most video and lighting control boards that I've come across use the label \"blackout\" for that function.", ">\n\nOh God what have I done?! kill- kill- kill-", ">\n\nIt was usually pressed when the person doing the presentation was boring. They had it coming.", ">\n\nDamn", ">\n\nI always use kill+, go big or go home", ">\n\nLooks like DSA profile, or are they slightly taller?", ">\n\nWhat does that machine do?", ">\n\nIt controls a software program called Playback Pro. Basically, a live event video player for cueing up and programming videos to play during presentations and keynotes.", ">\n\nI used too be a lighting technician, worked with GrandMA2s I now want a “Please” keycap for my enter lol", ">\n\nWhat, no Scrolk key?", ">\n\nSo... does anyone else play paranoia?", ">\n\nLooks like the Death Notes have been replaced by a paperless version. How nice of the Shinigami to do their part in becoming more climate friendly!", ">\n\nThe Death Note in mechanical form. Type intended victim’s name and hit KILL. Would be a nice cap to have for any PC games that use keys rather than mouse for attacks. Like the “slaughter” key in Metal: H3llsinger.", ">\n\nKill+ \nI don't want any zombies", ">\n\nKill+ ? More like Ultrakill", ">\n\nThis is great 🤣", ">\n\nKill+", ">\n\nLooks like DSA. Would be fun to find that thing for the caps" ]
I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly "wokeness" is and have come to the conclusion that "wokeness" just means giving a fuck. Ron DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans. He wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.
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> Close. He wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. They don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These "issues" are tools to achieve that. It's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. It's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. THE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM Umberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism 1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” 2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” 3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” 4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” 5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” 6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” 7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” 8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” 9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.” 10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” 11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.” 12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” 13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.” 14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.” Jason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics
[ "I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others." ]
> While that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.
[ "I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.", ">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics" ]
> With any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will "both sides" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1) The difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being "strong" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their "weakness," have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost. All political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above. Personally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.
[ "I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.", ">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics", ">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge." ]
> DeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia.
[ "I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.", ">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics", ">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.", ">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive." ]
> He's a black hole of intellectual humility.
[ "I've spent a long time trying to figure out what exactly \"wokeness\" is and have come to the conclusion that \"wokeness\" just means giving a fuck.\nRon DeSantis doesn't want you to give a fuck about what happens to your Fellow Americans.\nHe wants us all in our little bubbles, uninterested and uncaring for what happens to anyone else - so as long tyranny comes to us one by one, none of us will speak out in defense of the others.", ">\n\nClose. \nHe wants what all the rich/ owner class politicians want...anger that fuels division. \nThey don't care about any of these issues. They care about money, and power. These \"issues\" are tools to achieve that. \nIt's propaganda, being handed down from Fox, and the owner class to steal our rights, and money. People fall for it. \nIt's textbook fascism. Denial of their goals, and tactics only helps their agenda. \nTHE THREE PILLARS OF FASCISM\n\nUmberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism\n\n1.The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n2.The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n4.Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n5.Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n6.Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n7.The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”\n8.The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n9.Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n10.Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n11.Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n12.Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n13.Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n14.Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\nJason Stanley – The ten pillars of fascist politics", ">\n\nWhile that is an interesting list, I feel like 75% of those are just techniques used by most political movement to try and get an edge.", ">\n\nWith any list of characteristics, especially abbreviated ones as above, you can always see ways it might relate to this thing or that, or anything really if you're creative and only need a few examples. It's part of why people will \"both sides\" so quickly, because with a cursory analysis one can always see an example of something on both sides (even if that thing might occur at a ratio of 10:1 or 100:1)\nThe difference is that some movements are unmistakably and fundamentally characterized by these traits. Their every move orbits around them. The absolute obsession with always being \"strong\" in this amorphous and insecure way for example, where you talk about it in every speech, always say the bad thing about your enemy is their \"weakness,\" have a whole ecosystem of insults tied to this obsession (like being preoccupied with who is soy/cuck/beta/gay/womanly), and see the whole world through that lens first and foremost.\nAll political parties talk about strength sometimes. But Germany, Spain, and Italy frothed about it as a defining feature of their fascist movements. When you read Umberto Eco closely, each of these terms relate to the history of fascism in a very specific ways not immediately obvious from this broad summary above.\nPersonally, I love Cody Showdie's unpacking of the list if you want an amusing audio deep dive.", ">\n\nDeSantis governs Florida with scientific ignorance and religious bigotry and homophobia." ]