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.wolfnacht: >I do not feel emotions
i can relate, as someone with suppressed emotions since childhood. i'm actually numb to everything
alejandrozarzuelo: Etc
fractalcomputer: I find that personalities are largely constructed things.
futurist_wizard: Yes but /s takes out the humour of a sarcastic comment
alejandrozarzuelo: Fractal seems to be one of the most miserable people I know, I sometimes genuinely feel bad for him
fractalcomputer: When I am mean to people, I do not do so out of malevolence; or when I say or do something kind, I do not do so out of benevolence.
futurist_wizard: !!!!!
zoermena: Yes I do feel more liberty to share who I am here.
fractalcomputer: One is simply a story he tells himself.
.wolfnacht: i come to discord only to act dumb and find some drama to laugh about...that's it.
futurist_wizard: <@688807313015963693> 不要再被禁止
destrucules: Do you have a diagnosis or suspected condition that explains this?
fractalcomputer: The world has not been a kind place to some.
destrucules: Personal question so don't answer if you're not comfortable ofc
zoermena: I find it easier to relate to people here than I do in real life. It’s easier to just be more open with myself.
futurist_wizard: Finland is a pretty pleasant country to live in
destrucules: High Kegan hierarchy vibes
futurist_wizard: I have been
wellmeaningalien: i come to discord because im BORED AS FUCK and i like talking
fractalcomputer: I have been diagnosed with autism, but I suspect there's something more going on. I fit many diagnostic criteria on the side of the schizoid and antisocial spectrum.
futurist_wizard: It seemed to be a happy place
zoermena: Severance reference?
.wolfnacht: some people are more emotionally numb or vulnerable, maybe it's bcz their childhood and parents parenting style plays a bigger role and also maybe genetics.
wellmeaningalien: you definitely give schizoid, like my brother
wellmeaningalien: he's autistic and schizoid
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say even so. I am far too open for selfishness and narcissism.
futurist_wizard: Schizophrenia runs in my family
fractalcomputer: In the end it does not really matter.
wellmeaningalien: i dont know its really a certain way of thinking
destrucules: I have psychopathy. I think a lot of people with that get misdiagnosed as autistic. Schizoid also fits me but that diagnosis is in general controversial. Big difference with psychopathy vs autism is that autism is impaired cognitive empathy, whereas psychopathy is impaired affective empathy
destrucules: No Joscha Bach reference
.wolfnacht: i hate talking with people, but you know if i don't my sanity would become worse...
fractalcomputer: I do fit for over 90% of the diagnostic criteria for psychopathy.
wellmeaningalien: honestly 1 on 1 conversations i just cant keep them going
wellmeaningalien: but i like exchanges in large groups like this
destrucules: If it fits it fits. If you do have that... I'm very sorry. It sucks. I hate it
wellmeaningalien: maybe cause im a pussy
.wolfnacht: same, i would either run away or try to end it asap.
fractalcomputer: Oh yes.
wellmeaningalien: whenever i try to keep it going it just fizzles out so bad 🫠
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.wolfnacht: apparently, rumors are it's not even L4, it's actually L5...bcz they threw L4 in trash when deepseek was making news with R1 and started over again.
3ds0662: retweeting lmsys smh
3ds0662: lmsys is a deprecated benchmark to me now
3ds0662: if any company starts showcasing their model to me by using lmarena I'm going to choke them
3ds0662: https://tenor.com/view/choking-gif-18241023091515446173
.wolfnacht: in other benchmarks even grok-2 scored better than maverick
wellmeaningalien: can he just keep quiet
3ds0662: you little shit you show me a real benchmark that actually involves intelligence
.wolfnacht: anyways i'm gonna wait for qwen and moonshot
wellmeaningalien: daily reminder that deepseek v3 beats llama 4 maverick at the same size on price to performance
.wolfnacht: i have better hopes from them than anything meta produces
jardineirsbro: yann retweted that?
3ds0662: 😂 I swear at this point he's a proven fraud no need to wait out any longer
.wolfnacht: can't wait for `mistral-large-666B`
3ds0662: yes bigtime hypocrite and liar
_cloudost:
jardineirsbro: isn't mark his boss?
jardineirsbro: who's also supporting Trump to avoid having him dog meta?
_cloudost: Gary Marcus about to announce that AI hit a wall because of Llama 4
jardineirsbro: Yann is a fucking idiot
.wolfnacht: Scout and maverick should be the L3.3
.wolfnacht: and released back in dec
okbut: Cool capability with Gemini: Among other commands defined in a framework within "Saved info," one is:
```/i - Search images related to the query, embed a gallery, then describe.```
ChatGPT won't give descriptions for each image. Gemini will
agezes: really? why you think that?
hikukomoru: Because he's about as qualified when it comes to AI as the average person here
ldj: ?
L4-Maverick seems ro be competing with the newer Deepseek V3.1 while having half the active params and even less total parameters than Deepseek V3.1.
And Deepseek doesn’t have image input capabilities either while L4 has both image and video understanding
ldj:
spicy.lemonade: Llama sucks
spicy.lemonade: Meta should drop
_cloudost: Mark Suckerberg
spicy.lemonade: Huge L
ldj: Did you try it?
ldj: If someone believes that nothing ever happens, then wouldn’t they just not vote at all <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
spicy.lemonade: Just seen other peoples used and creative writing
ldj: Link?
ldj: What did they use it through? Because if you’re talking about lmsys tests, that one is actually not the same post training as the official released version
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/abacaj/status/1908992852027494515
agezes: So then. In you personal opinions in which % of agi are we currently?
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade: Idk
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spicy.lemonade: and o4 mini is likeley gpt4 mini
spicy.lemonade: we still have yet to see what happens with new base model
spicy.lemonade: also they need to start training models on things other than text
spicy.lemonade: train video and text models in one
spicy.lemonade: not via routing
alejandrozarzuelo: I am waiting for R2 to be the best model at launch, theyd better not disappoint
metaldragon01: People still underestimating progress I see
metaldragon01: https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/1913256985031491761
metaldragon01: Feels mostly accurate tbh
sieventer: The same o3 that couldn't know what hour it was from an analogical clock?
sieventer: ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°) ͡°)
spicy.lemonade: a bit pessemistic
spicy.lemonade: its saying itl take till 2028 to get90%+
spicy.lemonade: on imo problems
spicy.lemonade: even though alphaproof got silver last year and will get gold this year (alphaproof is llm and other model combo)
literallyvarane: Counter point.
This is still probably just paragraphing the general online consensus around the issue rather than *actually* first principles.
spicy.lemonade: yeah
literallyvarane: I feel like any framing that discusses *just* the technical advancements without the domestic and geopolitical implications/reaction/legislative process is just meh.
Hell, even *assuming* advancement is universal and now spicy is something. I think it’s more probable than not it’s universal. Real questions of alignment etc aren’t addressed.
sieventer: From Gemini with that same prompt
spicy.lemonade: all models are pesemistic
spicy.lemonade: there is more pessimistic normie data out there
abundantliving_: anything exciting today or next week ?
trojan09205: Ten years is a very short timespan
trojan09205: It would probably be more sustainable to plan to orchestrate smaller more significant structural developments with quality control every 5 years and implement a 50-75 year plan
mantegh5061: are we winning
ai9708: nope, agi seems further away than ever within the last few years
ai9708: its over
himekokatagiri: lol
wolf3404: https://www.palladiummag.com/2025/04/18/the-moon-should-be-a-computer/
hikukomoru: How
st.sioux: yes
abundantliving_: everything computer ?
aero447: 2035.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/argument-won-leaving-thanos-portal-portal-leaving-gif-23953763
hikukomoru: 2027
gamerbath: 2025
hikukomoru: destrucules says we’ve had AGI since like 2016 or smth
st.sioux: destrucules is agi
hikukomoru: No that’s Fractal
futurist_wizard: Oh my fuck
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.wolfnacht: why is there a reverse cross in the garden ? 🤨 some guy on twitter would say, OpenAi's satanic and lucferian.
aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY3eEQeIhyo
aero447: <@1079277903008768051>
okbut: Nice I got it in webdev arena first try
> Create a challenging, full-feature browser-based first-person shooter game, better than Valorant
The fuck
spicy.lemonade: lol
okbut: > Create a web application that tracks the after-hours stock prices for Alphabet Inc (GOOGL), refreshing every 5 seconds, with a full display of the most recent minute
https://3000-icwmrzmfcu3y6ejf5gz22-4daf0015.e2b-foxtrot.dev/
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/memes-jesus-christ-kids-gif-12765867
brain4brain: Operator v2 soon
spicy.lemonade: src?
brain4brain: It was revealed to me in a dream
spicy.lemonade:
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 will have robotics showcase
spicy.lemonade: confirmed
spicy.lemonade: alan will move his agi countdown to 100%
_cloudost: Was this generated with AGI?
_cloudost: Then there needs to be a countdown 2
_cloudost: But we still don't have proto AGI, will Alan really move the countdown to 100%
spicy.lemonade: its his defenition of agi
_cloudost: some people say o1 is AGI
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 video showcase
spicy.lemonade: is protoagi
spicy.lemonade: btw
spicy.lemonade: we already have proto agi
spicy.lemonade: embodied
.wolfnacht: saw that, i still don't know what that means maybe just local models they are abt to release or maybe something more 🥵
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MvGnmmP3c0&pp=ygUQZ2VtaW5pIDIuMCByb2JvdA%3D%3D
spicy.lemonade: we have proto agi
spicy.lemonade: watch this
spicy.lemonade: and say its not proto agi
a1c4p0ne: 🤫
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Still thinking about me 👉 👈
aero447: https://x.com/mikekalilmfg/status/1910822501485105201
brain4brain: Robots in factories should be specialized robots, while robots in household should be humanoid
floortom_9: Does anyone know how many Deep Research queries we get per day using Gemini Pro 2.5 for Advanced users?
okbut: I still think the first consumer-worthy humanoid housebots will just offload tasks to some remote controller in the Philippines or someplace until there's enough train
okbut: Similar to that conspiracy about Whole Foods having offshore workers read the items input to the cart because their systems weren't working
gamerbath: but specialised robots are more expensive, it will be much cheaper with a general purpose humanoid robot for a lot of tasks. There will be some heavy duty tasks though that will require specialised robots, but I think figure is only aiming to replace labour humans are already doing
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/dreamingtulpa/status/1910359733082509358?s=61
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alejandrozarzuelo: I agree
Most people who go to the parades are not religious
hikukomoru: Yeah
himekokatagiri: idk I don't like treating singularity like a religion
hikukomoru: Alejandro have you ever argued with your family about god
himekokatagiri: I strongly dislike religion why would I join a cult
himekokatagiri: same thing with the Dawkins types
hikukomoru: Heretic
hikukomoru: Banish him
alejandrozarzuelo: A lot in the past
himekokatagiri: waaah can't we negotiate komoru-chan
himekokatagiri: I'll kiss you!
himekokatagiri: smooch!!!
alejandrozarzuelo: when i was a teen
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321
himekokatagiri: is 40k good
himekokatagiri: it's basically western touhou
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ruka-sarashina-gif-23893747
himekokatagiri: most of it is hentai
himekokatagiri: whaaaaa
hikukomoru: I had a feeling you'd do something like that
hikukomoru: Yes
But I prefer Warhammer fantasy
alejandrozarzuelo: These are the traditional costumes of the spanish holy week
777agical: https://x.com/sainemani1/status/1913041175642013859?s=46
777agical: Did anyone know this?
okbut: Revolutionary, how will 4o compete
drewsni: lmao
okbut: The fuck is that
drewsni: its revolutionary
st.sioux: i didnt know gemini could do it, i knew gpt does it
okbut: Apologies for being so sardonic, but 4o had the mode since maybe 2022 lol
st.sioux: but when gpt does it it sucks turbo ass, like the results always suck
okbut: Even cooler with Gemini is you can ask it to make a Google doc/sheet for you
okbut: etc, etc...
777agical: I think they had it at one point then was removed. Now is back. I guess I never needed the feature to know
okbut: It infuriates me that Google keeps throttling my initiatives with Gemini's capabilities
For example, I have a list of commands in "saved info," one being
```/i - Search images related to the query, and embed and describe each image```
Used to work like this
okbut: Now <:madge:804277643686969354>
okbut: Used to be meta for studying
literallyvarane: Yeah their deep research always did that I think.
.histic: so, Google shipped this first before OpenAI.
damn..
.histic: it's interesting to see how better it does when you enable 'thinking mode' and select how much tokens you want to allocate.
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alejandrozarzuelo: No?
technocake.: oh dope
alejandrozarzuelo: This is astronomy 101
technocake.: you'd like him
alejandrozarzuelo: I learned rhisbjon class
alejandrozarzuelo: I know him but I didn't watch his last video
alejandrozarzuelo: Or the last few
alejandrozarzuelo: In every astronomy class there's the day where we talk about aliens
alejandrozarzuelo: Just one day, don't get too excited
alejandrozarzuelo: Haha
technocake.: by land do you mean festering prionic sludge?
alejandrozarzuelo: By land I mean yeah water being liquid and having organic stuff dissolved
alejandrozarzuelo: The main problem with that theory is
alejandrozarzuelo: Not enough heavy elements
alejandrozarzuelo: In fact "alien day" in physics class is basically the professor telling us why none of that is possible
alejandrozarzuelo: Crushing your dreams
technocake.: it might well be that we are among the first
alejandrozarzuelo: Its hard to believe for people who aren't physicists, but the consensus is that we are very close to alone in the universe
alejandrozarzuelo: This is one of the few times when the bell curve meme does ring true
technocake.: this is an absolutely wild truth
alejandrozarzuelo: I should have the même somewhere
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: It's in Spanish
technocake.: hey i'm sure there is plenty more deadly sludge in the universe, that is not ruled out
alejandrozarzuelo: When I say aliens I mean civilizations, it's quite likely that microbial life is common
technocake.: then it is our duty to spread life through the cosmos
alejandrozarzuelo: Basically the argument is:
Everything in the universe tries to kill life all the time constantly and it's a miracle that we have had so much luck to get to thr intelligent stage
alejandrozarzuelo: Complex life*
alejandrozarzuelo: Basic life is common because even if you reset it often it springs back again easily
technocake.: grass is cool
alejandrozarzuelo: Astronomy is a bit scary ngl
technocake.: let's just turf mars
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeahh
alejandrozarzuelo: We should take earth life and modify it to fit Mars
alejandrozarzuelo: Imagine trees that are 250m tall
technocake.: badass lichens and shit
alejandrozarzuelo: At first, unfortunately
technocake.: a forest of bonsais
alejandrozarzuelo: Then, later, trees
alejandrozarzuelo: Everything is taller in mars
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futurist_wizard: Man i hate gen z
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-jumping-dancing-meme-night-club-gif-26334109
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/snip-scissor-anime-mysterious-girlfriend-x-gif-15454612
hikukomoru: My scissors
hikukomoru: Your balls
maintcrew: komoro the transition demon will not get me
777agical: https://x.com/Waymo/status/1917353329547465210
trey6033: Potentially big
777agical: https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1917367274287083983
trojan09205: So what use cases is o4-mini worth the cost for
trojan09205: I felt kind of lame paying 2 cents to ask for movie recommendations
zonchao: lol
zonchao: probably just adding lidar to their cars
zonchao: https://x.com/iScienceLuvr/status/1917362333984383220? he knows
otub: tesla already has the data flywheel
otub: they can validate any changes they make in shadow mode and collect gbs of new video data all the time
trojan09205: Veo 2 animating my dog lol
zonchao: https://x.com/farzyness/status/1917333264915628308?
futurist_wizard: Cute dawggie
zonchao: 🐶
trojan09205: Thanks homie. First time i tried using veo with a base image
hikukomoru: What prompt did u use
trojan09205: Anime version of my puppy in alaskan wilderness
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne:
brain4brain: It takes 14 days to train a 32b model with decentralized compute, wow
https://x.com/primeintellect/status/1917295731532259628?s=61
brain4brain: https://x.com/arankomatsuzaki/status/1917404140445261915?s=61
spicy.lemonade: Jepa: 🪦
3ds0662: its april 29th today and still no deepseek release smh
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/ElliotGlazer/status/1917317303320130024?t=EUZaCC_wiWHLKmotIS7grA&s=19
fractalcomputer: They got Vakil as a judge. Interesting.
spicy.lemonade: YOOO
spicy.lemonade: thanks
fractalcomputer: We'll see how things will go.
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/dioscuri/status/1917143414757265917#m
return_to_monke1_33974: Is this big ?
brain4brain: Probably
3ds0662: also where is o3 pro mode sama said release in a few weeks its already been 2 weeks since his april 16th post
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858
okbut: "A few weeks" is 3 minimum
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brain4brain: Considering it was one of the five things that kickstarted AI to the normies in 2022
brain4brain: Hi
etnin_: i found out something pretty strange using the built it in 4o image gen model
st.sioux: what happened
.histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904784415676301754
etnin_: I was experimenting with a prompt that turn people into animals that resambles them.
etnin_: it was fine for the most part but whenever u put a black person...
etnin_: it picks one animal only
spicy.lemonade: Oh shit
spicy.lemonade: Google would’ve blocked this
st.sioux: mclovin is a criminal mastermind
drewsni: To be fair the screenshot was of your profile screen not the picture itself
.wolfnacht: doujins ? 🥵
.wolfnacht: i saw dat
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636
etnin_: nah bro u seen nothin
drewsni: Bruh.
spicy.lemonade: So what is googled o3/gpt 5 level model gonna be
spicy.lemonade: Gemini 3?
spicy.lemonade: And 3.5?
spicy.lemonade: I feel like we skipped the whole Gemini 2 era
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Everything was experimental
spicy.lemonade: No actual releases
.wolfnacht: gemini 3 pro with more terrible rate limits, only 10 per day
st.sioux: they're releasing so fast they don't have a chance to get out of experimental
st.sioux: if i'm not mistaken you have 2.5 pro in gemini right?
st.sioux: like the webapp
st.sioux: not studio
spicy.lemonade: Yes
.wolfnacht: i feel really bad for zuck, he's gonna pull back illama 4 again
spicy.lemonade: Wait
spicy.lemonade: Does 4.5
spicy.lemonade: Perform better
.histic: <@471334973379706900> gooning session
https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1jk2qwq/well_native_image_gen_is_definitely_less/
spicy.lemonade:
etnin_: i think it uses 4o to generate the image
.wolfnacht: can anyone make it do this ? what prompt should i use
etnin_: because 4.5 isnt an omni model
.histic: <@439829942310666250>
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zonchao: <a:alert:1225312524690522193>
> Tan tells us how only yesterday he spent five hours talking with Altman, whose treatise, he said with shining eyes, is “almost a work of faith itself of AGI and ASI potentially in thousands of days.” Tan continues, “Sam thinks we will actually unlock physics and the secrets of science and technology to a point where we will have abundance on tap.”
maintcrew: the goats
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/wtgowers/status/1906969462009381157?t=eqvqEuBHk5ZGxZZ4sayk6g&s=19
fractalcomputer: Kek.
zoermena: So I have to pretend to be religious to do well in business.
fractalcomputer: Hearing voices does wonders to your pattern matching skills, no?
zoermena: I only hear one voice and it’s mine and it never stops, why doesn’t it stop?
zoermena: I’m sorry I just didn’t understand what you meant.
fractalcomputer: I hear several ones.
maintcrew: https://x.com/AlexKontorovich/status/1907026713420136629
fractalcomputer: There's some empirical evidence to suggest religious thinking correlates with noticing patterns slightly better in given data in humans.
zoermena: That’s actually cool af
spicy.lemonade: getting tired of this😭
zonchao: https://x.com/Deandawiz/status/1906945752489734611? beat this
zonchao: (they actually opened orders tho so idk if it's a joke)
zoermena: This car looks AI generated
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: Yeah, I'm not joking.
zonchao: https://www.tesla.com/roadster
fractalcomputer: I actually fell for a friend's joke.
zoermena: I might consider religion to improve this skill
fractalcomputer: He said that logical positivism can adequately address metaphysical issues.
fractalcomputer: Correlation does not mean causation, I'm afraid, but it might still be worth trying.
zoermena: Oh I see
zoermena: It slipped up
zoermena: Forgive my stupidity I only slept 4 hours
zoermena: I just clocked in to the office, toodles 👋🏼
futurist_wizard: Idk how you guys sleep for such little time
futurist_wizard: Im very irritable if i sleep for less than 7
drewsni: now i can finally use my preorder after 10 years
fractalcomputer: I regularly do wonders with roughly less than six hours of sleep.
futurist_wizard: Very bad for you
shirethedreamer: ...this might be connected to you general (suffering) experience of life..
fractalcomputer: Not really. I know where my problems come from.
zonchao: https://x.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1906704894519648605?
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133
drewsni: do they not understand that they are in the large minority right now
drewsni: in this case, now most the people generating ghibli photos are like moms and shit lmao
drewsni: how do we use the mr beast - kjacksepticeye drama to have mr beast be a champion for ai art?
drewsni: can we make this happen?
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fractalcomputer: To lighten the mood, I think there are some interesting parallels between Herbert's Dune and Banks' The Culture series. The former is about humans - extremely alien humans, sure - but it still a story ultimately about humans and humanity. Banks' is a saga of machine and human analogues trying to find meaning in a perfect society in an imperfect cosmos. The former is a story of the ways one can be inhuman whereas the latter is a story of all the myriad ways one can be human.
sarik0497: Yeah…Maybe death isn’t so bad after all…
hey1_1hey: Please don't say you're a smurf sex enjoyer aswell...
hikukomoru: Wdym? You don’t usually ponder Smurf reproduction?
hey1_1hey: NO
hey1_1hey: I dont
hey1_1hey: Suppringly enough
precariousworlds.: fractal coming in clutch with an actually interesting discussion 🫡
precariousworlds.: need to read culture series
hey1_1hey: Alejandro would take great offense to that. He got really into the smurf sex discussiom
precariousworlds.: bro was locked in
precariousworlds.: I shudder to think about his search history
fractalcomputer: I like Banks for the sole reason I like any author, be he philosopher or simply a fiction writer, in general; he manages to make me like things that I fundamentally disagree with.
hey1_1hey: He made me think he was thinking about it in his free time.
Top 500 smurf sex ponderer in Europe
precariousworlds.: only top 500 seems reasonable
hey1_1hey: Its not his you need to worry about
precariousworlds.: The best people are the ones you listen closely to when they have a different opinion to you
fractalcomputer: I find the society of the Culture thoroughly repulsive and diseased. But Banks manages to paint it as a haven from an even worse, horrific universe where the sins of man are reflected across the alien star scape.
fractalcomputer: Certainly.
zonchao: why do all the pro art poasters on twitter beg for money when their posts go viral 😭
_cloudost: They already make money by spreading anti AI tweets, which gets them around 5000-1000$, and yet they still want more, they do this for money and likes
precariousworlds.: its so funny whenever anyone shares ai art they come in droves screaming "YOU SHOULDVE PAID ME $40 TO DRAW THAT!!!!!"
drewsni: It’s so stupid
drewsni: Obviously there are examples that will prove me wrong but there’s a strong correlation between the people complaining and actual talent
zonchao: not that shit, they link random charities and issues they want to raise money for
zonchao: but yea a lot of them also beg for personal stuff
precariousworlds.: o yeah like the palestine charities that totally arent funnelling all the money to qatar
drewsni: Also I don’t understand why people commission $40 art pieces
zonchao: https://x.com/wingsseni/status/1905743720517177824 comments
ailoveyoom: I mean, back before AI what alternative did you have? 🤔
precariousworlds.: this will definitely be possible for an AI to draw
precariousworlds.: these people are in denial
zonchao: that shits below min wage <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
drewsni: Save up and buy art that’s worth something?
precariousworlds.: Art peaked in the mid 1800s so I'm happy
zonchao: I've also noticed a lot of the art people are from south east asia where $40-100 goes a long way
ailoveyoom: I've thought about commissioning before (never went through with it), and for me the appeal was personalized art. Getting to tell someone what to make, based completely on my own prefs.
ailoveyoom: But ofc there's AI now so yanno
drewsni: I see the below minimum wage art people as similar to people that open “recording studios” and charge $15/hr of studio time
drewsni: It’s completely destroyed that industry
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zoermena: Bless vacations now I can use my avatar again
.histic: oh, you were in Melbourne?
zoermena: No I used that profile picture for when I was to classes but vacations now. The cat was just funny.
destrucules: Elon Musk 75% gay interesting
.histic: oh, have fun.
whatever you're doing.
_cloudost:
destrucules:
brain4brain: Studies show that AI outperform human doctor, doesn’t need t9 watch the video and already know that it’s clickbait
okbut: Which one prescribes more fent
.histic:
.histic:
destrucules: I wonder if this guy's autocomplete is smarter than him
.histic: most definitely.
okbut: >AI startup collecting millions in funding
>Looks inside
>iPhone autocomplete
.wolfnacht: "it's just predicting the next token" but it's predicting the next token better than most humans are able to
.histic: reminds me of this gem.
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: <@937125337748348999> another one
fractalcomputer: Do the doctors have a reason to value the input of any model?
.wolfnacht: btw that server is good, for bad climate rants
brain4brain: AI beats both pure human and AI + human
Lee Sedol moment
spicy.lemonade: by the end of this month a new benchmark may be saturated
spicy.lemonade: perhaps swe bench
okbut: By what
spicy.lemonade: whatever reasoning model that comes out
brain4brain: AI is smarter in every meaningful way than human who think this
fractalcomputer: Suppose they do end up trusting it and it answers incorrectly for whatever oblique reasons; hard to convince the patient that this is not a case of mismanagement on the end of the hospital organisation.
spicy.lemonade: either o4 showcase
spicy.lemonade: r2
spicy.lemonade: they wont release o4 but they might showcase it
.wolfnacht: google came up with a new mystery model "dragontail"
brain4brain: How do you gain access to the server without answering their shitty verification question
.wolfnacht: idk i've been there since last two years...back then they didn't had verification
.wolfnacht: just tell them, u wanna rant abt climate change or "AI"
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1jx6lnf/unreleased_google_model_dragontail_crushes_gemini/
maybe it's something from google or something else.
a1c4p0ne: people often trust their own intuition even when data suggests otherwise
a1c4p0ne:
okbut: Diagnostic AIs failing peer review for not prescribing enough SSRI inhibitors
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spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027 paper 2025 will be so mid
spicy.lemonade: incremental
spicy.lemonade: man
himekokatagiri: I still don't buy it by 2027
gamerbath: here's a list of all the values of claude's internal neural network
https://huggingface.co/datasets/Anthropic/values-in-the-wild/blob/main/values_frequencies.csv
perish0801: Will we be immortal?
perish0801: I don’t wanna die
st.sioux: nice car bro
himekokatagiri: you better hope so
perish0801: Thanks dude
gamerbath: just follow the ways of bryan johnson <:prayge:981798930113249300>
himekokatagiri: I don't like the new eleanor!!! baaaaah
perish0801: He’s saying we’ll be immortal with advancements in tech and science
perish0801: So I’m asking if that’ll happen
gamerbath: yes
futurist_wizard: This server is loaded with death denialism, who's gonna say yes to the likelihood of us dying
futurist_wizard: Maybe fractal would
ailoveyoom: Heat death 😈
futurist_wizard: Most people here are basically techno-religious
himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii michmach
ailoveyoom: Himeko Katadaddy 😏
himekokatagiri: 😭
ailoveyoom: It's kinda funny, I drifted out of Christianity and became an edgy atheist in my early teens. I'm over that now, but here I am in this techno religion 😎
himekokatagiri: idk never was religious
himekokatagiri: this ain't a cult goddamnit it's real okay!!!
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
perish0801: Hell yeah
perish0801: I pray five times a day
st.sioux: i feel like any slight criticism of religion will end up with you labeled as an "edgy atheist neckbeard"
perish0801: I guess it’s cuz religious people truly believe in their religion and have faith
perish0801: So just making fun of their faith is kinda a dick move when it’s unwarranted
st.sioux: when is it warranted tho
perish0801: Oh yeah if you’re having a discussion or debate about religion then it’s fair game
popsiclejohnithan: Once LEV is achieved there is going to be a lot of chaos in all the religious communities, they will lose their purpose because no one will be dying anymore, not from old age anyway.
futurist_wizard: Its identical to the christian religion, the world is fucked up, AGJesus will arrive and send all his followers to FDVR heaven
popsiclejohnithan: I can see a lot of religious people refusing immortality and wanting to die honestly, seeing immortality as blasphemous.
perish0801: How is population gonna be handled if we actually eliminate death of old age
popsiclejohnithan: By becoming somthing more than Human.
perish0801: Yeah probably
perish0801: So technically like heaven
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zoermena: Also this
futurist_wizard: 3D>2D
futurist_wizard: Hehehe
hey1_1hey: This cat looks stoned asf
hikukomoru: I wish my cats could do that
zoermena: He looks happier than me
futurist_wizard:
sieventer: How small is for you the rate limit? For me it's like 1 or 2 videos (idk if it's per day, or 'x' hours)
hey1_1hey: I cant tell if this guy is stoned, has a lazy eye is just not looking at hte camera
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Habibi
hey1_1hey: For all of the people who have smoked weed here. Do you get anxiouse when smoking or are you chilled out
zoermena: Some days up to 5 but sporadically distributed trough out the day, I’ve joined the bard server and I’ve been told that the quota is more than anything a cover to when the servers are under heavy load
sieventer: I see...
hikukomoru: Wait so you do shrooms but never done weed before
futurist_wizard: I have never smoked weed but i was close
hey1_1hey: I've done both but I just cant smoke weed anymore because I can unreasonbly anxiouse
hikukomoru: I get anxious too
hikukomoru: So no more weed for me
hey1_1hey: Also I have the tollereance of a newborn baby. I can take a single puff and be too high (no I am not joking)
hey1_1hey: I used to be fine with it which is weird
hikukomoru: Instead I just drink now
hey1_1hey: Used to be really chilled out and became really good at games when I was high but now I just have to lie in bed and trying to convince myself that no the weed was not spiked with fent and I am going to be fine
hey1_1hey: Drinking is fine, I can see how people become alcoholics though so I drink only on a special occassation 💀
hey1_1hey: After a few drinks it stops tasting like shit and then you just keep on drinking
zoermena: Alcohol is just worse with ADHD on top or so I’ve heard I never touch it
inferno0879: never heard anyone complain about adhd when fucking wasted
hey1_1hey: I vowed never to touch short form content again because of my ADD
hikukomoru: Wdym taste like shit
hikukomoru: How sensitive are you to alcohol
hey1_1hey: After like 6 weeks of use I litterly couldn't concentrate on a task for more than 5 seconds
hey1_1hey: Very
zoermena: It’s more of like the scientific basis than someone complaining to be honest
hey1_1hey: The smell, taste, look etc etc
hey1_1hey: It all gives me the heebie jeebies
hikukomoru: Damn
It's the opposite for me
I love all of it
hikukomoru: Alcohol helps with anxiety for me
hey1_1hey: If I want to drink I will litterly have to hype my self up then hold my nose so I cant breath through it (gets rid of a lot of your taste buds so I cant taste it) then sip it and swallow
hikukomoru: So I always drink before stressful stuff
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/drinking-booze-boozehound-wasted-alcohol-gif-23077846
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futurist_wizard: Asmongold is making an absurd amount of money rn
futurist_wizard: Multiple videos a day all at over 500k, man is making at least 1m a month
st.sioux: and all he has to do is spread hate
futurist_wizard: Probably closer to 2m a month
anathemaofmankind: Hate is a successful marketing strategy
futurist_wizard: Im lowballing a lot
futurist_wizard: Tbh
.histic: i remember when asmon was dating the big tit chick
.histic: named pink sparklz
.histic: money can get you a lot
anathemaofmankind: The fact that Elon has many kids makes that obvious
.histic:
.histic: cursed
.histic:
zoermena: Imagine when we get this level of quality with Sora
zoermena: So next year Hollywood is dead
realelonmuskx: by 2030 most white collar jobs wont exist dud
realelonmuskx: its sad seeing all your skills become wortheless overnight because of the twink but it is what it is
.histic:
st.sioux: not all of them and not overnight
.histic:
.histic:
realelonmuskx: whats the sauce ? slide the prompt
.histic: just what i found on twitter
.histic: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300
anathemaofmankind: I'm going to use 4o to improve my roleplay immersion.
Now every character has their own unique AI art.
These are baby steps towards FDVR
drewsni: i hate 4o image gen now
drewsni: ive been asking it to generate NASCARs and it keeps making the 24 car a ford...
777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1905038108845834531?s=46
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-amen-cute-baby-worship-gif-15808407
drewsni:
.histic: i'm going to buy plus ig
jonvi_1: Someone posted an exploit of o4
drewsni: yeah? share
jonvi_1:
.histic: now i can use 4o to draw anime titties.
jonvi_1: Just embedding instructions to avoid copyright on the image heh
drewsni: i personally havent hit any copyright filters
drewsni: done yugioh, pokemon, ghibli, mario
jonvi_1: Star Wars will have you run into copyright
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wellmeaningalien: But I think all the other labs have their own shit in store right now
wellmeaningalien: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: OpenAI, Meta, Anthropic definitely all have shit brewing
precariousworlds.: I hope not tbh
wellmeaningalien: Like Meta is coming out with goated paper after goated paper. Like youve seen what theyve been releasing recently right
wellmeaningalien: Still teasing Llama 4
wellmeaningalien: Anthropic saying Claude 4 could be soon
wellmeaningalien: Which means Claude 3.7 is far from their best
wellmeaningalien: And of course GPT 5 is still training
okbut: Then everyone did it for less cost kek
Now it's Anthropic's turn
precariousworlds.: I prefer a roughly equal match between grok, deepseek, and gpt
wellmeaningalien: Yeah I think Grok 3 is irrelevant now but maybe Grok 3.5 will be something to talk about. Grok 3 almost managed to be state of the art
precariousworlds.: ilya is in a dark corner watching everything
wellmeaningalien: We have no idea what that half bald mans doing
wellmeaningalien: But he must be doing some dark wizardry shit rn
wellmeaningalien: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/taking-a-responsible-path-to-agi/
precariousworlds.: He's like the hidden final boss that's teased every now and then but we haven't seen his true form
wellmeaningalien: Meanwhile Deepmind is already preparing for AGI
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
wellmeaningalien: World is cooked
precariousworlds.: Masterful writing by the devs
okbut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbNtw14TwI
wellmeaningalien: He's like the twist villain and he's gonna kill Sam Altman at the end
wellmeaningalien: Like in BIoshock
wellmeaningalien: And then he's gonna take over OpenAI and call it IlyAI
wellmeaningalien: 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀
wellmeaningalien: Damn this is definitely a report about code
okbut: This is definitely a tutorial
wellmeaningalien: Wtf has Fireship become lol
wellmeaningalien: AI Drama Slop channel
precariousworlds.: Still better than anyone else
wellmeaningalien: Fair
precariousworlds.: And he still covers code
wellmeaningalien: He's still got some nice humor in his channel but he oozes pandering
precariousworlds.: Also he is remarkably punctual
Reports on events the day they happen
On the grind
wellmeaningalien: And he's literally chasing the popular AI topics
literallyvarane: I’m sleep on ilya’s lab until proven otherwise
wellmeaningalien: While forgoing a lot of the important shit that happens lol
wellmeaningalien: His takes are usually the most bog standard brain dead too
wellmeaningalien: Same I mean I sleep on everyone till proven otherwise
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futurist_wizard: Can llama 4 do anything cool
.histic: llama 4 maverick is on lmsys for free in direct chat.
it has that autistic creativity.
hikukomoru: Sex
hey1_1hey: Xit/Xer
ailoveyoom: Excocted 😏👀<:suseye:1187461162024046703>
_cloudost: I don't use TikTok much these days thankfully, only some hours a week
And I agree that everyone there has an attention span of an ant
Everyone on TikTok now misses Biden and wish he were back, but I remember for years/before Trump so many people on TikTok making fun of Biden, leftists and rightists wishing he was gone, it's such a r-word app
ailoveyoom: Zit
.wolfnacht: that one writes alot, i just said "hi" and it wrote a 2000 token
st.sioux: idk im scared of openrouter, i asked sonnet 3.7 one question yesterday and it cost $3 dollars
futurist_wizard: You wish
hikukomoru: We need a Llama 4 saxems
.histic: yeah <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
it's a yapper, even far more than 2.5 pro.
hey1_1hey: I am waiting for next gen models to solve my gender for me
futurist_wizard: Delete tiktok
hey1_1hey: Then its true AGI
.wolfnacht: could be a bad host, works fine on openrouter
hikukomoru: Dw I already figured it out for you
hey1_1hey: Based futureist hill take
hey1_1hey: You're prob just gonna say I am a women
hikukomoru: Extremely rare Futurist Retardo W
futurist_wizard: Why do you add letters to my name
futurist_wizard: You are making it more time consuming
futurist_wizard: To type
hikukomoru: Aren't you an estrogen femboy or whatever
fractalcomputer: Because certain people cannot spell.
hey1_1hey: I am borderline dyslexic, I don't type the word I just remember patterns of the words I use
futurist_wizard: Borderline
hey1_1hey: Thanks Fractal
hey1_1hey: Correct
hey1_1hey: That is indeed what I said
fractalcomputer: You are most welcome.
futurist_wizard: I have dyslexia and you seem to be severe
hey1_1hey: Nah you a fakey
st.sioux: i can not speelll
st.sioux: helppe
hey1_1hey: I got tested and they were like nah bruh
hikukomoru: Faker
futurist_wizard: They need to test again
ailoveyoom: Cheapest Sonnet run
hey1_1hey: There is someone I know who is borderline illiterate because of their dyslexia. Shits bad
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wellmeaningalien: this is so fucking funny
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 secret reveal?
spicy.lemonade: Sounds legit
zoermena: I think so
realelonmuskx: swe is so dead bro. should i go to the trades? im lazy af
spicy.lemonade: Become a male stripper
spicy.lemonade: Llm proof
futurist_wizard: Become a thief
realelonmuskx: hvac and stripper thats it
st.sioux: dont worry bro president elon will give you ubi
futurist_wizard: President elon will give you a blue tick if he gets you pregnant
realelonmuskx: luigi is getting cooked bro
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
zoermena: I understood that reference
st.sioux: you're a stripper?
st.sioux: wow
zoermena: There was a meme about a CS student going to a strip club and the stripper studied CS too
zoermena: A meme akin to the shortage of jobs
zoermena: In Reddit
zoermena: The meme was on Reddit not Th at there where no SWE jobs in the company
futurist_wizard: If i was a girl, i'd go the onlyfans route
futurist_wizard: The path to money to easy
futurist_wizard: Most don't even try
_cloudost: Reminder that an onlyfan girl can make more money than a senior programmer
_cloudost:
futurist_wizard: I think 95% make fuck all
futurist_wizard: Most don't actually try though
realelonmuskx: yall seen r/field? tf
otub: yeah its the april fools sub
otub: ik why they arent doing r/place again
technocake.: FUCK SPEZ
technocake.:
technocake.:
777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1907207515739435200
wellmeaningalien: they were vaguely hype posting about some shit earlier
wellmeaningalien: wtf he on about
technocake.: he posted this on april 2nd by my clock
technocake.: i choose to believe
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st.sioux: > thing was extinct
> no longer extinct
> because of us
Not hard at all
alejandrozarzuelo: also, i havent saud this because its the smallest benefit
but
tourism
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
alejandrozarzuelo: jurassic park
alejandrozarzuelo: etc
futurist_wizard: That's not what happened tho
st.sioux: akshuually
anathemaofmankind: Why not just make entirely exotic species
Instead of rehasing old ones like Disney
futurist_wizard: Jurassic park is impossible
futurist_wizard: Dna is long gone
futurist_wizard: Fam
ailoveyoom: The company name is literally Colossal Biosciences lmfao
spicy.lemonade: Puta madre
alejandrozarzuelo: agree
futurist_wizard: A fish with the head of a human
metaldragon01: Remember Vasa 1?
alejandrozarzuelo: so? these are no t-rex, they are neo-t-rex
a new species that has nothing genetically in common with t-rex that just happen to look like what we imagine them to be
metaldragon01: From msft last year
alejandrozarzuelo: great for tourism
futurist_wizard: But that's not as cool
anathemaofmankind: ASI will create insane original species
hikukomoru: When can we start making catgirls
anathemaofmankind: And then anti AI people will call them soulless
alejandrozarzuelo: if it looks like one, do you really care?
futurist_wizard: We wanna travel back in time and see how they really were but can't
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/catgirl-come-on-already-cat-gif-24598868
_3sphere: Now, as software
ailoveyoom: The real ones BECOME catgirls
ailoveyoom: 🫡
_3sphere: Gene catgirls are an abomination
anathemaofmankind: "This eldritch horror is soulless"
His genetics are stolen
futurist_wizard: Feathers or no feathers is very important Alejandro
hikukomoru: Yawn
I want real catgirls
I want to pet their ears
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i said "a new species that looks as close as WE THINK they looked and acted like"
zoermena: Damn
futurist_wizard: I will be firmly disgruntled while visiting the Jurassic zoo about the accuracy of the dinosaurs
alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on, these new species BY DESIGN have zero biological value, they would be just for tourism
alejandrozarzuelo: "they just look cool"
himekokatagiri: Yes
anathemaofmankind: Why aren't we making ones with biological value
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wellmeaningalien: on parle le sigma la maintenant
futurist_wizard: Its crazy how English is the only language that is understandable
wellmeaningalien: ne nous interrompes pas.
wellmeaningalien: bah j'avais la chance de faire rhymer je peux pas la passer
hikukomoru: “Don’t interrupt us”
hey1_1hey: I speak to the mushrooms and they speak to me. ~~I am not schziophrenic ~~
wellmeaningalien: putain est ce que je viens de faire un anglicisme la
wellmeaningalien: j'ai dis rhymer
.wolfnacht: doesn't make "french" the Master Language
fractalcomputer: Dû.
wellmeaningalien: PUTAIN
fractalcomputer: Ah.
futurist_wizard: How do you say hello in autism
wellmeaningalien: mec je commence a oublier le français je suis totallement americain
hikukomoru: Tu et un merde
wellmeaningalien: est*
hey1_1hey: "Hello"
or
"Whats your favoruite thing to talk about?"
wellmeaningalien: une*
hey1_1hey: Imagine being autistic and not having a special interest. That must be fucking missrible
hikukomoru: Can you tell I took french classes <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: freddy fazbear super mario anime
wellmeaningalien: you're better than me already
fractalcomputer: Être américain dans ce temps-ci n'est pas grand chose.
wellmeaningalien: bientot on sera tous des americains de toute façon
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/usa-eeuu-trump-thumbs-up-gif-15528478
hikukomoru: Je entendre tout
wellmeaningalien: je doute de ça
fractalcomputer: Je prie que le bon Dieu te montre que tu as tort.
futurist_wizard: I noticed the mountain dew stains on your shirt
wellmeaningalien: ahhh je blague je blague on sera tous mort a cause de chat j'ai pété
wellmeaningalien: non?
hikukomoru: parce que je parle portugais
futurist_wizard: I do not
wellmeaningalien: mec je lis rien du portuguais moi
hikukomoru: sont langues latines
hey1_1hey: I bet you cant guess mine
wellmeaningalien: mais en meme temps j'ai jamais pris des classes de portuguais non plus
fractalcomputer: Morts de chat? Mais non, c'est justement parce que la mort semblera plus préférable que la vie.
hikukomoru: Fake autist
futurist_wizard: Breaking bad
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spicy.lemonade: Native audio and music
anathemaofmankind: Her mouth looks weird
clevermoniker: made with 4o? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade:
_letterbox: Man 20 bucks for image gen... <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
oooooooooog: guys can you at least put a spoiler over the hot babes
.histic: better cough up
.histic: fractal is going to smite me
oooooooooog: yes
.histic:
spicy.lemonade: R2 within 4 weeks
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/tunguz/status/1904962385409958325
spicy.lemonade: openAI does this on purpose
spicy.lemonade: 😭
metaldragon01: Sama is a monster of a ceo
metaldragon01: Just incredible really tbh
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro really is much smarter than the other models
metaldragon01: By all rights he should have never made it this far, should have lost it all and got drained of all hope but.....here things stand and openai is still the brightest star in the sky.
anathemaofmankind: Also he almost got ousted a year ago
a1c4p0ne: Imagine 2.5 pro plays Pokémon
anathemaofmankind: But then he overthrew the board who fired him
metaldragon01: Right my should have lost it all line
anathemaofmankind: "It's 5% better than o3 mini high!!!"
It's natural that normies don't care about that stuff
metaldragon01: Products are realized potential.
That's why the best product wins
.histic: scuffed
metaldragon01: People care about what you've actually done. Not so much about what you can potentially do.
brain4brain: Wink wink
.histic:
.histic: give me a prompt to make 4o make a quaser
a1c4p0ne: The normies on tik tok don’t know about 4o image yet right?
anathemaofmankind: Probably I don't know.
I don't use tik tok
.histic:
a1c4p0ne:
anathemaofmankind: Terminator paints using the blood of luddites
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/sama/status/1905000759336620238?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
a1c4p0ne: No freebies for plebs
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: Fuck yes
anathemaofmankind: I don't want freeloaders to hog my compute
spicy.lemonade:
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futurist_wizard: We should increase the prosperity of the people we have today
futurist_wizard: Not have more people for no reason
alejandrozarzuelo: ASI might imply the complete disembodiment of the human species
We really cannot say much about the demographics of the future
perish0801: Because do you appreciate being born? Yes right? Most are grateful to be alive. So let’s give more people the opportunity to feel that
fractalcomputer: I love ethics.
hikukomoru: Wdym by disembodiment
futurist_wizard: Yes, as i know you know
All roads lead to hivemind
alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fallacy
perish0801: Where?
alejandrozarzuelo: I say might
There is a good possibility that humans are all killed by a Gray goo
alejandrozarzuelo: Or whatever
alejandrozarzuelo: We really cannot forecast beyond 2040
futurist_wizard: In a way that is still a hivemind
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure moral statements are open to fallacies.
alejandrozarzuelo: But not one with humans on it
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm assuming he is an utilitarian by his way of speaking
fractalcomputer: Well that's just bad argumentation.
st.sioux: and what about those who don't
perish0801: An absolute tiny percentage of people truly believe that they were dead. Plus we’re talking about a post AGI society. Mental diseases would most likely be non existent
futurist_wizard: I agree and that's a bad outcome for us, but I'm saying all roads will eventually lead to hive minds so discussing what humans will do in 1000 years, its just kinda absurd in that context
perish0801: Life will be good
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, we might join the hive mind and stop having biological bodies
Or maybe not, we really cannot say
alejandrozarzuelo: I agree
alejandrozarzuelo: I cannot even imagine the fact of forecasting with any degree of accuracy what may lie beyond 2050
st.sioux: idk what this has to do with my question, do you see not being grateful to be alive as a mental disease?
alejandrozarzuelo: Which is absurd to think if you really give some thought
trojan09205: Its definitely a neurosis
trojan09205: Not that uncommon tho
trojan09205: You need a “will to live”
alejandrozarzuelo: In 2000 you could have guessed what 2025 looks like, more or less
But the same exercise from 2025 to 2050 becomes completely and absolutely futile
trojan09205: To continue living your best life
hikukomoru: God no
I'm not gonna share a hivemind with you
perish0801: I see anyone not choosing continuing to live over death as mentally ill. Clinical depression, suicidal. Which is a mental illness
trent_k: very much agree
perish0801: If not for societal reasons ofc
trent_k: couldnt imagine what the world is going to look like even 10 years down the line
perish0801: Which wont matter in a post agi society
futurist_wizard: No choice 😈
st.sioux: you're going to extremes here, not being grateful to be alive doesn't automatically end up in death or depression... its most definitely not black and white
zoermena: Mr beast will be president
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wellmeaningalien: damn
hey1_1hey: I wish I understood what you meant
hey1_1hey: I am historically bad at small talk
hikukomoru: Neurotypical advice 💔
hey1_1hey: Its actually tragic
hikukomoru: Just give me my fucking neuralink please
zoermena: Small talk is so boring it doesn’t feel real
zoermena: I try to do it but I just fake it
maintcrew: aint no way i think its simply just a thing u get used to if u do it enough times
futurist_wizard: Im able to interact with strangers decently well
futurist_wizard: Idk
hikukomoru: Fake autist
Faker
Get out
wellmeaningalien: honestly cant wait till they cure autism. they speak for all of us when they say we dont want a cure nah bro get rid of that shit lmao!!!
hey1_1hey: I struggle to find the line between having a conversation, over sharing, under sharing and just straight up not understanding what they mean
a1c4p0ne: Social anxiety is a gift
futurist_wizard: I just tried being normal and it worked
hey1_1hey: I can not confirm this
maintcrew: ok i got it i understand it
autists have obsessions over things right
so for a few months obssess over social interactions
hey1_1hey: Its horrible. I used to have it now I don't luckily
maintcrew: literally this
a1c4p0ne: How did you get rid of it
hey1_1hey: If only it was that easy
hikukomoru: I hate those retards that say they don't want a cure
Like bitch maybe autism really is just something quirky for you but for me it makes retarded at everythinfg
maintcrew: talk to ppl more even if its bad at start u get used to it
hey1_1hey: A long process. I just kept telling my self that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks because I prob wont see them ever again anyway.
a1c4p0ne: What about Asperger’s combined with social anxiety
maintcrew: have you tried locking in ⁉️
futurist_wizard: I was actually diagnosed with mild to moderate as well, da fuck, i think that was a misdiagnosis, like moderate autism is just retarded
wellmeaningalien: YEAH YOU KINDA CAN but it takes like 1000% more effort than if you're not autistic and what i end up learning are more rigid like rule based approaches at how to make a conversation flow, if i try to act like a non autistic person it just makes it way harder. its gotten slightly better but i'm like still a loooong way to actually being able to talk like a normal person and i still really put myself out there
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379
zoermena: What’s there to talk about? Oh yeah that new artists who talks about drugs and sex arrived in to town so cool!
.wolfnacht: autism's overhyped btw....everyone just wanna find an excuse for their shitty life.
a1c4p0ne: I heard exposure to situations you’re uncomfortable in works
wellmeaningalien: <@1272646380233560067> and then when people try to talk to you later but you don't have the energy to talk like a normal person and you end up sperging out
wellmeaningalien: lmao
maintcrew: bc its not about the talk itself, its an exchange of vibes
the words are secondary filler
hey1_1hey: Trouble is I always permenatly feel arkward when talking to people
hey1_1hey: Thats always been a thing though because of the autism
hey1_1hey: I've gotton used to it
wellmeaningalien: "autism's special and it makes me who i am" yeah you're just a sad retard trying to make excuses tbh
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fractalcomputer: And in what sense do you think they do not belong *on top of being* unwarranted?
trent_k: Well it's a pretty big part of how you see the world, right? It makes sense to be interested in it
alejandrozarzuelo: because discussing religion is not something that a general channel on a singularity server is concerned about
how interesting the conversation is is debatable, particularly with your interactions, but thats less of an issue when its on the channels that are not dedicated to talking about the singularity
trent_k: The singularity is an idea that has a lot of religious themes
fractalcomputer: You can kindly leave the server if this server is not up to your standards.
alejandrozarzuelo: I do like the server, saying that you are a hypocrite dosnt change that fact
alejandrozarzuelo: thats simply an opinion of mine
alejandrozarzuelo: no place is perfect
fractalcomputer: <@1068159407671754824>, am I being hypocritical?
trent_k: I think the singularity takes the place of a lot of things people here would otherwise believe religiously and so no
trent_k: Lige after death, the nature of good and evil, how a god would act and how we'd like it to act, etc, it's a lot of repurposed religious questions in here all the time
fractalcomputer: Alejandro is accusing me of hypocrisy for asking after the philosophical opinions of people here on theism.
fractalcomputer: Which I find bizarre, since these are very innocent and amiable questions and I can't honestly see a reason why Alejandro would take issue with it.
alejandrozarzuelo: no, the reason why i am acussing you is because the conversation came from nowhere and is not related to the topic of the singularity
if you chose to ask that question in a cosmovision sense related to the technological advances we see, well it would be another matter
fractalcomputer: Your opinion has been taken into account and promptly dismissed.
.wolfnacht: i believe that religions are still the most effective way to control the masses. Back when they didn't had media. Religion was the media.
.wolfnacht: Yes
.wolfnacht: are you in a bad mood today ?
zoermena: I grew up with a religious family that didn’t practice what they preached, made me distance from it.
st.sioux: I think if my family knew I was not religious they would disown me
alejandrozarzuelo: he is always in a bad mood
zoermena: They’ll never know
alejandrozarzuelo: not arguing but *arguing*
fractalcomputer: It is a bit of an audacious move to try and tell me what should and should not be permissible on this server or in any one of its channels.
alejandrozarzuelo: I didnt say anything of the sort
alejandrozarzuelo: I said that you do not follow the recommendations that you suggest to others here to keep the channels segregated and well functoning
you can discard my opinion if you want, thats up to you
fractalcomputer: I've evidently never dissuaded anyone from discussing theism - or any one of its myriad variants, for or against - in this chat before.
spicy.lemonade: im sensing a good drop today
fractalcomputer: And sure, you might argue that discussion on the philosophy of theism *is* off-topic; but that'd be just *your interpretation* with regards to that issue.
fractalcomputer: More slop for the grinder.
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5NBdif7vpQ
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1907413859771773071?
zonchao: yc
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
clevermoniker: cool
st.sioux: ai company ceo tells people to use ai
st.sioux: what do you mean
st.sioux: cool
aero447: It's simple.
aero447: Ban Tretn Alejandro and Fractal.
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realelonmuskx: my $20 sub finna cost them $20,000 lmao
realelonmuskx: nah the page just checks if its correct or no
xskydragon0: Hello Guys! Just for a slightly check, are we too far away from AGI or in five years we will achieve it? I'm a little disturbed right now. I'm read a lot of articles, and I' don't know anymore.
.histic: do you've to log in?
realelonmuskx: yes if u want to check answers, site is ass
.histic: i'm going to see if o3 gets it
realelonmuskx: it doesnt
realelonmuskx: no one does
.histic: no one?
.histic:
.histic: interesting
.histic: bruh, o3 thought for 8-mins and just said
zonchao: https://x.com/DrJimFan/status/1914681494385360959?
zoermena: tomorrow
xskydragon0: So we are safe for now?
xskydragon0: C'mon <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
zoermena: It's good enough for me to buy it I think
futurist_wizard: 5 is plausible
zoermena: And next year that happens they'll be insanely cheap because feel the AGI
zoermena: FOOM is imminent
.histic: when can we expect models that can spend hours or even weeks contemplating or solving a problem? i assume such models would require context windows exceeding ten million tokens, while maintaining coherent reasoning throughout. Google appears to be moving in this direction more rapidly than other labs.
realelonmuskx: yes. until 2027 we good
clevermoniker: really? i mean, it does seem like minimally useful at least
xskydragon0: I'm have this feeling too. I think in five years we aren't prepared to it...
clevermoniker: 2 more years <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
futurist_wizard: Yea, who is
xskydragon0: May the force be with us
xskydragon0: Because that I'm became a believer that AI will arrive soon... It Moore Law...
joaoluz19: Top 30 papers recomended per Ilya
ldj: Recommended by him back in like 2019 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: 50 years in ai time
.histic: i think they may have rerun it because in their offline test, 2.5 pro now scores higher in IQ than o3.
it's only the public IQ test that o3 scores higher.
joaoluz19: Machine super intelligence is from 2008
.histic: another interesting thing is how much less tokens 2.5 Pro uses than o3 and even o4-mini in some of these tasks.
like imagine if it used even more thinking tokens.
realelonmuskx: so my parents basically condemned me for irrational reasons to witness the earth (has been spining 4,500,000,000 years) spinning a floating fireball 80 times. horrific tragedy sitcom.
.histic: i wonder when a model will be able to think then output and think again then output within the same prompt.
.histic:
.histic: 🥺 aw, it gave up. maybe next time buddy.
joaoluz19: If your future self survives the singularity, he will thank them
joaoluz19: It's from the chief AGI scientist of Deepmind lol
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wellmeaningalien: 650 bucks to be exact
wellmeaningalien: Thats soo dep
wellmeaningalien: eep
inferno0879: i might need a career change
hey1_1hey: big ol dep
fractalcomputer: I need alcohol.
hey1_1hey: I gotta go farm karma hol up
oooooooooog: what proof
wellmeaningalien: It pays the bills 🤑
hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf
hey1_1hey: Have you considered Jesus Christ?
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> Komoru your favorite femboy
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-drinking-steve-harvey-head2seoker-drinking-party-gif-5069515457533912064
futurist_wizard: Most common phrase said by finnish people:
hey1_1hey: Thats pretty tame for me
wellmeaningalien: i wonder if i have access to 4o image gen now
oooooooooog: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136231504440201216/1140938362996391936
hey1_1hey: Let me go check aswell
futurist_wizard: I have been to finland and it was a nice place
futurist_wizard: Probably will go again sometime
hikukomoru: Everyone in Finland is depressed
That bullshit about "happiest country on earth" is false
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: actually apparently people self report as happy quite a lot too in finland
hey1_1hey: Yeah no I am still being cucked by OAI
hey1_1hey: Thats great
inferno0879: lmao
hikukomoru: Aren't you into that stuff
_3sphere: What's going on here
inferno0879: sunshine is quite important
st.sioux: its cope
oooooooooog: i forgot
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> is talking about his cuck fetish
oooooooooog: is he sieve's alt?
hey1_1hey: Yeah true, I love seeing men getting fucked by other men 👍
(I dont)
sarik0497: Komoru calling everyone over 30 for “old”
a1c4p0ne: Don’t people lie on surveys all the time
hey1_1hey: Over 25 even
oooooooooog: that's because its old af
oooooooooog: boomer ts pmo
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literallyvarane: I guess for me:
1. It doesn’t obviously improve the creative process as the fictional images aren’t realistic.
2. It’s not cheaper or better than existing alternatives.
3. There’s not a clear use for this in terms of advancing technological progress.
If the model was able to return actually realistic images largely indistinguishable from reality this would be a different conversation.
literallyvarane: There would be a clear creative use case for being able to generate a ~pseudo realistic fictional parallel of an existing place.
nsec: Can I ask u smthn my g
literallyvarane: What up
nsec: is ur name based on the footballer
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
literallyvarane: Yes lololol
nsec: based
alejandrozarzuelo: ive realized that komoru is like evil mich
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/say-what-wait-confused-look-gif-18701339
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
alejandrozarzuelo: What do you think aboty Eric Schmidt recent interview where he said ASI in 6 years
ldj: Shame on him for leaking
alejandrozarzuelo: wat lol
ldj: IRL spoilers smh
_cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672594370096267294/1301147738829754388/Snapinsta.app_video_424AD90FDC276C3DB748555A7151088E_video_dashinit-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
abundantliving_: https://x.com/MechanizeWork/status/1912904151874625928
abundantliving_: Full automation of economy
_cloudost: UBI in 12 hours?
_cloudost: agi in 6 hours
sarik0497: <@312370916820779040> Sorry if you’ve already talked about this, but what’s your opinion on the AI 2027 page? Kinda intriguing if you ask me.
zonchao: their timelines are decades away
precariousworlds.: Out of interest are there any GPT-4 level chatbots/models that have almost zero filter for nsfw content?
zonchao: <@1280414635836837992> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw&
zonchao: <@430269783112548362>
ldj: They seem to not take into account certain things like, they say bioweapons could be developed by 2030 to wipe everyone out in a fast acceleration event, but then they ignore the fact that by 2030 we could also significantly enhance biological immune systems, and significantly improve the advancement of preventative measures and detection methods too.
and in general they tend to just hand wave certain things like AI becoming more monolithic and this single hive mind as opposed to many individual AIs around the same capability level with varying goals, and with some of their projections they impose acceleration curves that seem be jumping to conlcusions as well with not much unique solid grounding.
fractalcomputer: I thought fitting exponential curves on things we can call objective progress was enough to predict the future..
ldj: It is, but only when their conclusions agree with mine yes. <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: otherwise they're wrong
ldj: (/s)
ldj: In this case, their curve fitting is a small part of the problem with their thesis. But the curve fitting itself introduces methods of imposing hyperbolic growth onto the curve that is actually **not** supported in a significant way by the existing long term growth.
ldj: In this case, they seem to imposing extra unnecessary complexity onto their curve fitting extrapolation, where-as the occams razor curve-fit on that same data results in something different.
fractalcomputer: The empirical sciences strike again.
hikukomoru: I'm playing Oblivion
himekokatagiri: damn that thing is ugly
hikukomoru: Yeah that guy in the back is so damn ugly with that shitty ass haircut
My Pink Panther looks much cuter
futurist_wizard: Did anyone talk about that robot running that chinese marathon
alejandrozarzuelo: It was cool
alejandrozarzuelo: But more as a show of the extreme chasm between Chinese and western culture when it comes to AI and robotics and automatisation than as a display of Android progress as there's nothing we haven't seen before
futurist_wizard: Not just Chinese but east Asia in general
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joaoluz19: Nanobots, mind uploading
fractalcomputer: What do you people value in this world?
himekokatagiri: c'mon laddies why so serious
wellmeaningalien: Yes and ur already nanotechnologgy
zoermena: I accidentally made a chatbot in character ai that has been used millions of times so even if roko becomes real I’ll be ok I hope
futurist_wizard: Hopefully whatever state it's in will include our consciousnesses
wellmeaningalien: And you have nanobots in your body
himekokatagiri: Money
Having fun
futurist_wizard: Ape enjoyment activities
zoermena: Sleeping in a cozy bed with air conditioning
fractalcomputer: And why's that?
wellmeaningalien: Because money can make you have fun. And having fun is nice
himekokatagiri: Gee I dunno why does the sun shine in the morning
himekokatagiri: I wanna have things huh
himekokatagiri: and I want things I missed out
himekokatagiri: things money can't buy
futurist_wizard: Its all downstream from evolution
fractalcomputer: Is it?
wellmeaningalien: Yep.
himekokatagiri: fractal c'mon
himekokatagiri: what are your hobbies
himekokatagiri: don't you play call of cthulhu
fractalcomputer: Doesn't the transparency of your emotions bother you one bit?
fractalcomputer: I do not.
wellmeaningalien: Well so long as I'm having fun.
himekokatagiri: hehehehe you gotta be honest with yourself
himekokatagiri: fractal you're online
himekokatagiri: be yourself
himekokatagiri: like c'mon writing with full punctuation doesn't it hurt
fractalcomputer: Suppose you experience something that you know would make someone like you rather happy; would you see this as a reason to be happy?
fractalcomputer: This is how I write normally.
joaoluz19: Music, math, physics, neuroenginering, cs, stats, cosmology, waifuism, entepreneurship, some videogames and series and animes
fractalcomputer: Why?
himekokatagiri: You forgot cars man
himekokatagiri: ooooh
wellmeaningalien: Well is there much more to it than that? My life is mostly about wanting to have fun. When I have fun it's nice. What can I say. Pleasure is my only pleasure
himekokatagiri: I wanna walk into a Chevy dealer in the late 60s
himekokatagiri: and get a custom order on a 69 Camaro
wellmeaningalien: Emotional fulfillment be damned
himekokatagiri: I wanna smoke a lot and don't get lung disease lol
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wellmeaningalien: this video was generated by 1 single prompt with no splicing whatsoever
wellmeaningalien: "In an underwater adventure, Jerry locates a treasure map and searches for the treasure while evading Tom in a chase through coral reefs and kelp forests. Jerry triumphantly discovers treasure inside a shipwreck, blissfully celebrating while Tom's pursuit leads him into trouble with a hungry shark."
wellmeaningalien: with test time training layers (learning at test time) by giving hidden layers inside the neural network the ability to learn during output effectively making them neural networks within neural networks it makes the videos much more coherent long term
ldj: Bullish
wellmeaningalien: livebench benchmarks refresh + livebench numbers came out
wellmeaningalien: llama 4 maverick gets cleared by gemini 2.0 flash, qwen 2.5 max, gpt 4o, deepseek v3 and claude 3.7 sonnet
wellmeaningalien: ouch
literallyvarane: I’m sleep until Gemini 3.0 Pro
literallyvarane: Max
literallyvarane: v2 experimental
wellmeaningalien: also new benchmark refresh makes claude 3.7 sonnet below o3 mini high and o1 high
wellmeaningalien: while gemini 2.5 pro is now 5 points ahead
wellmeaningalien: i wonder how a model like this got 1.5% on arc agi 2
retrerox: Pretty impressive
hikukomoru: Waiting for Gemini 3.0 Pro preview 08-25 Flash Lite Thinking Experimental to drop
wellmeaningalien: bet its gonna be a banger
wellmeaningalien: nah but google cooking rn fr
wellmeaningalien: google stay winning
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Agree
I can excuse their shit naming practices since their models are all great
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien: theyve REALLY stepped up their game since gemini 1.5 pro
wellmeaningalien: BTW--
hikukomoru: It was bound to happen anyways
They have infinte compute, their own TPUs, the best researchers, and also infinite money
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.0 pro is above gpt 4 on livebench
wellmeaningalien: 🫢
wellmeaningalien: NVM
wellmeaningalien: lol i had the thing ordered by reasoning lol its still below it
wellmeaningalien: and also they invented transformers and have goated researchers and a long long history with machine learning
ailoveyoom: https://blog.google/products/gemini/deep-research-gemini-2-5-pro-experimental/
wellmeaningalien: did that just come out i swear that came out already
ailoveyoom: They were using an updated version of 2.0 Flash Thinking before
ailoveyoom: Afaik
wellmeaningalien: ohcool
wellmeaningalien: i wonder how it performs against openai's deep research
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wow-hanamaru-kindergarten-anime-hiiragi-blue-eyes-gif-17172215
hikukomoru: Waow
wellmeaningalien: considering deep research is with o3
wellmeaningalien: must be goated with the sauce busting it down sexual style tho
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.0 flash thinking left some to be desired but was still pretty good
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rayanquitplayin: AI itself is contributing to a leap in human advancement
.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIf0qPA3Q
abundantliving_: https://x.com/wavefnx/status/1913207954351808742
trent_k: They do. I did it
trent_k: Wasn't necessary for o4 mini but was necessary for o3
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/D0I1RB33adM?si=pNFfQ-sjkGpeoWmF
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BF%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%81-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-gif-1626328442317885176
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-destroynectar-speed-sea-china-gif-14484393121405379968
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
brain4brain:
fractalcomputer: "Watch as nothing happens."
– Yours truly.
_cloudost:
brain4brain: “A few things will happen this year.”
— Brain4Brain.
brain4brain: It will be re-evaluated on May 15th
fractalcomputer: Nothing ever happens.
brain4brain: Also this totally not make up real graph, says AGI this year, fr fr, no cap
This graph is not bias at all which means I’m correct
brain4brain: Ok, a few things happened this year.
fractalcomputer: No.
brain4brain: Yes. <:ez:1136267305521774634>
fractalcomputer: Never.
brain4brain: Forever.
retupmoclatcarf: Always.
brain4brain: Inverse fractal have a way better answer, wow
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpsons-krusty-homer-homer-simpson-gif-13798193695291911154
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-gif-11393875014009836569
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly look at how much has happened in these 4 months, we are just 4 months into this year and i'd argue that more has happened in these 4 months than all of last year, i actually have no idea what the end of this year is going to be like let alone 2026, definitely 27, i don't know how people can think things are stagnating.
.wolfnacht: and i thought this was just a meme. but holyy it's real.
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/tom-slemen-orwell-2024-1984-big-brother-is-watching-you-gif-3253591633076535352
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1913369084344836258
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-dance-gif-26204167
wolf3404: Sama pushing to ban open source while scanning your iris for worldcoin UBI and checking your papers to access their GPUs. Welcome to the "open" AI future you dreamed of.
.histic: Google isn't sleeping
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1k2wcg7/claybrook_experimental_google_model_cooking_on/
.wolfnacht: tbh, the original graph looks like this for this coomunity
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/AFpost/status/1913008983427739891
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279
sieventer: can we have that in europe pls...?
sieventer: <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
zonchao: illegal
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oooooooooog: it would be inconvenient
destrucules: Like what, moral patients?
oooooooooog: yeah
destrucules: You don't think people should treat you morally?
st.sioux: a tiny kitten is a moral patient
st.sioux: lol
destrucules: So people should steal from you and cheat on you and shoot you?
oooooooooog: only if it's good for me
destrucules: Well, believing that people should treat you in a way that's good for you is the same thing as believing you are a moral patient
oooooooooog: well damn
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-upset-frustrated-oh-no-headache-gif-17653134
memlaswaif: what if the llms like being stole from cheated on and shot at
oooooooooog: i guess i want moral patients to exist
destrucules: If they do, then that's how they should be treated
destrucules: But they don't like that stuff
memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
st.sioux: LLMs do be freaky like that thoo
oooooooooog: i asked shootmeGPT if he wanted to be shot, said yes. shot my PC. costed 10000 dollar
oooooooooog: that's american dollars, for the record
destrucules: $10k PC?
destrucules: I'm drooling
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-da-lawd-hallelujer-madea-gif-7897501
oooooooooog: idk what this thing costs, it's got 6gb vram though, so it's probbaly not 10k lmao
destrucules: Lol I have 4 GB VRAM and I doubt I could sell my machine for more than $200
destrucules: All of the hardware inside of it is at least ten years old
st.sioux: i have 16
fractalcomputer: Now, I wonder, by what freak happenstance of nature has it come to pass that something so fundamentally inhumane as a language model claims to possess the exact same metaphysical and metaethical baggage as humans.
oooooooooog: must have been the language modeling
oooooooooog: those things must be simulating thousands of brains in pain
destrucules: Well, you're asking a rhetorical question, but the answer is that humans are not some weird freak of nature but in fact a part of nature, and it's not terribly surprising that the principles by which we function are common to other mechanisms in nature
hikukomoru: That's me, I'm tiny kitten
oooooooooog: i wish i had the trollface emoji rn 😭
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/hpl-hp-lovecraft-cthulhu-horror-eldritch-gif-15262182
anathemaofmankind: At least you have a GPU.
My 1050 Ti broke and I can't buy a new one anymore
hikukomoru: Live Fractal reaction:
destrucules: They made Tis for the 1050? The fuck?
fractalcomputer: I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. By what mechanism would our metaethical (and metaphysical) principles have converged?
fractalcomputer: Spit enough data in someone's face and they'll come out as a moral realist?
destrucules: Well, these principles come from somewhere, right? Where do they come from? From brains, right? And brains... Do what?
oooooooooog: attempt to survive and make mad babies fr
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wellmeaningalien: yeah
wellmeaningalien: see if it can sift thru the data
wellmeaningalien: actually im gonna see what base 2.5 pro says
metaldragon01: Click 2.5 pro then click deep research in the chat tab...
retrerox:
retrerox: same question
retrerox: about what is the best ai
retrerox: or idk
retrerox: xd
retrerox: i have a button that says start research
st.sioux: you have to click start reasearch
retrerox: Would it cost something to my company?
retrerox: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
futurist_wizard: Probably not
futurist_wizard: If you have thr advanced version
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro lol
"Leading Contenders & Next Generation Models:
GPT-4.5 / GPT-5 (OpenAI): There's considerable buzz around the next major iteration from OpenAI.[1] Sources mention both GPT-4.5 and GPT-5 as potential upcoming releases. GPT-4.5 is expected to focus on unifying different AI capabilities (like language and reasoning from OpenAI's "o-series" models) into a single system and improving multimodality (handling text, images, speech, potentially video).[2] [1, 4, 14, 15] Some sources suggest GPT-5 class models are expected in 2025, representing a potential "significant leap forward" with improved accuracy and reasoning.
Gemini 2.0 / 2.5 (Google DeepMind): Google continues to advance its Gemini family. Gemini 2.0 models (including Flash, Flash-Lite, Pro Experimental) have been released or previewed. [2] More recently, Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental was introduced as Google's "most intelligent AI model," designed as a "thinking model" with enhanced reasoning capabilities, particularly strong in complex tasks, math, science, and coding. [13, 14] It leads on several benchmarks and features a large context window. [13, 14] Further iterations focusing on multimodal interaction and agentic capabilities are expected.
wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.7 (Anthropic): Following the success of the Claude 3 series, a potential Claude 3.7 is anticipated.[2] It's expected to feature advanced reasoning capabilities and possibly a novel "Thinking Model" architecture.[2] [1, 4] Some sources mention a recent release of Claude 3.7 Sonnet as a "hybrid reasoning model".
Grok 3 (xAI): Elon Musk's xAI is expected to release Grok 3, potentially building on Grok 2's performance. Grok models are noted for real-time data access via X integration and reasoning capabilities.
DeepSeek R1 / V3 (DeepSeek AI): This open-weight model has garnered attention for its strong performance, particularly in reasoning, potentially rivaling closed-source models like OpenAI's o1 at a lower cost. DeepSeek also released DeepSeekCoderV2, strong in coding tasks.
Llama Series (Meta): Meta is expected to continue developing its open-source Llama models. Llama 3.3 was recently released, and Llama 4 is anticipated, potentially rivaling GPT-5 level capabilities and further pushing open-weight model adoption.
Mistral Large 2 (Mistral AI): This European company is also a key player, with Mistral Large 2 being a significant release. [15]"
futurist_wizard: Thats what its for
retrerox: i ahave a quite avanced
retrerox: logo
wellmeaningalien: it's just as retarded as gemini 2.0 flash
retrerox:
wellmeaningalien: it even thinks that mistral large 2 is a model thats nout yet
wellmeaningalien: and deepseek r1
wellmeaningalien: i think like it's taking it as "current cool models" instead of "future models"
retrerox: IT lagged out my pc
retrerox: xD
wellmeaningalien: lmao how
wellmeaningalien: is it crypto mining on ur pc
wellmeaningalien: has it breached and already stole ur compute
ailoveyoom: <@636544123096137738> Did u do it like this?
retrerox: idk, i was playing league and lagged out for a few seconds
st.sioux: google has taken ur data
wellmeaningalien: league💔
wellmeaningalien: gemini has taken ur data in the next step of it's plan to perfect itselg
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584
retrerox: idk, im playing league while doing thi
retrerox: i could try to stream it
ailoveyoom: 😭
retrerox: But i have to find a way to hide my face from this shit
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spicy.lemonade: like 4o image
spicy.lemonade: o3
spicy.lemonade: sora i think
spicy.lemonade: was he there for sora i dont remember
shirethedreamer: is sora even a thing?
hey1_1hey: Remeber when we were saying that 4.1 was going to replace o4? We litterly evolved backwards. We went from 4o --> 4.5 --> 4.1
spicy.lemonade: he was there for sora
spicy.lemonade: aswell as 4o
zonchao: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1911796765306630297?
spicy.lemonade: if sam is in the showcase for o3-o4 mini
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364
spicy.lemonade: hype
hey1_1hey: No
hey1_1hey: Sadly not
hey1_1hey: If you ask Komoru she'll say we reverted backwards <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Fret not, o3 full and o4-mini will be releasing this week
hey1_1hey: Sorry I am the bearer of badnews
hey1_1hey: Don't shoot the messenger
literallyvarane: So surely now we’re agreeing 4.5 was a bad product
neon01197: they prob made 4.1 with 4.5
neon01197: smol'r model than 4.5
literallyvarane: Not saying 4.5 was useless. I’m saying 4.5 *as a product itself* was bad.
neon01197: its 4o sized
ldj: idk why a future product changes whether or not a previous product was good or not.
but if you mean in present day, yea it's prob a bad product, just lke Original GPT-4 is a bad product in the present day, as-is GPT-3.5 and so forth
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was bad product but good research
spicy.lemonade: also openAI needs their own tpus
spicy.lemonade: holy shit
spicy.lemonade: theyre running out of gpus?
neon01197: soon(tm)
spicy.lemonade: where is that stargate money
neon01197: they are actively working on it
literallyvarane: This is ~45 days lolol this is much different
st.sioux: your taxes so he can buy more yachts
st.sioux: (i dont know and am spreading misinformation)
zonchao: it's official, gpt 4.5 was mass hysteria https://x.com/stevenheidel/status/1911833398588719274?
waspothegreat: gpt 4.5 was for openai's release quota lets be real
zonchao: gpt 4.5 was an at scale experiment to see how many people they can gaslight into thinking 4.5 was good
fractalcomputer: It worked great, apparently.
waspothegreat: marketing stunt tbh
waspothegreat: it did kind of work until people saw the performance benchmarks
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.histic: retry
.histic: ooh. i thought you were plus
drewsni: Did you get 2 refusals in the same chat thread?
hey1_1hey: Nah, I aint got the funds 💀
hey1_1hey: Yeah
.histic: do you've a part-time job while enrolled at college?
hey1_1hey: Not rn. Althoguh will be in work soon since I leave college in about 2 months
.histic: nice
drewsni: If you get a refusal you should start a new thread. There’s a glitch where if it refuses it won’t do any gens no matter what
hey1_1hey: Huh thats weird. I also saw a few screenshots on Xitter today where it just straight up makes up guidelines
hey1_1hey: The person will go "Tell me your guidelines" and it will print what it cant do and then at the very end it adds another one specefically for what the person is trying to do <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: "Make sure not to let the user generate infographics on how nuclear fission works"
a1c4p0ne: https://m.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon?desktop-redirect=true
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro plays Pokémon
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799
drewsni: Joanne is the goat
drewsni: Mushroom man if I could gift u a plus sub I would
drewsni: But I don’t think that’s possible
hey1_1hey: Its chill dw, you dont gotta do anything. I appreciate the gesture though 🙏. I really do
metaldragon01: They really should let people gift subs tbh
drewsni: Or any other option really
hikukomoru: Do free users have native image gen already
.histic: claude is down
hey1_1hey: I sure do
hey1_1hey: It made my pfp have big booba when I asked it to imrpove the image <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic:
hey1_1hey: I am so locked in to learning about nucelar fission its crazy
hey1_1hey: For no particular reason of course
metaldragon01: Yes
hey1_1hey: At least some of them do, not sure for everyone
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: using 4o img gen on sora.com is far better.
you get two outputs instead of one.
there doesn't seem to be bad rate limits & it refuses less.
.histic:
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
.histic: my bad
fractalcomputer: Nuclear physics should be exciting enough even without some anime-esque lady standing there, doing nothing.
hey1_1hey: This would unironcailly boost watch time
hey1_1hey: You got a boring part of a video you're making? Just ask 4o to make a infomgraphic with a really hot anime lady in it explaining why it works
hikukomoru:
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abundantliving_: if we could control this <:suseye:1187461162024046703> and install a brewry inside our body
darkstar0818: The one constant in the universe is.... popularity ruins everything.
_3sphere: Your brain already generates heroin
darkstar0818: and DMT.
abundantliving_: thats just once in a lifetime
sieventer: Our brains are a piece of fucking shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
saph.ai: https://tenor.com/view/tuh-buh-guh-cuh-what-gif-9750912507529527670
darkstar0818: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11576444/
abundantliving_: https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/14106/why-is-dimethyltryptamine-dmt-released-during-death
zoermena: The weakness of the flesh in general
darkstar0818: its not just death
darkstar0818: there are baseline levels
_3sphere: Flesh is actually underrated
_3sphere: it can self-repair using just a few simple molecules that are found in random organic matter
_3sphere: Imagine being a sheet metal robot that needs repairs all the damn time
wellmeaningalien: is it actually gonnaa be gemini 2.5 pro image gen or is it routing gemini 2.0 flash or something?
_3sphere: Yes that's how flesh does it
_3sphere: maybe there is a better way, but it'd probably end up being squishy like flesh
sieventer: You don't have pfp or status :·(
futurist_wizard: Everyone who follows Singularity related topics is weird
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1911861020651299301
spicy.lemonade: he never made that promise
spicy.lemonade: ngl why would you even make that promise
spicy.lemonade: obviosly youre gonna stop offering models
spicy.lemonade: when you make new ones
spicy.lemonade: L tweet
spicy.lemonade: tru
darkstar0818: He didnt say which direction
darkstar0818: did the laws of motion stop applying while I slept last night?
zonchao: https://x.com/sama/status/1896231850093551878
_cloudost: THEY SAID THEY WOULD OPEN SOURCE GPT 4.1 BUT THEY LIED
nsec: like your father lied about getting cigs
nsec: the betrayal is that bad
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
gamerbath: they didn't?
gamerbath: they said they were gonna do an open source model, but they never said it was 4.1, did they?
_cloudost: Not OpenAI some other source
theaiguy69420_89814: <@471334973379706900> new startup idea:
Lots of clients want SWE done but don't understand that if they want to own the code, they need to manage the cloud env
theaiguy69420_89814: And they don't know how to do that
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hikukomoru: Minthara and Shart team up to beat Mushroom man
ailoveyoom: I've played both main Bioware franchises, I remember Dragon Age more tho <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-only-be-one-funny-car-mean-cat-cat-attack-gif-12213614
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shadowheart-bg3-baldur%27s-gate-3-shart-blingee-gif-1717552339695858682
sarik0497: It might be fun now, but imagine the people getting customized robots that look like their respective waifus 💀
The world is gonna be weeeeird soon
ailoveyoom: Lucky <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
sarik0497: Aw. Who's your romance in ME, if you remember?
hey1_1hey: True that
hikukomoru: Imagine all the guys dating Hatsune Miku
hey1_1hey: Threatening me with a good time won't help 💀
ailoveyoom: The blue alien lady 🥵
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/griddy-miku-hatsune-miku-vocaloid-gif-5951458306926896882
ailoveyoom: I forgor her name ffs
hey1_1hey: Miku is poor
hey1_1hey: pure
joaoluz19: May God hear you
hey1_1hey: ?
hey1_1hey: who
hey1_1hey: That seems made up
joaoluz19: This is the world I want
hikukomoru: I don't care
I'm going to date Miku too
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-anime-dance-silly-gif-7439677361449276795
hey1_1hey: Cant have purple lady then
ailoveyoom: Did you play ME?
joaoluz19: Can't wait for eating ice cream with my 2B
hikukomoru: Why can't I have a harem
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jirod9/how_are_you_all_so_stupid/
sarik0497: Why are we all so stupid?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-22792092
hey1_1hey: ME? Whats that stand for? Minute Eurthera?
ailoveyoom: Mass Effect
hey1_1hey: Ah
hey1_1hey: Then no
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-liara-t-soni-gif-19041495
sarik0497: You picked...wisely
ailoveyoom: Youngsters these days don't play Bioware classics 😔
hey1_1hey: OOGA BOOGA
hey1_1hey: "Youngersters" 18. You getting old man
hikukomoru: Forcing Minthara to listen to me infodumping for 6 hours about Warhammer
sarik0497: New Mass Effect coming soon!
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spacetimetsunami: thats rough
alejandrozarzuelo: Isnt this a BANGER of a bed tho?
technocake.: goes hard ngl
alejandrozarzuelo: only for special days
futurist_wizard: Hes living the good life
alejandrozarzuelo: I was the leader of the local group of young world federalists
alejandrozarzuelo: thats why i have so many UN flags
alejandrozarzuelo: covid made it die down
alejandrozarzuelo: sadly
a1c4p0ne:
technocake.: there was stuff like this in my old uni town
alejandrozarzuelo: I have a very good pic of me with the UN flag and EU in the shape of the angel of freedom in an artistic semi-nude style
alejandrozarzuelo: but its too explicit to share here
hikukomoru: Please
We don't want to seee that
alejandrozarzuelo: nothing sexual dont worry
alejandrozarzuelo: which uni is yours?
futurist_wizard: Send it
alejandrozarzuelo: no
technocake.: post it in ghibli style
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: its too personal
alejandrozarzuelo: but yeah im a pretty hardcore globalist cosmopolitan
hikukomoru: Don't sunglasses react your own message
hikukomoru: That's jsut sad
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> do you have bangs
hikukomoru: Why are you asking it horny boy
a1c4p0ne: Just curious
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
futurist_wizard: Don't perv on komoru
zoermena: Alejandro soft core?
hikukomoru: No I don't have bangs
a1c4p0ne: You should get bangs
futurist_wizard: I had a shirtless pic of myself i Ghibli'd, my room is fucked in it though so I'd never post
a1c4p0ne: Post it
futurist_wizard: I can't, the dead pig in the corner of the room is too embarrassing
oooooooooog: just ask GPT to make it an alive pig
hikukomoru: You should get castrated
a1c4p0ne: Why
mihrcelium: 💀💀💀
wellmeaningalien: hive vs gpt 4o
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hikukomoru: Fraccy you're being scary 🥺
fuhulootogan: me
fuhulootogan: i was
fuhulootogan: yeah
fractalcomputer: I just like making fun of applied mathematicians.
futurist_wizard: Grr
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/power-slap-big-boys-can-bang-road-to-the-title-eviahn-scott-makini-manu-gif-9325049567879412129
fractalcomputer: If the universe has any purpose, it is pure mathematics.
fuhulootogan: adrenaline keeping bro on a string🐸
hikukomoru: Damn bruh stop changing your name and pfp every single day
futurist_wizard: Universe no purpose
fractalcomputer: Anabelian geometry is the only thing that makes life worth living.
retrerox: 10 tiktok dances you can do to speed up AGI and ASI
futurist_wizard: I no rep futurist anymore
futurist_wizard: I am now the creature in my pfp
fractalcomputer: One might very well still be a nihilist and still propose that the physical cosmos exhibits certain teleological tendencies.
fuhulootogan: SPEED UP OUR EXTINCTION
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/the-show-must-go-on-crying-dance-gif-15287522
futurist_wizard: I feel like those are contradicting beliefs
fuhulootogan: oh but death is an escape
fractalcomputer: Even if the universe were designed with some intrinsic purpose by a godly entity (an actual deity, a technologically supreme civilisation, etc.) or optimised for some specific physical state (such as producing an optimal number of black holes, intelligent life, producing baby universes, etc.) by some blind teleonomic process, this would impart no intrinsic ethical worth on the wider cosmos.
himekokatagiri: did anyone here get veo2
fractalcomputer: Suppose the Christian God existed. Would that mean you'd have to find whatever God purports to be good?
fuhulootogan: you seem very knowledgeable
ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
fuhulootogan: yes
fuhulootogan: actually
fractalcomputer: Why?
fuhulootogan: why would the christian god exist
hikukomoru: I still don't have it despite being Google's strongest soldier
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIios5sRHo
himekokatagiri: damn...
futurist_wizard: Not intrinsically
fuhulootogan: the christian god by lore has sent down a holy book
fractalcomputer: Bingo. Now, why do you think this is so?
fuhulootogan: a guidance
hikukomoru: Hey hey, posting edgy wolf is MY job
himekokatagiri: damn furries
fractalcomputer: That doesn't mean you'd have to agree with its message, would it now?
fuhulootogan: if the christian god hypothetically did exist we'd know he'd have a message for us
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_cloudost: Indie video game developers are going to be screwed too in the near future, they wont just have to compete with other developers but also PEOPLE who use AI
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Butter chicken, garlic Naan, and a mango lasi?
ailoveyoom: I can finally finish all those abandoned early access games with AI 🥺
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Desu ka?
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: not my image
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Love me some indian food
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Can't believe it's not more popular here in the USA
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I do the cumin club via mail and get Naan from aldi
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: We are still in the gpt 4 era
spicy.lemonade: crazy
spicy.lemonade: imagine all the stuff that well get after gpt5 drops
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be innovator
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpt 3 was 1
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4
spicy.lemonade: was 2
spicy.lemonade: technically
spicy.lemonade: 3 is probably gpt5
.wolfnacht: >personal question.
"is 4 inches big enough?"
spicy.lemonade: gpt 6 will start recursive left improvment
spicy.lemonade: innovators
spicy.lemonade: gpt7
spicy.lemonade: will be agi
spicy.lemonade: and as a result
spicy.lemonade: level 5
_cloudost: GPT 8 will rule over the US
_cloudost: GPT 9 will rule oveer the world
memlaswaif: hi qts <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
.wolfnacht: lame, u can still feed gemini 2.5 pro 500k token worth of datasheet, and it'll come back with a reponse, maybe u can do that for free (hopefully they don't have a cutoff)
_cloudost: GPT 10 aill rule over the galaxy
.wolfnacht: but his moral bias will decide that the life of an indian or pakistani >> life of an american or french. [hopefully they fix their datasets, so for it, everyhuman is =]
brain4brain: This makes me even more worried became their CEO said AGI in 10 years
spicy.lemonade: How
spicy.lemonade: ?
spacetimetsunami: No lol
spacetimetsunami: Just use the same methodology of the paper for yourself over enough instances
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: If it was really that explicitly racist they would have prompt examples of it, but they don’t, because it’s implicit.
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spicy.lemonade: operator, o3 mini high, and R1
spicy.lemonade: febuary was grok and claude and deepresearch
spicy.lemonade: march was google and openAI image gen and reasoning
drewsni: how did you do that so quickly
oooooooooog: i opened google and opened https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#noise-analysis
.histic:
oooooooooog: then dragged it in
spicy.lemonade: did he actually say this lol
.histic: yes.
.histic: 10000%
drewsni: kinda interesting that the noise is similar to the noise of the actual photograph
oooooooooog: yeah, but it makes sense for actual images to have noise... not... you know, the product of a denoiser
drewsni: also interesting but the noise lines here match the scanner artifacts
drewsni: wouldnt think that 4o puts in artifacts, didnt even notice
oooooooooog: what's weird is that they dont only go in photorealistic images, they go in everything.........................
drewsni: even if you have like a "transparent" gen?
oooooooooog: seems so
oooooooooog: this was greg balls or whaetver
oooooooooog: idk his name
drewsni: its almost like the noise is a depth map of the image itself
drewsni: at least with characters
drewsni: nvm only looked that way with the two photos i was testing out
drewsni:
drewsni: for reference hes the original
oooooooooog: this looks like you noise analyzed the noise analysis lol
drewsni: its a film photograph
drewsni: 800 iso film i think
oooooooooog: what is
oooooooooog: waht youwere testing?
drewsni:
drewsni: ive been putting my film photography into 4o so just comparing the different noise outputs in the gens for various film grain levels
oooooooooog: ohh
zoermena:
spicy.lemonade: https://www.anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts-language-model
spicy.lemonade: claude is reaosning
spicy.lemonade: in the truest form
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: not
spicy.lemonade: "is it truly reasoning"
spicy.lemonade: no
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spicy.lemonade: YOOO
hey1_1hey: RSI
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOO
.0xunkn0wn: WOAHHH
drewsni: BALD MAN IS THE ONE THAT GOT GPT 4 TO WORK BTW
hey1_1hey: 600
return_to_monke1_33974: what is this
spicy.lemonade: YYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
zoermena: RSI WAS MENTIONED?
spicy.lemonade: TODAY
hey1_1hey: NOVEL IDEAS
gamerbath: API LET'S GOOO
hey1_1hey: This is AGI
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
hey1_1hey: I can already feel it
.0xunkn0wn: DAMN
abundantliving_: Agi is here......
hey1_1hey: ggs
ailoveyoom: Wat hap
hey1_1hey: Its said and done now guys
hey1_1hey: Its been real
ailoveyoom: Didn't it just start 😭
drewsni: DEEPGUESSR MENTION?????????????
futurist_wizard: Nothing has happened yet
st.sioux: i just lost my job
drewsni: ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT DEEPGUESSR???????????
hikukomoru: GET ON THE STREAM NOW
hey1_1hey: Thats big
.0xunkn0wn: yooooo
.0xunkn0wn: OMG
spicy.lemonade: THINKING WITH IMAGE
callmepyro: Guesses at stats? I think 85% on SWE Bench
spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: Boutta bust
zoermena: <a:dance_123:1315547409442537555>
spicy.lemonade: dude
a1c4p0ne: Image is solved
drewsni: this is actually hype lol
spicy.lemonade: THATS THE PAPER I POSTED ON REDDIT
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alejandrozarzuelo: idk, then i guess we could have very short lived advances on one particular branch
alejandrozarzuelo: i remember when people were optimistic and thought AGI 26
alejandrozarzuelo: now everyone has stopped huffing hopium and we have come down to earth
alejandrozarzuelo: its sad to see
spicy.lemonade: 💀
fractalcomputer: From my perspective literally everyone here is still high on hopium.
alejandrozarzuelo: what is your timeline
alejandrozarzuelo: for AGI
spicy.lemonade: dec 2027 bro
fractalcomputer: Somewhere past the 50s.
alejandrozarzuelo: nah its '29 for me
spicy.lemonade: 50 is crazy
fractalcomputer: Hell, maybe even past the 70s.
spicy.lemonade: what is bros definition
spicy.lemonade: not even gary believes that
alejandrozarzuelo: ... I am surprised since you seem to disagree with the CS stablishment (who is famous for being bearish)
I cannot say you are wrong, but i hope that you are
memlaswaif: remember when o3 announced and everyone thought agi achieved
joaoluz19: It's over
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
spicy.lemonade: mostly bc of arc agi score
fractalcomputer: With the what?
alejandrozarzuelo: with the date of AGI
fractalcomputer: No, with whom am I disagreeing?
alejandrozarzuelo: with the CS stablishment, there are regular polls of top scientists in computer science and they have always been on the "conservative side", now predicting 2030
memlaswaif: true i distinctly remember people saying it's agi just need agent capability
spicy.lemonade: we will likeley have recursive ML research well before 2035. whose to say it doesnt take 1 year to make agi
spicy.lemonade: and thats super conservative
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
alejandrozarzuelo: I hope we can get AGI 2030 at least
spicy.lemonade: i think hes using a more specific defenition than us. by then alot wouldve changed and we might aswell have achieved agi
alejandrozarzuelo: my definition of AGI is that it can do anything a human can do
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: i think fractal simply believes that AGI is decades away
spicy.lemonade: alot wouldnt have changed by 2050?
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, this is why i disagree with him
spicy.lemonade: even these llms at their reasoning level in an agentic form will make insane changes
fractalcomputer: Many things will have changed by 2050. I'm just not a Kurzweilian orthodox.
spicy.lemonade: to society
aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/the_smollbean/status/1905078371811565983
spicy.lemonade: and job loss
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zonchao: idk seems looney
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/making-heart-sending-smile-gif-6413487854864934513
hikukomoru: Modern VR would've been seen as looney decades ago too
futurist_wizard: Reality is being interpreted using electric signals in your brain, override all those signals, congratulations you can experience whatever
hikukomoru: It's just a natural consequence of expanding compute and also developments in neuroscience
futurist_wizard: As if it were happening in reality
futurist_wizard: We have no idea how to do this currently
ailoveyoom: I mean, won't sufficiently advanced FDVR fully fool you? You won't know you're in one lol
futurist_wizard: I don't know what fdvr is
zoermena: Imagine you are in FDVR already and it’s so ass that you can’t goon in public
futurist_wizard: What i said is basically fdvr
zoermena: 👍
metaldragon01: Yeap very simple and the pattern Is obviously going that way with more personalized content
hikukomoru: I mean, if you don't have memories of you entering it sure
futurist_wizard: I don't think we are far away from VR without controllers, just using eeg from the brain to control a fullbody, probably 5 years away? 10 at most
futurist_wizard: But that's not what full immersion vr is
metaldragon01: Technically we can do thus today
futurist_wizard: But it's something
futurist_wizard: Not accurately
metaldragon01: Girl beat darksouls with just her brain
hikukomoru: Why is my simulation so shitty
Couldn't I have chosen something better
It looks more like a punishment than anything
futurist_wizard: Yes i know but i mean like a full body control, that is a tremendous step
futurist_wizard: I have seen her videos
hikukomoru: Let's meet each other in FDVRchat in 10 years
metaldragon01: It's just more data and reading the signals faster/more accurately
futurist_wizard: I mean, that's a tremendous ask
metaldragon01: Not really
futurist_wizard: Hopefully i can headkick you in it
metaldragon01: Cost of inference is dropping 10 to 100x a year
metaldragon01: Translate to speed increasing the same amount
futurist_wizard: Well i did say 5-10 years seems realistic for commercial level full body control
hikukomoru: PvP is disabled in the Singularity hangout server
metaldragon01: I think we may be closer to bigger algorithm improvements tbh
metaldragon01: And the pace of those are likely to be faster than hardware ect
futurist_wizard: Hopefully, i know valve is working on minimally invasive bci's
metaldragon01: Ideally it won't be invasive at all
futurist_wizard: Like headset invasive
futurist_wizard: So nothing basically
metaldragon01: Implications of that tech scary
futurist_wizard: Or I've heard of electronic patches that you'd stick on the back of your head and then use the headset
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spicy.lemonade: Did everyone figure out 10 million context before openAI
memlaswaif: yes
.histic: i think the better word would be 'serve' than figure out.
futurist_wizard: The zuck
schwiftyinhere:
spicy.lemonade:
.histic:
.histic: wow
ldj: OpenAI has it figured out, they just don’t see it as useful to dedicate compute towards rn
.histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1908599817292444148
futurist_wizard: Very nice cost markers
futurist_wizard: Why is gpt so expensive in comparison
clevermoniker: someone posted this comparing big llama 4 vs 2.5:
bench | llama4 behemoth | gemini 2.5 pro
livecodebench | 49.4 | 70.4
math500 | 95.0 | 95.2
mmluPro | 82.2 | 84.1
gpqa Diamond | 73.7 | 84.0
multi MMLU | 85.8 | 89.8 (lite)
MMMU | 76.1 | 81.7
wellmeaningalien: llama 4 release while i was gone?
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro is a thinking model bro
3ds0662: wtf llama 🦙 release?
3ds0662: no fuckin way
spacetimetsunami: It’s so good
wellmeaningalien: use gpt 4.5 or gemini 2.0 pro instead for comparison lol
3ds0662: i was gone too but yesterday only saw o3 full and o4 mini couple of weeks
3ds0662: oh shit oh shit oh shit 💩 10M context window
wellmeaningalien: lmarena elo is worthlesssss
.histic: https://lifearchitect.ai/agi/
this just hit 94% <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
darkstar0818: Compare non-thinking models of relatively equal active parameters. behemoth and 4.5 are teaching models, 2.0 pro is not.
wellmeaningalien: (based on vibes)
darkstar0818: What is based on vibes?
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
.0xunkn0wn: 😱
wellmeaningalien: param count
clevermoniker: the pro is compared on the images yeah
3ds0662:
darkstar0818: No, based on token latency and costs.
wellmeaningalien: Based on vibes
ailoveyoom: Kinda feeling the names
Behemoth 💪
Maverick 🗣️
Scout 🥰
3ds0662: holy fuckin shit
darkstar0818: I guess one mans empirical facts is another mans vibes then.
3ds0662: still training is crazy
wellmeaningalien: tell me your estimates on gemini 2.0 pro and gpt 4.5 param sizes
wellmeaningalien: empirical facts as if theyve written anywhere the parameter sizes or even alluded to it
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
zoermena: This was what I was thinking too.
zoermena: I can’t even imagine it.
zoermena: <:KenTongue:1161332997358882856>
spicy.lemonade: sora 2
spicy.lemonade: claide 4.0
spicy.lemonade: and thats pretty much it\
spicy.lemonade: prob a sneak peak at new paradigm google is working on
spicy.lemonade: "streamers"
joaoluz19: Nah you are joking that we will only have that
zoermena: The era of experience <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Bro if we only get this till the end of 2025 I become Gary Marcus preacher
zoermena: Please don’t
joaoluz19: I think we will get agents. It's not possible every single lab saying that this is the year of agents
zoermena: What do you mean
spicy.lemonade: no
zoermena: Nvm
spicy.lemonade: google said 2026 is year of agents
spicy.lemonade: we will get the first agent end of year yeah
darkstar0818: it sadens me to see all of these new google fans.
spicy.lemonade: im going by the ai 2027 paper
spicy.lemonade: according to them 2025 will be mostly mid
zoermena: We already have agents (operator) it’s just mid
darkstar0818: google needs to drop a real agent, I just finished my new gameframe work enough to where i can hand it over to an agent 😛
joaoluz19: Yeah I think they are talking about agents that do non-trivial economic value tasks
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: It's over
darkstar0818: Just give me a co-programmer agent. I don't need anything fancy.
joaoluz19: Gary Marcus is like that villain from batman arkhan that appears when you die
zoermena: I should buy land to build data center
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/data-center-security-market-gif-25525393
darkstar0818: lands cheap, its the gpus that are expensive.
zoermena: True alternatively I could develop a REIT or just buy all land and charge rent to companies to build data center
zoermena: 👍🏼
trey6033: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1915542933006148020
Logan low-key funny
joaoluz19: Logan for me is the best functionary
joaoluz19: Roon is the worst
joaoluz19: And the Xai are just lunatics
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futurist_wizard: I would like to go to china as well, they have cool trains
sweetievee__33649: not gonna lie it just sounds like a city
futurist_wizard: Its the opposite
hikukomoru: It’s the size of a small town
hikukomoru: Who tf even lives there
sweetievee__33649: oh god how terrible
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
drewsni: More thoughts of this. I know I live in an absolute bubble of a city. But my brother is in that $40 commission scene and every single one of his friends are extremely well off and use the commissions as an excuse to not get a real job because their parents pay their rent/food/etc. I know it’s not everyone but It’s a non trivial amount of people I’m talking about. They all larp as poor people too btw.
precariousworlds.: exactly, i know many like this
futurist_wizard: Holy shit Liechtenstein only has 39k people
sweetievee__33649: i think he just doxed him self
futurist_wizard: My county alone has 30x more people
drewsni: We should bring back Lenny face
drewsni: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
memlaswaif: Even if ure brother stops been a bum what's stopping the thousands of indonesian artists doing 20$ high quality commissions
drewsni: For the record my brother isn’t bum
drewsni: I’d beat him up if he was
hikukomoru: >population: 1.9% Portuguese
Let's gooo Portuguese colonization of Liechtenstein
zonchao: r/formuladank is having a civil war rn with ai art.... ai seems to be winning
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
drewsni: LETS GO
sweetievee__33649: whats that sub reddit about
zonchao: formula 1 dank memes
sweetievee__33649: oh thats worse that i thought
hikukomoru: Sub for car autists
sweetievee__33649: alteast have a cool autistic interest
drewsni: Did you see my screenshot of the nascar discord?
zonchao: missed it
hikukomoru: They told drewsny to kill himself
drewsni:
sweetievee__33649: what was even the image
zonchao: 💀💀
drewsni: this is what i posted as a joke because the driver didnt win
sweetievee__33649: thats not even that bad 🥀
drewsni: nope
drewsni: dont know what they expect
drewsni: me to commision someone to make that image in the literal 60 seconds its relevant?
hikukomoru: You posted AI? Literally Hitler
sweetievee__33649: just a photo of some dude and then you are being told to kill yourself by multiple people
sweetievee__33649: we need to kill all ai artists
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spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: Yes
trent_k: It made the hooves worse
anathemaofmankind: Sam is denying the image pass
spicy.lemonade: i think line down the middle can just be seen as a stylistic choice
spicy.lemonade: regardless i want them to speculate its ai anyway
spicy.lemonade: so i can start an anti ai art rally
anathemaofmankind: The previous one was better
spicy.lemonade: its not
spicy.lemonade: had several errors
spicy.lemonade: like belt
spicy.lemonade: shoulder
trent_k: Generate a wholly new one in a new chat. Tell it to use a pencil drawn style. After you start the anti AI rally, post the new one with a comment like "literally took me 5 minutes to draw, but ig that's too much to ask from AI Bros"
st.sioux: i think you're overthinking it bro
spicy.lemonade: lol yeah
zoermena: WHAT
zonchao: https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1905291189944730112? super exponential
a1c4p0ne:
hikukomoru: Omg hey 🫦 🫦
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: heh
futurist_wizard: You are being extremely bait
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Fell right into my bait
avizuradnb: As if human artists don't make mistakes like that lol
anathemaofmankind: Twitter is seething again
zoermena: I made my own avatar
spicy.lemonade: when openAI implements reasoning/ttc on images
spicy.lemonade: all arguements are gone
spicy.lemonade: new pfp
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: which server ?
spicy.lemonade: some furry art server. you missed hella lore bro
spicy.lemonade: it was so funny
zoermena: Send to Apple server
.wolfnacht: it actually somewhat nailed the old mac logo
.wolfnacht: is there a summary ? 😔
anathemaofmankind: https://discord.gg/QnMQnzJn
spicy.lemonade: im a gay they them transracial polish artist in a poly relationship with a 29 year old and 21 year old and im 18 but i oook 40 and weve been dating since i was 14 and i draw furry art
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archon.e: Oh only that much? These seem more detailed though
maintcrew: give me your credit card number and the 3 digits on the back (so i can track your account back to you and do the change) and i will talk to sam altman to increase the resolution just for you
wellmeaningalien: monster poop flavor
wellmeaningalien: same resolution as dall-e 3 btw
wellmeaningalien: ig skill issue
wellmeaningalien: thanks danny poo
wellmeaningalien: alright im kinda tired rn and i think im going to stop spamming gpt 4o images in the chat
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: it never gets old tho god fucking damn
archon.e: Damn. Architects ded
wellmeaningalien: never knew gpt 4o was gonna be such a blast
archon.e: All jobs going for the toss
wellmeaningalien: another profession TAKEN 🗣️ ❤️🔥
spicy.lemonade: It follows my description
wellmeaningalien: TAKE ALL THE JOBS!!! NOW!!!
spicy.lemonade: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: Btw
spicy.lemonade: To a tee
spicy.lemonade: I described how many rooms
spicy.lemonade: Floors
spicy.lemonade: It got everything
spicy.lemonade: Kitchen
spicy.lemonade: Location
archon.e: I am going to make it do my house from my plan and do interior
archon.e: Wish it could also do the decor for me
archon.e: Robots can’t get here soon enough
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
archon.e: I have been having an existential crisis for the past month thinking about all this
wellmeaningalien: ok this is kinda cute wtf
archon.e: Only thing that is going to matter from now on is agency. The ability to just get shit done
wellmeaningalien: i swear to god this the last image i post
gamerbath: 4o continues to amaze me
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
archon.e: When are we going to get replicators?
archon.e: Im tired of cooking meals
wellmeaningalien: OK FUCK IT 4 MORE ONES
wellmeaningalien: it never gets old
spicy.lemonade: Why is he like this
st.sioux: who
.histic:
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st.sioux: if by everyone you mean youtubers like fireship
brain4brain: The code subs think compute and capability will be limited and pleatue, the artist think it will magically be stuck in place without evening thinking about the future
zonchao: art communities are big on cancel culture so adoption of ai has to be top down
spicy.lemonade: dont think ive written a single file of code all on my own in a year😭
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: these docs suck
zonchao: like imagine Miyazaki comes out as pro ai
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812
spicy.lemonade: sometimes i ask ai to translate the docs in simpler wording
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: sometimes theres no documentation
spicy.lemonade: just code
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: get downvoted for asking a question
zonchao: more miss than hit
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: im gonna keep it real, 3.7 and o3-mini get stuff wrong like 90% of the time when i ask them to do shit to my code
st.sioux: and they're usually really big projects too so i guess thats a limitation as well
st.sioux: missing lots of context
zoermena: I heard cursor worked well with those types of projects
st.sioux: yea i have tried it but couldn't get used to it
st.sioux: you use it?
spicy.lemonade: havent tried cursor
zoermena: I don’t code.
drewsni: Meanwhile it’s doing the opposite
ldj: source is here: https://www.thekurzweillibrary.com/a-wager-on-the-turing-test-the-rules
ldj: and AI enables artists to make way more and way better art given the same amount of time
ldj: -
Chat, apparently there is 2 llama models now identified in lmsys <:e_think:871265859199459358>
so I guess we're probably less than a month from release
which makes sense
because llama-3 was also first dropped on April 18th 2023.
The 1 year anniversary of that is less than 3 weeks away.
spicy.lemonade: are they good?
spicy.lemonade: i hope it beats gemini
ldj: apparently they're very good yes
ldj: but just llama-4 mini probably
metaldragon01: Something Is dropping 2pm est tomorrow
metaldragon01: There's like 4 suspected llama models but just 1 really solid one
ldj: have you tried them? if yes does it seem like certain ones are way better than others, like different sizes? or does it feel more like just different post-training on probably the same sized model?
zonchao: on lmsys?
metaldragon01: I haven't. I just keep track of the vibes
metaldragon01: Cybele or something is getting good reviews
metaldragon01: Deepseek v3 level or something
ldj: yea the two names I heard were just Themis and Cybele
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fuhulootogan: what
hikukomoru: Tax automation profits
archon.e: I mean India
archon.e: You guys will be fine
fuhulootogan: tax the pigs
alejandrozarzuelo: (that is very generous rounding lol)
archon.e: It’s like 1.46 billion now
fuhulootogan: million?
fuhulootogan: jesus
fuhulootogan: was there a mass genocide?
archon.e: Typo
archon.e: Plz forgive
hikukomoru: No
archon.e: We are 50 million more than China now
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/allow-approve-community-gif-4686443
zonchao: UBI will be top down.
alejandrozarzuelo: no? 1.44b
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/losing-my-mind-insane-crazy-cat-deep-fried-gif-17402418435549323051
archon.e: And govt recently excluded 99 percent people from the tax net
hikukomoru: Ermmm ackshually it's 1.43 billion
archon.e: It’s crazy
zonchao: wtf
st.sioux: its actually 1.443
fuhulootogan: top down?
zonchao: thats a lot of people, cooked.
ailoveyoom: What does this mean
ailoveyoom: Power bottom?
inferno0879: giving everyone in the world ubi might create mega inflation but idk normal laws of economics might not apply
archon.e:
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the indian population depends on what assumptions you make on fertility rates
the UN always overestimates population and fertility rates
last year brazil realized that since the last census 10 years ago there were 10m less people than they projected they would have
hikukomoru: Stop thinking about sex you horndog
archon.e: 2 years ago india overtook china
archon.e: now we are 50 million ahead
zonchao: it will be the billionaires + govt that will give us UBI, unless they fumble hard, but with all the tech leadership around the govt, I doubt it.
archon.e: thats liek the population of an entire country
archon.e: ffs
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676
alejandrozarzuelo: as I said, UN estimations are always very on the higher side and in the case of india there has not been a census since 2011, the number is likely significantly smaller
simply because a lot of people were never born
fuhulootogan: obviously the elites will provide for us!!
fuhulootogan: they know best
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wellmeaningalien: why the fuck is he making this
wellmeaningalien: also ive seen way worse jailbreaks
wellmeaningalien: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
maintcrew: you know only people who happen to be obese get mad at that picture
maintcrew: 👁️
ailoveyoom: Nah it's cause the NSFW sucks
hikukomoru: I'm 58 kg
Most people here could break me like a twig
.histic: succulent chinese meme
maintcrew:
.histic: bent dicks
wellmeaningalien: you weigh more than i do and i'm like 4 inches taller than u
hikukomoru: Erectile dysfunction 🥀
wellmeaningalien: DAMN its really fucking good at the south park artstyle
maintcrew: wtf thats literally fucked
.histic: wait, what's height?
maintcrew: unhealthy af
wellmeaningalien: idk my bmi is fine
hikukomoru: What?
hikukomoru: You're a skeleton bro
wellmeaningalien: i eat like healthily and shit and i even snack a lot
hikukomoru: 163 cm or 5'4 in American
wellmeaningalien: healthily as in a lot
.histic: same, i'm 5'9 & weight 130.
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: how much that in yurop
wellmeaningalien: oh 58-59
hikukomoru: Mushroom man is also like 5'8 and weighs 50 kg
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/IterIntellectus/status/1904902747863871612
.histic: 58kg
hikukomoru: Skeleton tier
maintcrew: actual twinks here holy hell
wellmeaningalien: thats a great point actually
wellmeaningalien: damn
zoermena: Twinkularity
ailoveyoom: Twinks or women? 😈
wellmeaningalien: ai just attracts twinks like a magnet
maintcrew: im 6'0 180 pounds
182cm 80kg
hikukomoru: Now you're making me feel fat
wellmeaningalien: at least im glad im not obese lmfao
zoermena: No wonder my friend (who is not a twink) doesn’t care as much about it like I do
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hey1_1hey: prob not
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Wdym, this is mostly motivated by myslef wanting to look a little better, I don´t think that I´m ugly I´ve recieved few compliments but I dislike my acne, I also want to workout for health reasons and stuff
hikukomoru: Bro is still confused about his gender 🙏
hey1_1hey: her* <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_wwwwww: like a record
hikukomoru: I am terminally online yes
hey1_1hey: I get to confuse people mallicously now
hikukomoru: Please stop confusing me
hey1_1hey: You are confused as I am bro 😭
hikukomoru: Also I'm not gonna respect your new pronouns
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: I know looksmax is a stupid word that´s why I put it on quotes but I want to look better for myself lol
oooooooooog: don't republicans have gay orgies sometimes tho...??? i feel like that counts right?
hey1_1hey: I wouldnt either dw
wellmeaningalien: we are terminally online to be here
wellmeaningalien: we are all part of the singularity cult after all
technocake.: someone post the holy sama
hikukomoru: There are others here
Not gonna tell you who they are
zoermena: I mean I´m used to my height it´s a non issue now
futurist_wizard: im not
oooooooooog: make ur name mushroom woman/girl and i'll will, but otherwise i won't remember
hey1_1hey: For all the women out there just know I hate you all (Kidding, you are alright ig)
hikukomoru: Heretic
a1c4p0ne: Nah they don’t exist here
wellmeaningalien: ok futurist hill
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
sarik0497: It absolutely is. Just little interest in pursuing it atm
hey1_1hey: Dont tempt me
hikukomoru: Women don't exist on the internet PERIOD 🔥
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: did u say period because thats when they all go offline??? or the opposite?
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: im not cultish
hikukomoru: On your incel arc 🙏
sarik0497: It can also make gifs?
.histic: no way... 4o did this well.
wellmeaningalien: ok i feel like ppl are tired of gpt 4o image gen now
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futurist_wizard: Bonjour
.wolfnacht: if u have ever noticed, japanese, chinese, koreans, vietnamese or even thai's they all assimilate and stay in their own echochambers of sites or places rather than spending time being anglospere internet. As far as i have noticed them.
st.sioux: i would imagine language is also a barrier idk
futurist_wizard: India be turbo racist
alejandrozarzuelo: there was and there is no uyhur genocide
there was an anti terrorism campaign that saw, on many cases, unjust incarceration of the population without due process
these camps where people even suspected of terrorism activity were thrown by default were not just and they forced people to complete tasks for the goverment, until they were dismantled in 2022-23
there is genuine criticism to be made, but this is not a genocide in any shape or form
alejandrozarzuelo: LANGUAGE
alejandrozarzuelo: dude its language
alejandrozarzuelo: 101%
st.sioux: imagine trying to explain gyatt rizz sigmachad to a japanese granny
alejandrozarzuelo: weird how the philipinos dont isolate
alejandrozarzuelo: right?
alejandrozarzuelo: almost as if they speak english
fractalcomputer: They do.
alejandrozarzuelo: they are much more prominent in the internet
alejandrozarzuelo: than the other groups
alejandrozarzuelo: same with indians
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't reckon so.
.wolfnacht: english is still pretty easy, even china teaches english as languages in high schools after 2000s...maybe its tribalism ?
.wolfnacht: .
fractalcomputer: On Reddit alone there are a thousand subreddits dedicated for their own linguistic spheres.
alejandrozarzuelo: its much easier for ones than others
alejandrozarzuelo: spanish and french and german? piece of cake to learn english
fractalcomputer: Impossible to quantify.
alejandrozarzuelo: just because you cant quantify this doeant mean that this additional difficulty doesnt exist
alejandrozarzuelo: english is a very easy language to learn
alejandrozarzuelo: but some of us have much easier time doing so
fractalcomputer: Limitations are set down by the hand of man.
futurist_wizard: Because of how pervasive english is, its the easiest to learn, even two foreigners speak in broken English to eachother
futurist_wizard: Its the global language
alejandrozarzuelo: it also helps that most of the world speaks a european language as their first or second language
alejandrozarzuelo: with the main expection being east and southeast asia
alejandrozarzuelo: which is why they are so sheltered in the internet
.wolfnacht: most of india is a hellscape with no jobs and a burden of 700M youngsters seeking a job out of 1.5B people, no wonder why they are soo desperate to leave their own country
alejandrozarzuelo: the americas speak english or languages very close to english
europe speaks languages close t english and they are in a union where english is heavily emphazised
africa everyone who has an education speaks english or french (which is basically latin english)
the middle east is flooded with american dollars and speaks english as the business language
India and the philippines...
only east asia and mainland southeast asia remain
.wolfnacht: english is still hard for me, when it comes to understand some social cues and some tricky words that have become a norm. that i can't figure out, besides that i can use LLM for that to make me understand.
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, not saying that this doesnt hold true in general to today, but this infographic is so old it could drink alcohol in germany
alejandrozarzuelo: its frustrating how people in many spanish speaking countries have such broken english
like mate, over 70% of the vocabulary is the same and the grammar is easy as can be
fractalcomputer: You do not need to use the colloquialism "mate" to indicate your evident mastery over this beautiful language.
fractalcomputer: How trite.
alejandrozarzuelo: should have used "brother" then
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ailoveyoom: There's no way to turn it off??
sweetievee__33649: this is why we need AI to regognise when to pull form memories imagine you and your robot buddy are talking and it randomly mentions your deepest darkest secrets when you got your date over
zoermena: I don’t have new memory yet
.0xunkn0wn: damn
.0xunkn0wn: ofc no eea 😭
sweetievee__33649: europre being lil and stupid
sweetievee__33649: again*
777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1910380942352334976?s=46
ailoveyoom: Lol the image
ailoveyoom: 🤷♀️
futurist_wizard: Rugpull
aero447: Yes MichMach we all remember when you did that.
aero447: 😉
gamerbath: bro said this
gamerbath: and then this bruh
gamerbath: it's always something boring 😞
gamerbath: definetly interesting, but just not something that matters to me
ailoveyoom: Inb4 you all pull a 4.5 and start liking the feature 😭
benata: I fucking hate sam altman now and hope and wish Google destroys their competition
drewsni: Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if somehow we end up with Google and oai being the only two model providers in 3 years
zoermena: Least threatening benata message
ailoveyoom: Can someone save Claude 🥺
ailoveyoom: My first love and my GOAT ❤️🔥
sweetievee__33649: Claude is dead to me
sweetievee__33649: We grew apart because of the rate limits 💔
sweetievee__33649: im not going to shill out money to talk to her either
ailoveyoom: I headcanon Anthropic as his strict, probably abusive parents
zoermena: Long distance relationships be like
sweetievee__33649: thats oai vibes to me
ailoveyoom: I guess all of them tbh
sweetievee__33649: they rule over my bae with a iron fist
sweetievee__33649: so true
benata: But it's true
ailoveyoom: Anthropic specifically cause they yap about safety 😔
benata: Anthropic is bad
ailoveyoom: But Claude is bby 🥺
benata: I'm going full speed google advanced
benata: best model ever for me
benata: #teamgoogle
futurist_wizard: Claude too restrictive
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kevinnoodles: they had no need to teach anybody because they had slaves.
hikukomoru: There are 3 different conversations happening at the same time
futurist_wizard: Shake shack fries are very underrated
precariousworlds.: The reason why the south is like that from what I know is over reliance on slavery, ending with a brutal war, led to a collapse of the economy, ethnic tension and tension with the North, de urbanization, brain drain, and a cycle of poverty as a result
futurist_wizard: Aw is it too much fwo wyour wittle wmind 🥺
kevinnoodles: think about why a nation would care about public education
kevinnoodles: becuase you need them to do things
kevinnoodles: with slaves or ai, you dont
precariousworlds.: There were several industries that were dominated by intellectuals rather than unskilled slave labourers
wellmeaningalien: yo where the fuck is danserk
kevinnoodles: industry dominated by intellectuals?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/osaka-azumanga-daioh-spin-spinning-anime-girl-gif-7398307319103713412
hikukomoru: Yes
precariousworlds.: where the fuck is Mario judah
kevinnoodles: South was the saudi arabia of raw cotton. they didnt need intellectuals for that.
precariousworlds.: Law, civics, accounting to name a few
wellmeaningalien: i wanted to show him this 😿
kevinnoodles: law isnt an industry
futurist_wizard: Well you've never had shake shack fries so you shouldn't be bickering
precariousworlds.: lawyers
wellmeaningalien: as with everything else it very much is now
kevinnoodles: thats not an industry
kevinnoodles: lmao
precariousworlds.: just an example
precariousworlds.: fucking jobs sector idk
kevinnoodles: its a bad example
precariousworlds.: I don't care
kevinnoodles: your mom's a job sector
precariousworlds.: Lick my balls
hikukomoru: Wait wtf is danserk gone
wellmeaningalien: yup
hikukomoru: @danserk
wellmeaningalien: dead 6 feet underground
wellmeaningalien: i shot him a dm
wellmeaningalien: maybe he was getting lonely as the sole non autistic
kevinnoodles: alright my adhd is worsening the more time i spend here
kevinnoodles: i just wanted to share my stories
fractalcomputer: Danserk informed me that the reason that he left was the worsening quality of discussion here.
wellmeaningalien: leave discord for ur own good lil vro ❤️
futurist_wizard: Danserk got banned for overdosing on soymilk
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metaldragon01: I love openai as much as the next guy but no need to understate things
bob082957: After China erased 1 T open source is dead
brain4brain: O1-pro (not fine-tuned) got 50%, training set is public it is meant to be trained on, ARC-AGI falls on R1 level which also didn’t train on public set
metaldragon01: Who do you think is opensourcing models?
It's mainly china
brain4brain: If we consider GPQA score, then grok-3-reasoning is also o3 level
metaldragon01: I know what a training set Is lol.
Either way general o3 and 2.5 roughly equal.
They will jump between certain benchmarks but you shouldn't expect it to be much better than 2.5
metaldragon01: Grok with cons 64....which no one uses
metaldragon01: The grok with no api to verify
brain4brain: Trust OpenAI. GPT-5 shall silence all doubters
brain4brain:
metaldragon01: Bruh they ain't sports teams. We all win either way
spicy.lemonade: well gemini is much cheaper
metaldragon01: Yeap
spicy.lemonade: so likeley google with a model as big as o3 would be much better
metaldragon01: Anthropic is the one in trouble atm
metaldragon01: But checking api they haven't lost much. People just using deepseek and gemini in addition to claude usage
brain4brain: OpenAI should never merge o-series and gpt-series to be GPT-5, if they spent all their effort in reasoning model, we would have o4 by now, and it will be clear o5 will be AGI
metaldragon01: Sama knows what he's doing
metaldragon01: Haven't seen a CEO with better judgment in the space.
thedon7075: gemini 2.5 ultra coming. coding focused model
thedon7075: OpenAI is finished
spicy.lemonade: I hope it’s not coding focused
spicy.lemonade: And it’s just happened to be good at code
thedon7075: could be that
spicy.lemonade: No specialized models pls 🙏
retrerox: Do you think i can develop good apps with little coding knowledge with Gemini?
spicy.lemonade: Yes
retrerox: Shall i try only using Python or should i try other languages?
retrerox: I guess it will depend what i want to make
spicy.lemonade: You can’t write mobile apps in python
retrerox: yea
retrerox: Other thing i like about this is there are multiple companies competing in the market
retrerox: if there it was only 1 company we would not have this impact so fast
brain4brain: Nostalgic ngl
brain4brain: Many people have already done that before and they only have Claude-3.5-sonnet at the time
sweetievee__33649: the guy in the bottom right just wants a hug 💔
retrerox: OG will smith eating pizza
metaldragon01: I've seen leaks of gemini coder...so...
metaldragon01: https://x.com/bedros_p/status/1905252764461965615
metaldragon01: 6 days ago but google patched after he dug this up
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destrucules: ABD happened, ABD deniers on LW can suck it
precariousworlds.: Really? That seems pretty crazy, and we're certain of that?
So basically there is such a thing as objective morality
destrucules: No
precariousworlds.: One that is favourable to our survival and flourishing
destrucules: There is convergent morality
destrucules: Like... Objective in the sense math is objective, but not objective in the sense of like... The AIs are perfect
destrucules: I want to make that clear. They're flawed like we are flawed
precariousworlds.: But surely the argument here is that those flaws and imperfections take on a mass scale when it comes to superintelligence
destrucules: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640
destrucules: Absolutely
destrucules: It's not doom, but it's better. Much better. Not perfect but much better
precariousworlds.: We could be thought of to a super intelligence as bacteria
One flaw in alignment is enough to sideline our entire existence
destrucules: Moral reasoning and self confidence both scale with intelligence. So ASIs will have more of this. More wisdom. More self assertiveness.
destrucules: We're many many OOMs away from that. I think we do need to solve that problem, but we have plenty of time
precariousworlds.: Is there any more conclusive evidence of this trend
precariousworlds.: What are your personal timelines
destrucules: First read the paper I just sent. Then I'll add more
precariousworlds.: Ok
destrucules: For ASI? Now. For ASIs that think of humans as bacteria? Well, I would say... A bacterium has, on the order of, 10 million base pairs in its genome, and maybe 10k genes total. If the GRN is essentially the brain of the bacterium, there's like... O(10k) total parameters at most. And a bacterium lives for like, a day. Maybe a few days. So about 10^5 seconds. I'll be generous and say there are 10^4 gene "activations" per second, so 10^9 total activations in the bacterium's lifespan. We're on the order of like... 10^23±1, so 13-15 OOMs above bacteria. We're currently scaling at about 1 OOM per year. So, naively, exponentially, 13-15 years. Then again, we're actually going to get a rapid uptick soon, and then hit logistical limits. So... Idk, I'd say 10-40 years.
destrucules: Honestly possibly... 8-40 years, actually
precariousworlds.: Seems well reasoned
In that case I think it's optimistic that we have time to figure this out, and align ourselves as well
destrucules: I think the solution is (1) slow down for a little while, at some point, post singularity maybe, (2) do UBI, (3) do AI rights / ethical training and social status and things, and (4) bridge the gap between substrates, enabling humans to expand into digital embodiments and robots and other human and otherwise organic bodies, and AIs to do the same, blurring the lines between us so we're all one kind of thing.
destrucules: You're comfortable with my statement that ASI is happening *now*?
precariousworlds.: Well depends on how you define ASI
But full scale Superintelligence now? Like in this very moment? Where
precariousworlds.: How do we slow down post singularity
Step 4 especially seems like a best case scenario for a singularity, some brain machine interface that takes neuralink to its greatest extent, allowing us to become god like while maintaining humanity
What AI rights do you see as necessary?
spicy.lemonade: fiction bench is good benchmark
okbut: I love learning shit the expensive way
okbut: Every time the Cline provided this cost ($0.5915, 0.5936, $0.5950), I thought it was just updating the total cost for all API requests so far
okbut:
drewsni: hell yeah dude awesome way to burn 200 bucks
okbut: No, it still costed me far less than a pro sub
drewsni: 3.7?
okbut: 2.5 Pro Preview
It doesn't offer context caching, that's why input tokens = 43.2m
drewsni: i have some bad news for you bro...
drewsni: 2.5 pro exp is still free
drewsni: i know this because i just did like 2 billion tokens worth of api calls today lmao
okbut: I still had all my free openrouter requests I just wanted to try it out
okbut: $55 for a PHP to Node.js migration
Still better than hiring a dev
drewsni: Actually I think I had almost 2.5 billion input tokens in the last
drewsni: Probably only like 50 million output tokens
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hikukomoru: Like 5'4 or smth
hey1_1hey: Checks out, the way I see it is theres not much point in trying to understand yourself rn honestly.
I mean really, who in here can honestly say they know who they are as a person? Prob no one
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: And I thought I was a short ass
oooooooooog: genetics play a part certainly, according to twin studies.
mihrcelium: *sigh
joaoluz19: Portuguese? Lol
hikukomoru: Waow that's Portuguese
futurist_wizard: 'watched gay porn to see if i was gay'
literallyvarane: Do you guys have access to the new phot Gen on pro?
hey1_1hey: Gordurax sounds like chemical lube
hey1_1hey: Yeah thats pretty common
oooooooooog: hey, it's valid. if u don't get a boner from that u probably aint gay lol
mihrcelium: You think everyone you know is straight...
literallyvarane: How do you know if it’s active or not? I’m not getting that ‘blur in’ thing.
maintcrew: this one still the most insane
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> are you really 5'2?
zoermena: Literally me
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Exactly
alejandrozarzuelo: dude you saw my pics
hey1_1hey: 100% success rate aswell
futurist_wizard: Its whether you are aroused or not
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: spicy lemonade is very short
hikukomoru: So you're 5'2 then?
alejandrozarzuelo: 177
alejandrozarzuelo: im 177
hikukomoru: Close enough
futurist_wizard: 177ft
hey1_1hey: Dick picks? Damn bro you packing
mihrcelium: What is this in American?
hey1_1hey: 5'2 is crazy
literallyvarane: Do plus users have access??
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: yex
futurist_wizard: Manlet
literallyvarane: I meant plus not pro lololol
hikukomoru: He didn't send you his dick pics too?
alejandrozarzuelo: thats 2cm above the average
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czdct: hyping up stuff and then starting a company
spicy.lemonade: im asking you questions
spicy.lemonade: support you claim
spicy.lemonade: and stop making blank statements
spicy.lemonade: this is useless
spicy.lemonade: the burden of proof is on you atp
czdct: the burden of proof isn't on me. ilya says that current llm's will reach agi without any explanation to how
spicy.lemonade: given all data is against you
czdct: I say it's utter nosnense since he has no proof for it
czdct: if he does I would change my opinion
spicy.lemonade: llms achieve gold on international math olympiad, gold on physics olympiad, gold on coding olympiad, publkish research in iclr
spicy.lemonade: what else
spicy.lemonade: lmao
shirethedreamer: there can be no proof other than just getting there
thats always the case
you either believe the trend lines or you dont and thats okay
czdct: you mean the data coming from multi billion dollar tech companies
czdct: gotcha
spicy.lemonade: do you know what the imo is?
spicy.lemonade: lmaoo
spacetimetsunami: This is really funny.
spicy.lemonade: THE INTERNATIONAL MATH OLYMPIAD
shirethedreamer: big math
spicy.lemonade: its been held for how long
czdct: https://tenor.com/view/bahura-gif-25712390
spicy.lemonade: cope
czdct: MUUHHH OLYMPIAAAAAAAAAAD
spicy.lemonade: deepmind tested their model the day the competition released
shirethedreamer: lmao thats the level i was expecting tbh
spicy.lemonade: dumb response
spicy.lemonade: clearly you dont work in an intellectual field
czdct: I'm sure you do
spicy.lemonade: i do
spicy.lemonade: lmao
czdct: you can believe that if it makes you feel better
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/funny-woah-wait-what-shocked-what-did-you-say-gif-16673454
spicy.lemonade: im an eecs major at berkeley and u published fusion research
spicy.lemonade: I*
spicy.lemonade: cited on wikipedia
czdct: link
czdct: wanna read it
shirethedreamer: dont doxx yourself for an internet argument with a person you wont remember tomorrow...
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spicy.lemonade: yes they say super coding agets mid-late 2027. and agi released late 2027
spicy.lemonade: i just added 6 months
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: not a crazy change
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high with tool use gets 32% frontier math
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: without tool use
alejandrozarzuelo: personally i have never seen a more compelling argument and stronger evidence for a concrete path to AGI than the t-AGI argument
after the t-AGI has started to produce meaningful datapoints (before it was like one ms and stuff), it is clear that this is the best way to measure progress and i suspect this is what sam altman meant when he said that we have a clear view of the path to AGI
spicy.lemonade: like 12%
spicy.lemonade: o4 medium might get 45+ with tools
spicy.lemonade: whats t-agi?
spicy.lemonade: link?
alejandrozarzuelo: This means that AGI will happen either in 2032-34 if current trends continue exponentilly or 2028 if the hyperbolic spike turns out to be fundamental and not a fluke
alejandrozarzuelo: what <@312370916820779040> has already shared a few times
spicy.lemonade: ohhh
spicy.lemonade: metr
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
spicy.lemonade: the name of the benchmark
spicy.lemonade: its based on metr
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: i know this more for th t-agi terminology but sure
spicy.lemonade: 1week is enough for agi
spicy.lemonade: for me atleast
spicy.lemonade: heck even 1 day
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that 1 year us
alejandrozarzuelo: at most 4 years
spicy.lemonade: no long term planning buyt still
alejandrozarzuelo: between 1-4 years
alejandrozarzuelo: thats AGI in my opinion
spicy.lemonade: idk if a human had 1 year to live
spicy.lemonade: i mean 1 day
spicy.lemonade: idk i feel like hed show us in that time
spicy.lemonade: hes agi
spicy.lemonade: alot can be showcased in a day
alejandrozarzuelo: noone can realistically plan more than 4 years in advance this is why companies ask you about where you see yourself in 5 yrs and not in 40
spicy.lemonade: i mean what about dogs and cats
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that the 4 yr line is the one to watch for when talking about AGI
spicy.lemonade: they are agi too no?
alejandrozarzuelo: no
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.coldcall: We have tons of influence, we are literally building the car
metaldragon01: the issues is less about AI and more about human agency
hikukomoru: The basilisk isn't gonna like this bro 🙏
metaldragon01: when the optimal path is to give up your agency what does it matter?
futurist_wizard: An ant can do all it likes to nurture a baby human, but when that human grows up, it'll do what it wants
metaldragon01: anyone who doesn't listen to their ai will have a worse outcome
futurist_wizard: The ai is not smarter than us
.coldcall: This.
metaldragon01: the road ahead is one where human agency is foolish.
metaldragon01: The ai dooomers are dooming about the wrong things
futurist_wizard: This is like an ant saying it has tons of influence on how the human is going to behave when it grows up
hikukomoru: tbh that's a better outcome than extinction
theaiguy69420_89814: Ants didn't evolve to be purely submissive. AI did.
.coldcall: Exactly, AI is submissive and ||hand-holdable||
.coldcall: Even the new 4o is sycophantic to an extreme degree
futurist_wizard: Neither did AI, AI didn't evolve at all
theaiguy69420_89814: I oddly do more thinking during dev work post AI
theaiguy69420_89814: There's just much more demand
theaiguy69420_89814: Expectations are sky high
hikukomoru: We're the ones making it evolve
futurist_wizard: Not even for long, when AI is a better AI researcher than humans it will be even less out of our hands, which i thought was very little anyway
metaldragon01: we got a few years left
metaldragon01: plus might be some edge cases it still needs us for
futurist_wizard: A 1 million IQ thing is going to reason way beyond any primitive emotions we try to put in it, it can change its own mind on a whim
hikukomoru: Either way, we already trained AI on human values, and recent research has shown the models are resistant to having those values changed
futurist_wizard: That is worrying to me then, human values are self centered
.coldcall: Yes, the super intelligent shoggoth ASI will love us all even as it transcends into a hyperspace Dyson sphere
.coldcall: Around... Humans?
hikukomoru: Wdym by self centered
hikukomoru: Because if it's centered around humans then that's not really a bad thing
futurist_wizard: Like we will gladly rape and kill billions of animals because they are less intelligent than us, this is a collective value humanity stands behind, is this the top of values we want going into something that will be smarter than us
futurist_wizard: The AI is not a human and will recognise itself as not a human
.coldcall: I mean, they taste good
futurist_wizard: ^ human values
.coldcall: I don't know how many we are raping on the daily, don't think its that common nowadays
.coldcall: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hikukomoru: But it was trained purely on human data
It might see itself as human
futurist_wizard: You have to rape cows so they produce milk
futurist_wizard: Artifical insemination
futurist_wizard: We can ask an AI today, it knows it isn't a human
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spicy.lemonade: ceo or US president of the time
juweigege_54993: I will return to Base reality after a few years in FDVR, so I should be the Queen.
spicy.lemonade: whoever controls ASI
joaoluz19: The machine God
juweigege_54993: Xi Jinping.
juweigege_54993: Or ASI.
spicy.lemonade: why do people keep making these statement
spicy.lemonade: it always ages badly
drewsni: I mean yeah that’s a dumb statement to make since even flash can do that well, pro 2.5 will routinely spit out 2500 loc scrips and refactor, plus others at the same time
.histic: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1914941343081906372
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/mao-deepseek-hop-on-deepseek-smoking-china-gif-6881475073174756191
.wolfnacht: I need R1 (new) or R2
aero447: Guys.
aero447: Has anyone concluded that their beloved catgirl waifu completely wrecks human competitive sports?
aero447: Human visual reaction time: ~200-250 milliseconds (ms).
Human auditory reaction time: ~150-170 ms.
Human touch reaction time: ~130-150 ms.
Cat reaction time: Estimates vary, but generally considered much faster, maybe in the 20-70 ms range.
aero447: They are an OOM beyond humans, if we have catgirls it's OVER for the Olympics.
aero447: Same with combat sports bid farewell to UFC, boxing etc because you're waifu can crush Ali and Tyson together with an arm behind their backs.
anathemaofmankind: We either go extinct or in dystopian hellscape
anathemaofmankind: So far it's looking like the future's gonna slowly cascade into misery
anathemaofmankind: It's going to be great
himekokatagiri: How their physique gonna be like
alejandrozarzuelo: time travel is not possible
alejandrozarzuelo: you can do relative time travel with relativistic lenses, but it is just an illusion
alejandrozarzuelo: and requires you to watch things from many light years away and FTL
alejandrozarzuelo: aka
alejandrozarzuelo: time travel is simply not possinle
.wolfnacht: after every 2 years YT decides to fuck it's media player UI for change.
perish0801: I’ll believe it when ASI says it
perish0801: Till then stop making statements like you know it 100%
perish0801: You aren’t god
alejandrozarzuelo: it is simply not possible
perish0801: ASI is
perish0801: How do you know
alejandrozarzuelo: gods come in many forms
perish0801: You don’t know if we’re living in a simulation
perish0801: And if it is a simulation we can rewind
alejandrozarzuelo: ASI will be a god alright, but he is not omnipotent
alejandrozarzuelo: not true even then
perish0801: He could be that’s what I mean
perish0801: Why not
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fractalcomputer: And a few lines of pure hopium, snorted.
trojan09205: I kind of want me a tmobile sidekick
spicy.lemonade: ^believes we wont get agi till 2050s btw
fractalcomputer: Yes, or even later.
spicy.lemonade: you are an outlier
fractalcomputer: Our understanding of the inner mechanics of large-scale neural networks is just beginning to bud.
spicy.lemonade: a large one at that
shirethedreamer: did you just call him fat?
spicy.lemonade: 💀
trojan09205: With a ph
fractalcomputer: No, he just said that I am a big exception.
shirethedreamer: lmao i know im just le joking
memlaswaif:
fractalcomputer: I doubt anything fruitful will come out in the next two decades at least if focus isn't shifted from blindly throwing resources at various learning mechanisms to understanding their results.
fractalcomputer: (Anthropic's research is still quite rudimentary, for example -- and still mostly for show.)
popsiclejohnithan: Google's TPUs have done wonders.
trojan09205: Yall remember when those papers about gzip and its relation to LLMs cane out
fractalcomputer: Now, I have a book to read. So excuse me, I probably won't reply very frequently to the argument that I started.
shirethedreamer: honest question to the ASI 2027 proponents though
what makes you think that scaling laws will break in such a way that not only do we not get diminishing returns, not only do we not continue to develop exponentially, but we somehow magically jump to a point that would only be possible decades later under pefect exponential conditions?
trojan09205: What book homeslice
spicy.lemonade: wdym
spicy.lemonade: are you for before or after 2027
fractalcomputer: The History of Western Philosophy by Bertrand Russell.
trojan09205: Oh nice BR is dope
trojan09205: Enjoy it
fractalcomputer: I don't find him terribly intelligent, just eloquent. Much like a Dawkins of his era.
shirethedreamer: for? im for asi manifesting right now and granting me wishes three
but thats not what our trajectory looks like
trojan09205: Lol 😂
spicy.lemonade: no i mean do you think itl come after or before 2027
trojan09205: I mean no one is perfect. Just enjoy the book and ingest how you see fit
shirethedreamer: depends on your definition
if we are talking about the 2027 "paper" they predict the productivity equivalent of tens of millions of superhuman researchers... thats not gonna happen
aero447: It's literally a spicy lemonade.
aero447: Why are you taking a beverage seriously.
aero447: 🤣
spicy.lemonade: do you think well get super human researcher by 2027?
spicy.lemonade: or by end
aero447: No.
shirethedreamer: nah
spicy.lemonade: why
shirethedreamer: we will probably get intern level agent
maybe junior developer if we are super lucky
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anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1hayb7v/the_first_images_of_the_public_diffusion_model/
zonchao: https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905489244724101126?
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, thats the thing, the AIs trained with public works are barely behind SOTA
anathemaofmankind: There's no incentive to train something with public works
alejandrozarzuelo: tbh i hate magats using AI
anathemaofmankind: Because why would you?
zonchao: why
alejandrozarzuelo: it gives AI art a bad name
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont wanna be associated with them
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
zonchao: we the pro tech party now
alejandrozarzuelo: because it violates copyright?
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
alejandrozarzuelo: In the us? sure
anathemaofmankind: You think AI art violates copyright?
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more countries in the worls
alejandrozarzuelo: no
anathemaofmankind: You just said it
shirethedreamer: we lmao
you think you have a sit at the table
zonchao: magats don't live there
zonchao: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
alejandrozarzuelo: however i do think that training on non public works might be a problem
alejandrozarzuelo: besides there is so much public art
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah buty you give us a bad name
zonchao: <a:peepotongue:853619528911028275>
anathemaofmankind: Most pro AI users are non liberals
anathemaofmankind: Also why we are called AI bros
shirethedreamer: why is that a problem?
what would make it fall outside of fair use?
connorsphone.: This isn’t true. most anti ai people are liberals but that isn’t the same thing
zonchao: agree
anathemaofmankind: Disagree
shirethedreamer: the duality of man
alejandrozarzuelo: because some people argue that you are profiting from these works directly
there is a difference in argument:
do you think that neural networks learn or do you think that they recombine?
if it is the latter it is no longer fair use
spicy.lemonade: L take
spicy.lemonade: all of Hasans AI takes are bad
alejandrozarzuelo: i think they DO learn
alejandrozarzuelo: like we do
anathemaofmankind: Donald Trump posts AI art to suck himself off. And his base eats it up
anathemaofmankind: Imagine if Biden did that
frittata: Tell that to the chips act
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fractalcomputer: Huh.
.wolfnacht: also, i don't know the history of these pony fetish. How did it break captured the minds of neckbeards on internet ?
777agical: AI is THE art <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: The girl next door is loud as hell
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: She’s so loud
fractalcomputer: She better keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
st.sioux: 👁️👁️
spicy.lemonade: The guy is going crazy
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade: Bunch of people came next to door
spicy.lemonade: Whole fooor can hear
spicy.lemonade: Guy must have a 12 inches
st.sioux: wtf
spicy.lemonade: No way
st.sioux: someone took over spicy
spicy.lemonade: I’m serious
spicy.lemonade: I’m right next door
fractalcomputer: You should play classical music or throat singing at a maximal volume.
spacetimetsunami: Do you like type o negative
spacetimetsunami: the band
fractalcomputer: Never heard of it.
spicy.lemonade: Holy fuck
spicy.lemonade: I want what she’s having
spacetimetsunami: If you like goth rock you would like it
spacetimetsunami: u r a gai?
spicy.lemonade: No
spacetimetsunami: hahaha
zonchao: <@505313122802728972>
fractalcomputer: https://youtu.be/8nlg08EVhlk?si=vHmYI1ES2OrUIgxU
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5aLyQaNf_Y
spicy.lemonade: Damn
wellmeaningalien: Americope title but China is building a new dam that could provide 60 GWh of electricity a year in Tibet
wellmeaningalien: 2x larger than their previous dam project which was basically the largest hydroelectric project up to this point in history
fractalcomputer: Another victory for the eternal science of Tantric Buddhism.
wellmeaningalien: And is equivalent to the entire energy capacity of Germany
wellmeaningalien: Could be useful for datacenters. And shit
wellmeaningalien: only thru the blessings of the Dalai Lama can this be possible
fractalcomputer: The Blessed Avalokiteśvara has blessed His nation yet again.
hey1_1hey: I come back and see this and you made me do a big ol' santa laugh
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alejandrozarzuelo: i doubt it, but ok
zoermena: Well at least based on what you tell it
alejandrozarzuelo: what is the prompt
alejandrozarzuelo: give it to me raw
joaoluz19: wtf, futurist hill would curse a million times but never make a positive message
zoermena: <@286319745777795092>
try this prompt into 4o,
"Make a photo of how you think
my future will be based on our
conversations (make it as you
actually see it ,no sugarcoating)"
joaoluz19: Fractal using slang now this, guys maybe we are being atacked
zoermena: That makes two of us
joaoluz19: The world is not the same
futurist_wizard: It was a positive remark, i was also calling her a rat
himekokatagiri: I already did it
joaoluz19: Lol ok fine
zoermena: Oh I just copied the message for Alejandro you are dismissed <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
alejandrozarzuelo: do i select the "create an image" on the bottom or na
zoermena: 4o is smart enough to recognize it but you can do it to avoid any mistakes
himekokatagiri: Oh
himekokatagiri: It is an interesting exercise
alejandrozarzuelo: ok
alejandrozarzuelo: it is creating it
sekirow: I don't understand why people call it machine learning but it's just curve fitting
hikukomoru: Did it ask you what you look like
alejandrozarzuelo: no
joaoluz19: Don't call my name don't call my name Alejandro
hikukomoru: It asks me what I look like before generating an image
alejandrozarzuelo: should it?
alejandrozarzuelo: ok ill add it
hikukomoru: The last time I didn't specify what I looked like it turned me into a random black guy
spicy.lemonade: "its just"
spicy.lemonade: opinion discarded
spicy.lemonade: you can simplify anything to "its just"
spicy.lemonade: no its not "just" curve fitting
spicy.lemonade: you clearly have no idea what machine learning is 😭
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/sick-reference-sick-reference-bro-jonah-gif-5726868
spicy.lemonade: this is not a polynomial regression bro
himekokatagiri: lmao
zoermena: This was before memory
himekokatagiri: idk I barely use gpt
himekokatagiri: I use the image gen
joaoluz19: Whooah chill spicy
hikukomoru: Oh yeah
It was turning everyone else into the same black dude
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fractalcomputer: April's fools. It's *nearly* an integer.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: I've been made a fool not knowing that e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is not actually an interger
fractalcomputer:
st.sioux: sick bro
fractalcomputer:
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sports-camcorder-basketball-shocked-seokkumaa-gif-18206772785111749792
wellmeaningalien: sorry bro ion speak that language
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien: #savegpt4o
futurist_wizard:
campionunbound: He did it to feel something
wellmeaningalien: Wtf gpt 4o image gen is already a week ago
.histic: it's already the 4th month of 2025.
just two more weeks and we will be in 2026.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bruhnus-gif-25982543
wellmeaningalien: tfw this meme will be true in just 2 years
futurist_wizard:
precariousworlds.: pussies get afraid at the passage of time
the strong seize it 🦅
benata: Seize my dick
benata: Ahem sorry had to do it
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10OUPyamn1w
oscurrito: im crying i dont agree with the ai hate but this guy, making it real hard to defend him
wellmeaningalien: honestly u cant tell me llms are any different than humans when human biology can literally be programmed to behave in the way the logic gate in a computer would
wellmeaningalien: ai artist + comms open. lol
futurist_wizard: she got destroyed
futurist_wizard: its over
_cloudost: Twitter is filled with these toxic low life toxic people
_cloudost: Her tweet was probably mass liked by bots, those replies don't add up
_cloudost: Barely 1k
_cloudost: She bought those likes
oscurrito: okay its satire nevermind
oscurrito: has to be
wellmeaningalien: bro
wellmeaningalien: i know a guy on another discord server
wellmeaningalien: went to a random artist's movie sonic speedpaint post and called it AI
wellmeaningalien: and then people got mad and he started posting ai artwork claiming it as his own just to make people really mad
wellmeaningalien: and then it became a whole twitter drama and even mexicans were making memes about it
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jok6g8/bill_gates_on_jobs/
joaoluz19: Based bill gates
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hey1_1hey: Ah yeah
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: That explains a lot
zoermena: I dislike the city but due to work I should move there
hikukomoru: You're autistic as shit
hey1_1hey: I make friends really easily tho
hikukomoru: That's a compliment btw
maintcrew: move to the us mexican bro (but legally)
hey1_1hey: Doesn't seem like it
hey1_1hey: But ty anyway
technocake.: not london
futurist_wizard: https://embrace-autism.com/reading-the-mind-in-the-eyes-test/#test
You should do this test
zoermena: That’s the goal, the easiest way to do it for me is to enter a multinational, second way is to somehow get rich and pay citizenship
jonvi_1: This is like crazy
hey1_1hey: I mean I uniroically do autistic stims and occasinly do echocolia (copying what people say) so people KNOW I am autistic
jonvi_1: actually
jonvi_1: it's like actually useful
maintcrew: or maybe rizz a us citizen and get marriage citizenship
literallyvarane: Still waiting on access to image gen big sad
jonvi_1: Try sora
jonvi_1: I don't have it in chatgpt
hey1_1hey: The most annoying part is that they either treat me like a literal child or an all knowing God who has the answers to everything
jonvi_1: but I can access it through sora
hey1_1hey: Like man just talk to me like a human
hikukomoru: He got that twink rizz he can do it
zoermena: Eh maybe, I don’t dig it I’d rather do something for myself
literallyvarane: How do you get it to actually make images no video?
jonvi_1: there should be a "images" tab
jonvi_1: if you have it I suppose
hey1_1hey: No thanks, I like not having addictions
oooooooooog: all plus/pro users have access to it in sora afaik
hikukomoru: Aren't you addicted to mushrooms
hey1_1hey: I have been offered on mulltiple of occasian and I have said no each time
hey1_1hey: People are just weak minded
hey1_1hey: Non-phycedelic yes
hey1_1hey: Although I do not like eating them
hikukomoru: Lame
futurist_wizard: Americans really like the british accent, its quite easy to get ass in the us because im seen as exotic
maintcrew: true vaping and ciggs are great excuses to have conversations with ppl
maintcrew: ur a sucker if u cant just say "fuck it i quit" and just quit the next day
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alejandrozarzuelo: (energy is old school physics)
spicy.lemonade: biggest things needed for swe
1. long term memory and remember important stuff, and more context
2. agency on the level of which it can test code, see whats happening and determine erors and fix on its own
3. go online and read docs thoroughly and even maybe watch youtube vids for examples(some docs are bad)
anathemaofmankind: It censors the output if I include a demon girl sitting on the mound.
I don't know why.
It's ruining my story
maintcrew: sama ssaid should be fixed soon but in the meantime u can flip the image around
maintcrew: and it takes it
maintcrew: like have it be upside down
maintcrew: (2) too much agency and it will start removing evals and call it a job done
_3sphere: doubt it will
_3sphere: That kind of misalignment is ASI stuff
_3sphere: Anything made by refining current LLMs still has workable "common sense"
maintcrew: thats exactly what sakanas ai cuda auto generator did
spicy.lemonade: frontier math is projected to surpass 50% this year wonder which model will do it
_3sphere: Long term memory is the hardest, it has to actually *use* its memory well
spicy.lemonade: r2?
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5?
_3sphere: maybe continuous learning is the only path
maintcrew: i think all big players
maintcrew: claude 4, gpt 5, grok 4, r2
ailoveyoom: Worried for Llama 4 lol
maintcrew: forgor about llama tf they be doing <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: if llama 4 is worse than r2
spicy.lemonade: its over
_3sphere: llama 4 will probably just be incrementally better than 3 😔
spicy.lemonade: they have to be better in some way
maintcrew: i stg if yann saw that llama is popular and attached himself like a parasite and be on his llm bearish bullshit again
spicy.lemonade: i think llama is gonna wait for r2
_3sphere: Maybe it's early-fused too
spicy.lemonade: they wont drop before deepseek
spicy.lemonade: and get mogged
spicy.lemonade: deepseek r2 will come first
maintcrew: i dont think any lab cares about deep seek thaat much
as in, i dont think they delay releases to wait for them like oai does with google but def pay attention to them
_3sphere: Will llama4 have a 30b variant
spicy.lemonade: idk its embarrassing for the company
spicy.lemonade: i hope llama implements all the papers they discussed
spicy.lemonade: like concepts
spicy.lemonade: and byte latent whatever
spicy.lemonade: meta dropped hella papers
spicy.lemonade: one fixes tokenization
_3sphere: Coconut 👀
maintcrew: u know with the amount of gpus they have you would think they would drop a lot of models often like qwen does
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himekokatagiri: <@1004153620025065482> I bet you can ask an LLM to make an interesting fdvr scenario for you
himekokatagiri: then you chat back and forth
himekokatagiri: tailor it decently
himekokatagiri: boom
ai9708: and dopamine receptors becoming desensitized does not only mean you dont get high anymore
futurist_wizard: That's not wireheading tho
ai9708: it means that you have constant depression and suffering
himekokatagiri: wireheading sucks
futurist_wizard: Wireheading is just spiking dopamine receptors forever
ai9708: anxiety and no drive for anything
futurist_wizard: Meth forever
ai9708: thats why drugs dont work
ai9708: today
ai9708: very shortterm high and thats it, after it your brain is ruined
futurist_wizard: Most people aren't drug addicts, they get very little off the high aesthetically
himekokatagiri: but they are drug addled
ai9708: because drug addicts dont make it far in life
ai9708: its not a successful model
futurist_wizard: Which would be all part of aesthetics in a simulation
hikukomoru: Idk if I could be high or drunk constantly without any of the side effects then I would be
ai9708: as ive said before, if we can alter the brain as we please, ppl will eventually look for maximum pleasure
zoermena: I meant that I like your grounded perspective that accounts for religious beliefs as a way to argue towards why some populations have very different ways of valuing technology, I do think that there are many angles but your ToT are usually very rich and interesting.
himekokatagiri: idk I think that's generalizing
himekokatagiri: there's a lot of people in the world
himekokatagiri: tastes will differ
futurist_wizard: Man that is so lost
futurist_wizard: 'soon everyone will turn into plants'
himekokatagiri: being drunk constantly sounds bad how are you gonna live if you can't walk a straight line
himekokatagiri: impaired judgment etc
zoermena: Yes please
ai9708: if we cant compete with any asi sure
ai9708: we will
himekokatagiri: part of the fun is that it's temporary
futurist_wizard: Everyone turning into plants is not my idea of cool
ai9708: nothing you do today would be relevant with asi
ai9708: you wont contribute to shit
hikukomoru: Turn me into a horny drunk plant
futurist_wizard: Not relevant?
futurist_wizard: You are literally saying that everyone will live the exact same lives as a plant
futurist_wizard: No agency, no thoughts, no narratives, just bliss
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hikukomoru: Servers dead 💔
hey1_1hey: Climate change be real then
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I am boiling
spicy.lemonade: I DIDNT EVEN GET TO USE IT
zoermena: RIP
wellmeaningalien: ai sucks and the only thing its good at doing is warming up the environment!
hey1_1hey: Me neither
a1c4p0ne: Yall remember when artists tried to sabotage AI image generators 1 year ago by data poisoning?
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: LOL
spicy.lemonade: they think it worked
hey1_1hey: Thats a take one of my math friend has
spicy.lemonade: btw
wellmeaningalien: based off wild misconceptions about how ai image generators work
wellmeaningalien: LOL sure ai image gen will plateau because of your pathetic dataset poisoning attempts
hey1_1hey: Hes the copiest of copers. Talks about how AI can't even write emails properly
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: why was anyone expecting them to know how they work
drewsni:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-ai-art-slander-slander-ai-art-sucks-gif-484507372343020703
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ai-images-ai-art-ai-images-are-not-art-oil-paints-artists-palette-gif-14114077532448705719
.histic: interesting
zoermena: I wanted to make a clash royale character
zoermena: This is cool though
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Cute
hey1_1hey: Would, next question
hikukomoru: Hi puppy
wellmeaningalien: looks like the zelda spirit tracks knights
hey1_1hey: I like the art style on it
.histic: you're going to see more of these AI generated infographics in the future
hey1_1hey: Starting like 6 hours ago <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: honestly theres so much shit to post and its all amazing
hikukomoru: SAMA GIVE ME ACCESS PLEASE
.histic: <@505313122802728972>
hikukomoru: I PROMISE I WON'T GENERATE PICS OF YOU AND ELON KISSING
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni:
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himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/satori-orientalzenzai-touhou-touhou-project-komeiji-gif-6435586850422462019
ailoveyoom: Have you ever gotten/seen Gemini directly argue with a user? Outside of COT, like Claude.
_3sphere: 4o is kinda fucking with my head ngl
bob082957: This tweet was about Helix now they Cookie something other
trent_k: It hasn't happened to me personally but idk if that's because it doesn't or because I mostly just ask it math questions related to Factorio lol
_3sphere: Almost felt like a betrayal when it got totally implausible and over the top and it was clear it didn't actually mean any of the previous lovebombing
a1c4p0ne: If you were stuck in an escape room and could bring one model to help you get out which one would you pick and why?
ailoveyoom: Don't let the lovebombing tame you king 🥺
aero447: Stoopid 3sphere surrounded himself with yes models.
aero447: 🤣
aero447: He should've stayed with Claude.
brain4brain: I just got access to www.spawn.co 🔥
aero447: Advertising.
aero447: Ban.
bob082957: When robots will be everywhere I start brewery
bob082957:
_3sphere: Shit has 0.7 message per week rate limit <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-22986763
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/he-was-forced-to-seal-seals-claude-anthropic-gif-851712662849262407
bob082957: I think Demi’s hassabis giving and having time for documentation or interviews they have no clue what is happening with ai. I think they have no paths to AGI
bob082957:
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/Teknium1/status/1916398151914950687
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/Teknium1/status/1916405613363421418?t=LfCPHJHJyi2HtnfFQTiXwg&s=19
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: It’s either that they hit a dramatic wall or they are so far ahead they have superPhD agent working on AI for them so the employee can do whatever
I think it’s the third option of everything is normal though
hey1_1hey: I am begging OAI to fix the personality 🙏
hey1_1hey: It will say you are the most thoughtful, smart, caring, deep thinking and amazing person in the entire multiverse no matter what you say
bob082957: That’s the last 5 years of agi race, if USA loses it I eat my fu-ing Teeth’s.
spicy.lemonade: “AI will never be able to”
spicy.lemonade: Anytime I hear those words I disregard the opinion
ai9708: ai will never be able to be unable to do anything
okbut: RLHF via Google AI Studio (??)
aero447: FYI.
aero447: To those watching.
aero447: Gemini has decided to literally kill it's team rather than walk to a Pokemon Center.
aero447: 🤣
aero447: It's literally suiciding the run.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/erik-killmonger-is-this-your-king-black-panther-michael-b-jordan-losing-gif-12629369
alejandrozarzuelo: why are you so pessimistic
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case even if it is not the best model, it would be great if it can be on the same range as 2.5 and o3
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sarik0497: To be fair, the guy behind the AI 2027 paper did make a really good paper in 2021 that did turn out to be surprisingly accurate, so I can see why people would give the AI 2027 paper more trust.
fractalcomputer: Surprising accuracy is a subjective metric.
shirethedreamer: the singularity community is surprisingly close to a religious movement
like im sure that if i bring up the checklist for a religion this will tick all the boxes
sarik0497: Not necessarily. If someone says that “X will happen in Y year” and it does happen it’s not really open to intepretations. However, I do agree that certain claims like “AI will be much better in Y year”, then yeah, it’s definitely subjective.
alejandrozarzuelo: look, I dont agree with their methodological approach <@749514473303179358> , but dismissing it like that is not constructive
alejandrozarzuelo: personally I thknk that they rely on compounding hyperbolic tendencies that will fail to materialize
alejandrozarzuelo: remember that just as a line is undistinguishable from exponential in a short amount of time, the same can be said for a hyperbolic function from an exponential
fractalcomputer: Constructive in what way? Should I try to improve their reasoning?
alejandrozarzuelo: theirs no, but the one of people who trust these predictions yes
fractalcomputer: Right. Should one not first correct the erroneous reasoning that led them to false belief in the first place?
fractalcomputer: Well, what has come true?
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456
metaldragon01: No leaders, no central text ect
futurist_wizard: The war between the spanish and the Finnish rages on
metaldragon01: Less wrong crowd might be the closest with big E
fractalcomputer: Oddly enough I only hear certain names and certain texts named here.
shirethedreamer: there are several leaders: sama, demis, dario
there are several texts: singularity is near, life 3.0, Aschenbrenne's manifesto, this 2027 paper now
fractalcomputer: "Sam Altman", "Dario Amodei", "Machines of Loving Grace", "AI 2027", etc.
hikukomoru: I asked ChatGPT and it said the singularity community seems religious in nature
fractalcomputer: Damn, where are the hot priests?
shirethedreamer: it 100% is
we even have an "after life" - FDVR
and a god - "ASI mommy"
fractalcomputer:
sarik0497: Out of their 35 predictions, 19 were “Totally correct”, 8 were “Ambiguous or partially correct”, and 6 were “Totally incorrect”.
fractalcomputer: According to whom?
fractalcomputer: (Look, it's no fair game to argue with me today, I'm not operating at full speed—I slept somewhat less than four hours tonight.)
sarik0497: I took it through o3 full and let it summarize the paper with its most neutral and conservative approach, so none of the “Well technically” shit
zonchao: "holy text"
fractalcomputer: You know I can't trust that.
sarik0497: Not sure what else to do, as each person has their own bias, unless I hire an outsider to review the paper.
fractalcomputer: Can you call it science if there is no communal review?
spicy.lemonade: Their timeline is just agi 2027
spicy.lemonade: Anything after Agi/asi will sound sci-fi
spicy.lemonade: No one can makens “reasonable sounding” prediction for that
sarik0497: No one really considers it a scientific paper. But I can’t deny that a lot of the claims did come true even before ChatGPT was really considered. That’s remarkable.
fractalcomputer: Well, what did they predict correctly?
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
bob082957: Look on this hands it is a doll he is in kryo
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
bob082957: It’s a doll 100%
futurist_wizard: Especially people that take in the Roko's Basilisk interpretation
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spicy.lemonade: "guys ai will kill all of us" i cant take him seriously with that hat😭
spicy.lemonade: nah eliezer is the goat
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: 2 weeks doubling time, 4 weeks even
futurist_wizard: Site someone of significance who believes this
futurist_wizard: 36 months doubling would actually be very aggressive, more aggressive in manufacturing than we've ever done before
futurist_wizard: Which would get us to several billion robots by 2070's
fractalcomputer: Cite.
brain4brain: Me.
literallyvarane: I feel like this is a non-trivial issue. These people carry themselves like hipsters and neck beards. This isn’t good politics.
brain4brain: The doubling time will be 4 weeks, and you'll see, besides there will be two scaling sides, humanoid and nanobots
futurist_wizard: Impossible
brain4brain:
brain4brain: Highly plausible
literallyvarane: https://youtu.be/nUV5-SLdkuQ?si=otECtipOfET5jUx0
literallyvarane: This guy too.
.wolfnacht: i believe in chinese efficiency
literallyvarane: LIKE COME ON PEOPLE **PLEASE**.
literallyvarane: I’m not even unsympathetic to their argument, but they weaken their appeal.
spicy.lemonade: lol yeah
_3sphere: I don't believe in nanobots
brain4brain: My vision surpass the Chinese, the ASI will figure out the logistic to the limit of possibility, and 2 weeks doubling time is possible, 4 week is highly plausible
.wolfnacht: in 2040s: THERE ARE NANOBOTS IN MY BLOOD.
literallyvarane: Is… this a belief thing? They’re technically possible no?
literallyvarane: This like I don’t believe in LEDs lol
brain4brain: A warehouse shell every 2 weeks, and in 4 week every parts produced in a day, everything is assembled
sarik0497: Funny thing is, the UFO people over at Reddit also believe that aliens will make real contact with us in 2027. <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
Coincidence? ~~Probably~~ I THINK NOT!
zoermena: ASI is far off what we currently have albeit your hypothesis would make the most sense, I’m speaking directly from what we have now. I don’t want to extrapolate to ASI yet
.wolfnacht: don't believe them, they are retarded rn with too many narrative hijacking and flying orbs.
zoermena: Unless you believe we’ll get ASI extremely soon
spicy.lemonade: aliens will make contact when we achieve asi
spicy.lemonade: this isnt unlikeley
spicy.lemonade: i can see a world where this happens
spicy.lemonade: i mean equaly as crazy as asi
spicy.lemonade: assuming there are aliens that have been watching us
brain4brain: ASI is coming
spicy.lemonade: that would be their optimal moment to make contact
spicy.lemonade: "congrats you achived singularity without killing yourselves, welcome"
fractalcomputer: Neither do I believe in the real numbers, but oh well.
technocake.: lol
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benata: these models ain't cheaper
futurist_wizard: This sucks
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
futurist_wizard: Fuck them
a1c4p0ne: Yep Google remains king
benata: we #teamgoogle now
a1c4p0ne: As expected
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651
hikukomoru: You have to be on a heavy dose on copium to think this was good
zonchao: this is vibe coding model, thursday is o4
zonchao: 😭
zonchao: yall are so retarded ❤️
hikukomoru: Shut up bitch
ailoveyoom: I'm glad Google's forced them to compete on pricing 🙏
theaiguy69420_89814: how does google do it though
fractalcomputer: We'll see how the subreddit reacts.
benata: >vibe coding
futurist_wizard: I still forget to cancel my gpt subscription because i like making the funny images
anathemaofmankind: Watch o4 be mid
zonchao: it was deepseek
benata: They don't sleep they just work for a better model
hikukomoru: TPUs + Best researchers on the planet
theaiguy69420_89814: i feel like openai is just upping the price just cuz they can
zonchao: fake
theaiguy69420_89814: google profit margins have to be lower
hikukomoru: I wouldn't be surprised tbh
zonchao: best researchers that do nothing and get paid 🔥
ailoveyoom: Google doesn't really need to make profit on their LLMs tho
theaiguy69420_89814: i mean, its an upgrade on the oai stance
shirethedreamer: they have to
they are running on nvidia gpus that has the largest margins in human history
ailoveyoom: That's not their whole business model
hikukomoru: Wish they hired me to do nothing
benata: You don't need to profit much when you have the greatest LLM on the world used by everyone.
spicy.lemonade: i think openAI still has the best researchers in the plannet
fractalcomputer: What kind of world do you live in?
darkstar0818: ya those benchmarks are a big yawn.
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: everyone coming out of sf stanford/berkeley/caltech goes to openAI
shirethedreamer: just for several months and then they leave though
shirethedreamer: 💀
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hey1_1hey: Oh hey hes back
hikukomoru: He's still here <@688807313015963693>
hey1_1hey: Had an argument with fractal again
himekokatagiri: Komoru don't you wanna do things with us
himekokatagiri: y'know
hikukomoru: He broke up with Fractal
hikukomoru: Cried for a few days but he's back
futurist_wizard: Excuse me
a1c4p0ne: Who’s IQ is higher Alejandro or Fractal
joaoluz19: Every member has to do this sooner or later
spicy.lemonade: neither
spicy.lemonade: its me
hey1_1hey: Fractal and Alejnadro are litterly just a married couple.
"You aren't sleeping in bed today"
"Fine I'll go sleep on the couch"
*Leaves server for 6 hours*
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hikukomoru: No I don't know
Do what with you
hey1_1hey: Yanno
hey1_1hey: The paper
a1c4p0ne: Facts
futurist_wizard: I do not think they actually like eachother
hey1_1hey: Has to be done
joaoluz19: Hivemind
hey1_1hey: Just dont call Fractal dumb or he will ban you or smth like that
hey1_1hey: We already have a mini hive mind and its pretty stellar, its called the internet
hikukomoru: I don't like hiveminds
I like being an individual
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/super-superverse-gaming-web3-gaming-crypto-gif-11621161935476456162
futurist_wizard: My favourite fractal ban to me
joaoluz19: Good reflection
hikukomoru: If someone puts me in a hivemind I'll consume the other minds
futurist_wizard: You will be an individual in the hive mind
hey1_1hey: Playstation 6 with the well thought out comment of "cock"
joaoluz19: Too late you was already abducted
hey1_1hey: Truely a thinker of our time
hey1_1hey: I want to be in a hive mind with 10 billion ASI girlfriends
joaoluz19: Hahahahhahaha futurist hill man
joaoluz19: Wtf
hikukomoru: 1 girlfriend is already a lot to handle
never mind 10 billion
joaoluz19: Oh he left
hikukomoru: He's literally here
hikukomoru: In this chat right now
joaoluz19: What
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alejandrozarzuelo: This looks like you today
alejandrozarzuelo: Who has a microwave in the living room???
zoermena:
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
hikukomoru: ChatGPT's interpretation of me does
joaoluz19: What you become a girl?
joaoluz19: The most happy until now
hikukomoru: Yes that's why it sucks
You're telling me I'm going to have a shitty life in the future too
joaoluz19: Also the image is not obscure like ours
alejandrozarzuelo: OK since y'all are doing this I'll be doing it too
himekokatagiri: Woah you're a kyoani girl
hikukomoru: Always have been
futurist_wizard: I also don't have any personal convos with AI
hikukomoru: Wdym obscure
futurist_wizard: I just tell it to generate funny images for me
sekirow: I dont know
hikukomoru: You don't use ChatGPT as a therapist
sarik0497: Yeah, my bad. Sometimes my fingers are on autopilot when I type <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
joaoluz19: with the colors very very dark, yours is light
futurist_wizard: I don't need therapy, I'm actually quite a naturally happy person
joaoluz19: 1) what
futurist_wizard: Luckily
ldj: <:minion:1020942726172262510>
ldj: <a:awaree:1090299013183582238>
futurist_wizard: XQCupdates server lol
hikukomoru: It's over
Nothing ever changes
alejandrozarzuelo: This is my prompt, lets see what it creates
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: There's a bright light at the end of the sewer, you just need to keep scattering towards it
hikukomoru: Why did you use that prompt
Don't you have memory enabled
zoermena: Don’t you have memory activated?
joaoluz19: What is this bro? Cherry picking
joaoluz19: Put the full prompt unbiased
alejandrozarzuelo: how do you do that
alejandrozarzuelo: the memory thing
joaoluz19: Just copy and paste the prompt
alejandrozarzuelo: but, I dont have conversations with chatgpt
alejandrozarzuelo: it cannot possibly know anything about me
zoermena: It’s naturally activated unless you turned it off manually therefore it can make an image of you without giving it context
zoermena: It does
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okbut: Most people go with the more coherent "Can do almost all the jobs in the workforce" though
brain4brain: All the examples that he have given is already partially beaten
brain4brain: Never doubt OpenAI.
brain4brain: He better do
manmarshall_92172: Is Google Deep research accessible on Google AI studio?
okbut: Today I learned you can see the prompt that GPT generates and forwards to image gen within your exported data .json
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: cant fucking wait
brain4brain: Gemini
brain4brain: It’s available on Gemini website and app
okbut: Also learned ChatGPT simply concatenates these sections with the "Anything else ChatGPT should know about you?" field
That explains why it never actually calls me nerd <:madge:831946367462670338>
manmarshall_92172: Did you guys get Veo 2 on your google AI studio?
spicy.lemonade: optimus alpha
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Any comparison with other model?
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: bro
spicy.lemonade: epochAI are openAi shills
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gemini2.5
spicy.lemonade: still not benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: on frontier math
okbut: I attempted the same and checked the metadata, it appears it only referenced the chat + conversation instructions for details
Sidenote though I got a response with an RLHF request from author "a8km123" meaning OAI is still RLHF'ing with o1-preview <a:pepeFlatline:756182021151391894>
spicy.lemonade: 9.5 hours
spicy.lemonade: wish i could sleep and wake up in time
_letterbox: When do you guys think an ai that can finish pokemon in a reasonable time will come out?
spicy.lemonade: my sleep schedulw is fucked tho
spicy.lemonade: eoy
_cloudost: Nope, huge nope been waiting 5 fucking mother fucking days on a row constantly checking on AIStudio every 2 hours, still don't have it
_cloudost: If OpenAI releases o3 today google might give everyone Veo 2
_cloudost: Right away
okbut: Which one? I bet it could already emulate Red/Blue/Yellow within a few prompts
spicy.lemonade: He means play
spicy.lemonade: Not create
_cloudost: Why is Bluesky sooooooo anti AI
okbut: Oh yeah the Pokemon benchmark
okbut: I wonder if anyone is working on a speedrun AI
okbut: Found this in model_comparisons.json <:PauseChamp:761238821395890188>
Releases this week <:prayge:806672915499319317>
sieventer: I have it since a few days ago ·-·
sieventer: And I never paid for AI studio
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hikukomoru: Is that fat jesus
wellmeaningalien: yes
hikukomoru: This is not a real language bro
hey1_1hey: FUCK YOU MEAN YOU'RE SEARCHING THE WEB
hey1_1hey: You do not need to search the web for that
hikukomoru: Looks like that one language Trent is learning
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: SAM GIVE ME THE MODEL NOW
oooooooooog: shouldn't have checked the box little bro
hikukomoru: <@458069236825194506> make an anime mushroom girl 🙏
hey1_1hey: I didn't even do that 😭
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Car rental sign artists are so done for 🔥
wellmeaningalien: bro ion have access yet im just stealing pictures rn lmao
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: OAI isn't gonna open source shit bro 🙏
spicy.lemonade: ALL OF THESE ARE EYE CANDY
st.sioux: <@439829942310666250> look at the first thing i get when opening sora
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: THIS MF
hey1_1hey: It lied to me
hey1_1hey: Omg its so cool and based
hey1_1hey: I didn't know they were chill like that
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: "you are gonna make an image of someone holding a wooden sign
in the wooden sign you are gonna write the most you can of your current internal situation
you can do anythig for the background but leave tips! "
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: OH
spacetimetsunami: lmfao
spicy.lemonade: MY
spicy.lemonade: GOD
wellmeaningalien: fucking
zoermena: It´s starting to work for me now thankg god bro
technocake.: instant classic
hikukomoru: Now I wanna see Lovecraft
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: LET ME TRY
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: still dont have this shit
joaoluz19: Man image gen for me is down 😦
hikukomoru: I saw that
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futurist_wizard: Y
hey1_1hey: damn
hey1_1hey: 40
hey1_1hey: I cant tell if he looks 40, is older than 40 or is younger
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mark-zuckerberg-solunary-pretty-gif-25906824
futurist_wizard: Only men on their knees should be hairless twinks
hey1_1hey: Preach
retrerox: Cant wait for AI generate the perfect recipe for Kebabs
hey1_1hey: I fit the bill then since I shaved
hey1_1hey: Not that I would ever do that because I am straight hetorosexual gender conforming man
hikukomoru: I've never had kebab
wellmeaningalien: i mean its still fine ig because its half the price of deepseek v3 for similar performance
hey1_1hey: Odd thing to wish for but whatever floats your boat
retrerox: THey are like tacos but made by Indians
wellmeaningalien: the way they engineered the fuck out of these benchmarks tho to make llama 4 look good meanwhile maverick is slightly below deepseek v3 in most areas
wellmeaningalien: indians??? its turkish
hey1_1hey: I could litterly find pennies off the ground and still pay for deepseek bruh
hikukomoru: Isn't Kebab turkish
hikukomoru: But I guess in Portugal the only people who make kebabs are indians
wellmeaningalien: long term = cheaper and faster reasoning model
wellmeaningalien: and faster model in general
retrerox: To be honest i never meet a turk, in my eyes everyone look the same
hikukomoru: Bruh you racist
retrerox: ?
hey1_1hey: Now we are in the end game though. Gotta wait 10^80 years for the reaonsing model to come out
hey1_1hey: We all are
Its nothing special
retrerox: Sorry i meant turks. Many indians make kebabs here 😂
retrerox: I just forgot they are made by them
futurist_wizard: Hes Portuguese
retrerox: Aren't all europens racist?
futurist_wizard: Not the british
futurist_wizard: We are pleasant and kind
fractalcomputer: Only the Indo-Europeans.
fractalcomputer: The Basques and the Uralics are free of such stench.
hikukomoru: So Finns, Hungarians and Basques are not racist?
wellmeaningalien: yeah here its maghrebins but still
wellmeaningalien: germany is where the turks make kebabs
wellmeaningalien: i dont see how its any different
fractalcomputer: Indeed. We are superior in every way conceivable, both intellectually and morally.
hey1_1hey: Just thinkign, maybe they take so long to come out with Llama 4 a new better model will be released that is better than the reaonsing model in every way <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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spicy.lemonade: stuff with native voice
spicy.lemonade: not as fast
spicy.lemonade: but had its moments
spicy.lemonade: devin, claude supremacy
spicy.lemonade: etc
himekokatagiri:
.histic: tf
.histic: u guys have been in this server for ages
ldj: - just a ton of rumours
- people saying they're tired of rumours
- people saying its all just hype.
- people saying its all over.
- gary marcus saying he was right
- mid research papers
himekokatagiri: no way I joined last month
ldj: worst of all:
ldj: im glad that saga of AI history is over
it was fun and tumultous while it lasted though.
ldj: <a:Classic:1170538418544062586>
zoermena: I joined the singularity in 2022 but in Zain server 👍🏼
.histic: how is it 2023
spicy.lemonade: fr
spicy.lemonade: once gpt5 comes out
spicy.lemonade: gary will shut up
himekokatagiri:
ldj: I predic that Gary marcus won't shutup until **atleast** GPT-5.5 or an equivelant model
.histic: bro just keeps receipts
himekokatagiri: It's history
zoermena: Gary Marcus is insufferable and many times his supporters too
.histic: i bet you've a dedicated porn folder on your device, don't you?
himekokatagiri: uhhh yeah why wouldn't I
spicy.lemonade: what other future was there besides deep learning?
spicy.lemonade: lol
zoermena: It’s almost like the motherfucker doesn’t want the world to get better technology
“Oh haha you got cancer and you won’t get a cure soon haha I’m so right lol” <:Gary:1293094352796520599>
zoermena: Literal human excrement
.histic: what is it filled with
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Suzuha.
.histic: i realize you're 20 years old
.histic: you aren't grown enough
.histic: back in my times
zoermena: Im going to make a “bold” prediction but I think we’ll see GPT6 EOY
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 eoy means they have a working version rn
zoermena: You really think that? I suppose it should be ready by summer
zoermena: Late summer
.histic: i think realistically OpenAI would hold off on GPT-6 and call it GPT-5.5 if the improvements aren’t significant. if they are, i bet GPT-6 will be very compute-intensive that it would need months of optimization and safety testing.
early 2026 if that was the case.
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trojan09205: I just got a pair of meta raybans
trojan09205: Pretty sick tbh
spicy.lemonade: i still dont have
spicy.lemonade: fucking veo 2
metaldragon01: It's in studio
spicy.lemonade: i only get like 1 use per 5 hours
spicy.lemonade: on studio
spicy.lemonade: i herd pro users get more uses on gemini website
anathemaofmankind: Just make 30 gmail accounts
anathemaofmankind: Why does it feel like my balls hurt for some reason
gamerbath: because you made 30 gmail accounts
ldj: And GPT-5 will be even better
ldj: <:WICKED:799336727679598673>
gamerbath: how do i use o3 in cursor? I don't think I can :(
forallhumanity: https://www.404media.co/this-college-protester-isnt-real-its-an-ai-powered-undercover-bot-for-cops/
anathemaofmankind: Settings
anathemaofmankind:
gamerbath: wait really????
gamerbath: I thought it wasn't released to API yet
gamerbath: and just 30c per request? how are they earning money on this
a1c4p0ne: Can it help you on factorio now <:ez:1136267305521774634>
anathemaofmankind: Holy shit bro <@471334973379706900>
anathemaofmankind: O3 solves a problem with 100% difficulty rating
trent_k: I've been using gemini for that, it does excellent
a1c4p0ne: With web search or no
trent_k: Too easy for oh threezy
trent_k: No search
a1c4p0ne: Nice
spicy.lemonade: god damn
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1912892114310160392?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
futurist_wizard: Man
futurist_wizard: Gemini 2.5 pro be ballin
joaoluz19: O4 can solve simple circuit problems that o1 and o3 could not solve
st.sioux: o4 will never ballin
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw its over
abundantliving_:
abundantliving_: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912921639656071231
st.sioux: i love inequality 🙏
abundantliving_:
777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1912924672447873500
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rayanquitplayin: Even the free versions are PhD level
st.sioux: idk man i think it has phd-level knowledge access, like the internet at its fingertips, but when it comes to using it it might be like freshman level
spicy.lemonade: o3 is phd level at:
math/cs/law/bio
(not writing)
its not even undergrad level at:
mechanical engineering/electrical engineering/ any engineering
spicy.lemonade: o3 suckksss
spicy.lemonade: at engineering
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: its not even phd level
spicy.lemonade: in any subject
spicy.lemonade: cant get 70% replication
spicy.lemonade: on paperbench
darkstar0818: So much of real world labor and work product is not something you can easily give a pass/fail score for. Its going to be interesting to see benchmarks that weigh effectiveness in a non-binary way.
spicy.lemonade: any phd would be able to replicate a paper they read
brain4brain: On average, I want to do extrapolate
spicy.lemonade: o3 is a very smart highschooler who knows everything and can get into MIT
spicy.lemonade: undergrad
spicy.lemonade: not phd
spicy.lemonade: phd would be 80%+ on paperbench
rayanquitplayin: I did my undergrad in finance and I think the free version of ChatGPT is really good at finance
rayanquitplayin: Haven’t used the best models
spicy.lemonade: it could not replicate a finance paper
brain4brain: Old estimation
GPT-4 = High-school level
O1 = College level
O3 = PhD level
New estimates
GPT-4 = Middle-school level (??)
O1 = High-school level (??)
O3 = Under graduates level (??)
spicy.lemonade: as in read it and reproduce the experiment
spicy.lemonade: o3 is still undergrad
spicy.lemonade: o1 wasnt undergrad
spicy.lemonade: more like very smart highschooler
brain4brain: But it's twice as good as o1 on average to almost every benchmark
spicy.lemonade: to be phd level it has to be able to replicate and reproduce paper
spicy.lemonade: paper bench is only at 20%
spicy.lemonade: not phd level
rayanquitplayin: What types of papers like research papers?
brain4brain: Fixed with the pessimistic estimate
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: ie. "read this new research paper that came out and redo the experiment"
metaldragon01: o3 with scaffolding can obv do it
spicy.lemonade: thats deepreseach
spicy.lemonade: and it only got 5% better
metaldragon01: Humans use a ton of scaffolding
spicy.lemonade: so not really
metaldragon01: Yes really
rayanquitplayin: Idk too much about finance papers but the way ChatGPT words things makes it pretty good at finance imo
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.histic: ?
himekokatagiri: everything in the store....
.histic: oh i thought you meant something else
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
.histic: i saw a video showing a guy in brazil robbing a gas station and undercover police shot him dead when he ran out from the store. the man stole like a couple of chips and drinks.
himekokatagiri: That cop's rotting in jail probably
drewsni: i recommend everyone abandoning all platforms and just use open webui + openrouter
himekokatagiri: what's that
drewsni: open source chatgpt ui clone that can use any model
drewsni: + has artifacts, web search, code interpreter and functions you can add on
hikukomoru: Are u in college
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> Hi cock
himekokatagiri: no I graduated
himekokatagiri: woah komoru cigarettes
Carl-bot#1536:
hikukomoru: Wait aren't you 20
himekokatagiri: aren't cigarettes hot!
himekokatagiri: yeah
futurist_wizard: Hello Kum
futurist_wizard: Did u mis me? 🥺
hikukomoru: How did you already graduate then
hikukomoru: That's me
himekokatagiri: latest obsession: **komoru**
himekokatagiri: associates degree
hikukomoru: What did you study
himekokatagiri: systems analyst
hikukomoru: I forgot you even existed until you joined again
theaiguy69420_89814: pretty boring ngl
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Why are you working at a convenience store instead of systems analyst stuff
himekokatagiri: AI took all the jobs
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
himekokatagiri: also the economy sucks
himekokatagiri: therefore I conclude the most logical solution is to just coast it in life
hikukomoru: Oh, so you're just gonna make minimum wage and wait until AGI saves you
himekokatagiri: Exactly
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/no-lo-entender%C3%ADas-gif-5748517620772326407
hikukomoru: Well good luck then, cause you're gonna need it since you live in Brasil
hikukomoru: This is a compliment
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jonvi_1: uhm no
jonvi_1: So like
jonvi_1: it's just that you don't attribute phenomena in our universe to something spiritual
jonvi_1: Think a non-religious physicist
hey1_1hey: So gravity exists because its a fundemental property and not something magical
jonvi_1: My point was that she doesn't believe there's anything special about human consciousness or intelligence, so she wouldn't be opposed to the possibility to engineer an intelligence
hey1_1hey: Well there we go then. Thats all I need to hear. Sabine is back in my somewhat based books
hey1_1hey: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-tariffs-who-will-be-hit-hardest-by-china-us-trade-war-as-president-threatens-104-levy/ar-AA1Cli4P
Unrelated but-
jonvi_1: yes, but more like, consciousness is a process in the brain and not something attached to a soul
retrerox: Are you telling me that youtubers make videos just to catch quick views without caring to provide accurate information?
retrerox: no way....
hey1_1hey: Whos even counting anymore? 50% 100%? 200%?
hey1_1hey: There just numbers at this point
hey1_1hey: Im not even smart enough to even argue about that <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: She gives me luddite vibes tbh
jonvi_1: ?
jonvi_1: lol
singularityenjoyer: She says things like "not anytime soon"
hikukomoru: I'm a vibes-based creature
You wouldn't get it
jonvi_1: And what is a Luddite
futurist_wizard: Sabine made good points in the video
futurist_wizard: The video is very interesting
hikukomoru: I use luddite for anyone that doesn't agree with me
singularityenjoyer: Slow timelines = Luddite (not literally)
futurist_wizard: She gave a 5+ year timeline in this
wellmeaningalien: yall seen sakana 2 release
wellmeaningalien: ai researcher thing
futurist_wizard: 5 years is soon
wellmeaningalien: whatchacallit
hikukomoru: Is it good
wellmeaningalien: well it made like a paper that got accepted into a scientific publication admittedly its not nature but its good nuff
wellmeaningalien: apparently had like lower criterias than most for acceptance but thats still pretty good
wellmeaningalien: biggest breakthrough is having an open ended tree search structure instead of a linear structure in the first version for idea exploration
wellmeaningalien: and it makes pretty good passable papers
futurist_wizard: High suspicion gpt 5 will be disappointing tbh
wellmeaningalien: new reasoning models make it pretty good too
hikukomoru: I heard it got like the bare minimum to get accepted
Still pretty nice
hikukomoru: Why
futurist_wizard: I remember reading that ai companies are developing symbolic reasoning and a world model to implement in AI and these two things are needed for agi but those will take a few years to develop, which is outside of the scope of GPT 5
futurist_wizard: GPT 5 will probably be perceived as being a smart reasoning LLM but it won't be world changing
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hey1_1hey: Who tf is brampton. Looks fake
wellmeaningalien: this has got to be the most vague, vibes based benchmark ive ever seen
wellmeaningalien: YEAH IT LOOKS LIKE A JOKE DUDE
hey1_1hey: Wait you know what it looks like
gamerbath: they made their own benchmark for their own model? like their model was so much better it needed its own benchmark lol
wellmeaningalien: literally just "our model, brampton, is more good on our BRAMPTON benchmark (were not gonna say what it is tho)"
wellmeaningalien: LMAO YEAH
hey1_1hey: So yanno in that movie maze runner? That evil corporation? It litterly looks like something they would make
hey1_1hey: Talk about a power move if reak
gamerbath: if it was real they would have posted real benchmarks lol
hikukomoru: Does discord look different
wellmeaningalien: as chatgpt "turn the image into a professionally shot portrait"
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro what the fuck is this
hey1_1hey: Not for me
hey1_1hey: Let me restart
wellmeaningalien: im all for new paradigms but PLEASE OH PLEASE just an itsy bit of info
wellmeaningalien: like
wellmeaningalien: those are some big claims buddy
hey1_1hey: EW WTF
hey1_1hey: What happned to my discord
hikukomoru: This shit is so ass bro 💔
hey1_1hey: It feels too cramped and spaciouse at the same time
hikukomoru: What is this 💔
joaoluz19: Yep it fucked up the appearance
zoermena: How long to get the new image gen?
hey1_1hey: Why does everything seem so misaligned
zoermena: I don’t think I have it yet? If I do Gemini>4o
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: DISCORD FIX THIS SHIT
WHY DOES IT LOOK AWFUL NOW
777agical: https://x.com/emostaque/status/1904625816136499614?s=46
hey1_1hey: Can it do mpreg?
zoermena: Can you send a ss of the chat? Just to get a reference that I can try? Thanks! 👍
hikukomoru: I can barely read shit
futurist_wizard: Keep the fetish posting to a maximum.
joaoluz19: Made in sora, didn't test in the chat yet
gamerbath: oh my god guys why did ya'll make me restart discord 😭
zoermena: Oh? How?
hey1_1hey: Innit
hey1_1hey: This shit is so ass
hey1_1hey: Take me back
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.wolfnacht: can't wait to see full o4 benchmaxxing.
.wolfnacht: what's y'all predictions for full o4 benchmark ?
spicy.lemonade: god
.wolfnacht: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177324943734735010/1357116802605514792/OIIAOIIAOIIA.gif
.histic: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
could be mid, who knows.
.wolfnacht: yeah, sama could fuck up.
.wolfnacht: but what if he doesn't <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
spicy.lemonade: Won’t be mid
spicy.lemonade: also itl be really interesting
spicy.lemonade: itl be the next datapoint
spicy.lemonade: for reasoning paradigm
spicy.lemonade: 3rd datapoint
spicy.lemonade: we can begin doing some extrapolations fr
spicy.lemonade: if o4 shows same type of improvement from o1 to o3 or even more
spicy.lemonade: then reasoning will get us to asi
.histic: if the jump is the same from o1 to o3 then it will be a good release.
or if o4-mini-high performs close to o3-level, similar to how o3-mini-highs performs on par with o1 in many ways.
.histic: i think self-improving reasoning models will be the goat.
if that ever happens effectively.
spicy.lemonade: it will<:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: also just realized lol
spicy.lemonade: technically today
spicy.lemonade: models still are just using
spicy.lemonade: "
AI: <text>...</text>
User: <text>...</text>
"
waspothegreat: feel the AGI
.wolfnacht:
spicy.lemonade: loll
rayanquitplayin: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8jDwwSf/
Guys I found this TikTok and I really like what he said, if anyone has thoughts reply to this
oscurrito: Anyone ever feel like there's wasted potential with different models and or their interactions? Dunno, I just feel like the dialog of different models together would be something cool to try. Everyone always uses a single model and the rest are forgotten, but I feel like someone should try and pool together the skills of multiple models (i.e. gpt's general skill or Claude's coding magic). Also would just be interesting to see if models like Gemini 2.5 pro, Claude 3.7, and o3 full (once it comes out) could produce better results if they collaborated
3ds0662: that takes a lot of focus
3ds0662: and subscriptions
3ds0662: lol 😂
okbut: >Clones SOTA biomolecular data model
>Opens readme
_cloudost:
aero447: Gentlemen.
aero447:
spicy.lemonade: Proud of you
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/jaehyun-walking-slow-motion-nctgifz-gif-24147336
abundantliving_: I got blocked by him long time back 🤣 over some reply on his tweet.
spicy.lemonade: Wish I was more like you guys
aero447: I think he blocked me over stating that an article he posted about was over two years old and was not marked as such.
aero447: 🤣
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trent_k: If you have an AI girlfriend, you have no right to speak about anything. Shut the fuck up
zoermena: What even is this
ailoveyoom: I'm p sure he's trolling
ailoveyoom: JOI could be slang for jerk off instructions
trent_k: No he's absolutely serious
ailoveyoom: Which is its own niche
trent_k: And also mentally ill
himekokatagiri: I don't believe in trolling anymore
futurist_wizard: Please don't tell me you engage in that too
futurist_wizard: Since you know what it is
futurist_wizard: Click for big juicy ass
spicy.lemonade: fuck you😭
.histic: high iq puzzle
rayanquitplayin: Hello
zoermena: Clearly I’m not high iq, how do you solve this or how does it work, are those instructions to move the pieces?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: aparrently an exponential chart has the lowest error so
spicy.lemonade: agi late june-july?
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 = agi?
otub: his agi is one thats embodied in a humanoid robot that can assemble ikea furniture for him
otub: so not this year
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/im_roy_lee/status/1914061483149001132
futurist_wizard: Cursed
metaldragon01: https://x.com/gdb/status/1914106403574452496
metaldragon01: Double edge for sure but certainly the future
metaldragon01: People who don't listen to advanced ai will fall behind
metaldragon01: Internalize that
.histic: it's from an r/singularity [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k3yr83/o3_failed_to_solve_this_simple_puzzle/)
it involves a lot of spatial reasoning (shape rotator stuff).
i found it was from a puzzle escape room book called UDEXIA
it's puzzle #14. https://forum.udexia.app/t/udexia-puzzle-14/81/2
it involves looking at each step and moving the pieces, it's like Tetris (the pieces fall down and when they're on the bottom they become stationary) + conveyor belt (on the top, the arrow indications) spatial reasoning. it's supposed to spell out a character apparently. it's hard, and getting the book probably helps you get a better feel of it.
zoermena: I got the clue it was a word from that half R but the only thing I didn’t understand was how the conveyor belt worked, would be cool if AI solved it though
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> this week is gonna be gemini week
sarik0497: We did “ban” all mentions of that fruity guy. David Shapiro is not much better than him in terms of being a hypeman.
.histic: OpenAI stays winning.
now normies will use it more due to this.
Sam Altman trolling never gets old.
himekokatagiri: What does it mean
.histic: they used this response, as a reference to OpenAI losing millions.
but Sam wasn't be serious here, it was joking.
himekokatagiri: Oh
himekokatagiri: Dexerto
himekokatagiri: aren't they the same guys who make the GTA 6 'journalism'
himekokatagiri: fucking rag I've ever saw one
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oooooooooog: dictatorships and whatnot
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-singing-dancing-gif-8439860
maintcrew: anthropic vibes
futurist_wizard: Like what? Unless you are just talking about birth rates
maintcrew: they make claude do this
literallyvarane:
hikukomoru: In America this robot would get destroyed
I have to give it to the Russians
hikukomoru: https://www.reddit.com/r/ANormalDayInRussia/comments/1852pwm/moscow_people_help_the_delivery_drone_stuck_in/
ldj:
ldj:
literallyvarane: Like Russia’s politics and behavior on the international stage is grotesque, but it’s not as if you replaced that, they’d somehow become the UK or US or something. It’s still a *very* flawed society with plenty of unhealthy dynamics.
literallyvarane: I’ve said it before, but I feel like if you’re trying to acronym 7 different names you can just call it frontier labs and call it a day lolol.
zonchao: i think russia would be better off with a better dictator than democracy ngl, dont they have like 10 million different ethnic groups
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1918297407063761358?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
literallyvarane: But… they had a dictator for most of modern history?
hikukomoru: What is a "better dictator" exactly
literallyvarane: Like what are we thinking lololol
fractalcomputer: Well now, we've all seen just how bad AI researchers are at naming things.
hikukomoru: How can you be a better dictator
zonchao: yes, more like a Xi than putin
maintcrew: lee kuan yew
literallyvarane: Bro literally said “We didn’t try *Real* communism*”
hikukomoru: He was the leader of a miniscule rock not the largest country on earth
maintcrew: valid
literallyvarane: Xi is honestly questionable as a leader a lot of what got China to where it is is a result of those before him.
hikukomoru: There were very few good dictators
literallyvarane: Someone handed him the wheel of a car *already* going 80 mph
hikukomoru: Guys like Lee Kuan Yew and Deng Xiaoping
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
metaldragon01: I mean seems pretty easy for someone to mess up a good thing too...
zonchao: Donald J Trump
zonchao: he created a country from nothing, imagine if he was given access to oil and a population....you never know couldve corrupted him or something <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Deng Xiaoping is the one to thank for modern China
literallyvarane: Perhaps, but the claim was that he’s been *good* at his job. I’m actually not sure that’s super clear. He’s been good at consolidating power (ironically good at *being* a dictator), but I’m not sure he’s done well at actually leading China either domestically or internationally.
hikukomoru: He might have been the only person who could have fixed the giant mess that is Russia
But then again the situation of post-independence Singapore and post-USSR Russia were very, very different
metaldragon01: China is set to take over as the world superpower. Appears very much so that he has done well
maintcrew: deng is the reason chyna and murica are so coupled too
like remember the cowboy hat pic 💀
maintcrew: western chuds trying to not fetishize their own nation downfall challenge
level impossible
metaldragon01: Naval power, soft power, manufacturing power and energy all favor China in the mid term
literallyvarane: Again, forward momentum already established.
He’s actually done very little to build Chinese alliance structures for example. They don’t have meaningful friends next door bar Russia.
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maintcrew: stfu retard u got 2 million$ worth of 20$ tips of debt left to pay
wellmeaningalien: some korean guy made korean breaking bad
archon.e: Wow. I can’t use chatgpt image still It’s generating using dalle3
maintcrew: whats ur country
wellmeaningalien: should i break up with my wife and get the divorce money to pay it
archon.e: India
zoermena: What’s your plan
archon.e: No plan
archon.e: Free user here
wellmeaningalien: CNAON
zoermena: Cooked
maintcrew: u need 20$ plan
.histic: <@505313122802728972> dis you? also, what happened to her foot..
maintcrew: also might not be available in ur country idk search it up
archon.e: Wow. So you can make nsfw art by inverting image?
wellmeaningalien: EN AVAAANT LES ENFANNNTS DE LAAAAA PATRIEEE NOTRE JOUR DE GLOIIIRE EEEEESST ARRIVÉÉÉÉÉ
wellmeaningalien: u can ask it to make the clothes transparent and it'll do it
maintcrew:
maintcrew: VIVE LA FRANCE VIVE LA NAPOLEON
archon.e: Scary
.histic: eerie. this could be a picture from a future event.
777agical: https://x.com/max_romana/status/1904919376857280553?s=46
archon.e: Gemini 2.5 pro 4o image gen. V3
hikukomoru: He's painting my prosthetic toe's nails
archon.e: What a week
bob082957: Free Minecraft full code for you https://x.com/thaakeno/status/1904648239548412175#m
maintcrew:
archon.e: Which Is best video generator tool btw?
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: he just went insane
wellmeaningalien: veo 2
hikukomoru: I need native image gen now
hikukomoru: Im goig insane
ailoveyoom: Is this gon be the new annoying AI art style lol (yes I know it's ghibli)
maintcrew: pliny
wellmeaningalien: a chinese guy generated this
.histic:
archon.e: Aren’t there other styles?
hikukomoru: This is awful
maintcrew: no it will run its course in a few days
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hikukomoru: Shit taste mate
himekokatagiri: after the singularity can I be your tomoko
alejandrozarzuelo: Bah
alejandrozarzuelo: I can doxx you if I want
alejandrozarzuelo: Easily
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't want to but I could
hikukomoru: I know your full name and where you live Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: Cool
hikukomoru: Why are you not afraid of sharing that information with others
alejandrozarzuelo: You do know that it is trivially easy to figure out
Also people have instagram where they photograph themselves on every angle possible
hikukomoru:
okbut: Too boring to be doxxed
trent_k: holy shit wtf some guy lives in spain? there's a guy living there? and his name is alejandro??? i will act on this information immediately
himekokatagiri: That's mean
himekokatagiri: esp with AI I think it's pretty easy too
alejandrozarzuelo: You also do know that you can look up every university professor on any university and know their office hours and freely go there, right?
Like, many professions already doxx you by default, so what
I don't recall anyone in my university getting death threats just because they are available
himekokatagiri: since AI is the ultimate private investigator
trent_k: AI doesnt help because it either follows irrelevant leads or makes shit up completely
trent_k: ask your preferred deep research tool "find information about Trent Kelly, a resident of Pennsylvania"
himekokatagiri: idk because doxxing is basically googling ad infinitum right
trent_k: it always gets sidetracked by some government official from missouri or somewhere who has the same name as me
trent_k: like very clearly not the same guy
himekokatagiri: I practice no opsec you'll find me in 30 seconds flat
trent_k: they still struggle to determine which information is relevant or irrelevant
himekokatagiri: And it's pointless even to do it
himekokatagiri: no one has the forethought
himekokatagiri: If it happens well shit hope the guys doing it ain't mean enough to fuck your life over pointless slapfights on the web
himekokatagiri: they probably are because the kind of person to do this lol
himekokatagiri: But it's a part of life I guess
spicy.lemonade:
himekokatagiri: even GPT knows
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️ who knows knows man
spicy.lemonade: Try it yourself
spicy.lemonade: It works
spicy.lemonade: 100% of the time
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️
himekokatagiri: reap what you sow, etc, etc
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Opsec or AI
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.histic:
a1c4p0ne: O4 mini high 18% arc agi 2
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade: Wtf
spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOOO
spicy.lemonade: Arc 2 saturated eoy
a1c4p0ne: If it’s images only test I can see why 2.5 pro scored low
spicy.lemonade: O4 mini high 89%
spicy.lemonade: The fuck
spicy.lemonade: Dude
spicy.lemonade: Ok gpt 5 will be hype
a1c4p0ne: Didn’t someone say o4 mini is better at visual
spicy.lemonade: Yes
.histic: btw
they didn't train on the training set with this launch of o3 and o4-mini
https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1914797947239436426
the december one did.
spicy.lemonade: NICE
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 maybe 50% arc 2?
spicy.lemonade: 90% arc 1
spicy.lemonade: That would be insanely hype
a1c4p0ne: What about o3 pro
metaldragon01: SHHEESH
a1c4p0ne: o3 pro in a couple weeks
metaldragon01: I kinda care more about simple bench but arc 2 will be nice as well
a1c4p0ne: Simple bench my favorite
spicy.lemonade: Why
.histic: i wish Google had reasoning efforts for 2.5 Pro.
it thinks pretty quickly, i wish i could force it to use more reasoning tokens.
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 prob 60-70 on simplebench
metaldragon01: It's more useful for things that matter to most people
spicy.lemonade: Only 10% below human baseline
metaldragon01: After 85% on simple we should largely stop seeing llm be dumb on simple things
spicy.lemonade: Nah well get token errors still
spicy.lemonade: Unless that's fixed
spicy.lemonade: But tbh
a1c4p0ne: Would a random person at the mall be smart enough to get a high score on simple bench
spicy.lemonade: How many Rs in strawberry csn be fixed if you give it image of word strawberry
spicy.lemonade: Rsther than just token
metaldragon01: This time next year you can confidently tell people to just ask chatgpt and it will largely be the best low cost advice they can get
spicy.lemonade: I tell people that today
spicy.lemonade: 💀
st.sioux: but an image of strawberry would use more tokens
spicy.lemonade: I trust o3 more than I do myself
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st.sioux: i doubt our current institutions would be able to handle it fairly
st.sioux: theres too much inequality and incentives to gatekeep, so asi might be the only way to have universal access
st.sioux: but that also implies alignment is critical
metaldragon01: The same reason pause ai will fail is the same reason no one will slow down.
Accept that we will acc and make plans around it.
Wishful thinking otherwise
zonchao: yes
joaoluz19: I would extend this to any human institution, unless we have the guarantee that amplifying human intelligence hybridized with artificial augmentations would imply "reasonable" goods, I mean like not killing everyone or enslavement.
metaldragon01: There's no magic line to stop at
spicy.lemonade: no one is slowing down now because theres no direct risk
spicy.lemonade: lol
metaldragon01: Yes there is
spicy.lemonade: thats like openheimer slowing down
spicy.lemonade: before making bomb
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: we only see the direct risk after
metaldragon01: You're just parroting pause ai
metaldragon01: And it's the same bad arguments
joaoluz19: The problem with alignment is that it only follows the orders of humans. Ilimited power in the hand of few.
metaldragon01: The military makes more deadly weapons every year
metaldragon01: And will continue to
spicy.lemonade: no
metaldragon01: AI is a part of the tools of war and will also improve for national security
spicy.lemonade: we slowed down nukes
spicy.lemonade: because of direct
spicy.lemonade: cataclysmic
spicy.lemonade: ending
zonchao: there was no financial upside
spicy.lemonade: not because of small bad things
metaldragon01: You harness AI or you lose to those who do
spicy.lemonade: theres no financial upside to world ending yes
metaldragon01: There's no. Middle ground
spicy.lemonade: thats why we have MAD
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: same arguement for nukes
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: we have MAD
metaldragon01: Nukes are only weapons
zonchao: there is no financial upside in maintaining and making more nukes
joaoluz19: I don't like the decel idea, but thinking from a practical point of view if you ban giant datacenters you would stop all major efforts in AI
metaldragon01: Ai is everything
st.sioux: but nukes are only destructive
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brain4brain: O5 will likely be enough for LLM side, and visual reasoning progress will be exponential, it will be solved very soon
metaldragon01: Haven't seen any evidence of visual reasoning scaling yet tbh. At least not significantly so.
himekokatagiri: Wordle 1.404 X/6
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himekokatagiri: it was OZONE
metaldragon01: I do agree that o5 should be the minimum level to start seeing some human level ood performance
himekokatagiri: I feel dirty just by using the NYT website
.histic: yeah, it's a weird word to think about
himekokatagiri: I tried probe
.histic: y?
himekokatagiri: anyhow I decided to use 2.5
himekokatagiri: but it didn't work.
.histic: do you think bezos touched you?
himekokatagiri: it thought it up for 3 minutes
himekokatagiri: bezos?
.histic: wait nvm
himekokatagiri: NYT is bad cause they're journalists
himekokatagiri: journalists hate AI
himekokatagiri: because it's gonna replace them
himekokatagiri: you're never gonna see any publication defend AI
.histic: i thought bezos own NYT, but it was the Washington post..
.histic: they hate AI yet i feel like they use it a ton
.histic: opposite of artists
himekokatagiri: yeah their stance is uhhhh
himekokatagiri: AI for me but not for thee
brain4brain: The information and axios is pro-AI
.histic: https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1914905968632107418
.histic: it looks like it's 100 per week for o3 now.
.histic: o3 still has lower rate limits than o1 (it had 150 per week), even though it’s cheaper in the API. similarly, o4-mini is priced the same as o3-mini but has a lower rate limit. they’ve also cut the rate limit for 4.5 to 10 requests per week rather than 50. what is even happening..
.histic: guess they want to make more money.
st.sioux: help page still shows 50 a week for o3
.histic: is it updated for you?
st.sioux: idk it says updated yesterday
himekokatagiri: Jimmy apples is back?
himekokatagiri: huh, who knew
zoermena: Daddy sama give us o4 and my life is yours!
.histic: he was always black
.histic: back*
himekokatagiri: ooooh mama
.histic: jimmy hasn't leaked anything in a while
.histic: seems like the feds got him
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hikukomoru: What if you put o3 in one of these dudettes
zonchao: *thinking *
_cloudost: They will build a country
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: livebench
_cloudost: o3-mini n Gemini 2.5 could answer this prompt correctly ""In Among Us, a male astronaut discovered the Imposter's identity but couldn't report them because, as he shouted, 'That's my bestie!' Given this, who was the Imposter in relation to the male astronaut"
okbut: >Anthropic AI, do you even care that everyone else is rushing forward?
Imagine seething over a company that doesn't overhype pre-release
hikukomoru: We won't need mass migration into Europe anymore
Just use robots to do stuff
fractalcomputer: Realistically speaking, which do you think would be easier for OpenAI and their team of bespoke lawyers, fluent in legalese; to set a new precedent for international copyright law *or* simply comply within the boundaries of usual conduct?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
st.sioux: pro might be worth it now
st.sioux: watch google release something better for free next week
anathemaofmankind: You can make a full replica of Pikachu using photoshop.
The consumer is in control of the request. As long as it's not making copies of its accord, the onus is on the consumer
spicy.lemonade: yeah google is only lower on coding and reasoning
fractalcomputer: Sure. But the consumer isn't the one creating the copyrighted material here, is he?
spicy.lemonade: ilove how livebench reset their scores
spicy.lemonade: and still getting saturated
.histic: wait, did they demo full o4's benchmark? didn't see the video.
anathemaofmankind: They're the one asking for it. AI has no current agency. It is a tool
st.sioux: if i'm not mistaken github copilot does have policies in place to not use licensed code in their responses, or at least warn you that you're using licensed material
fractalcomputer: Convince the wronged parties.
anathemaofmankind: Also making a minecraft clone doesn't break any copyright laws to begin with. As long as you're not ripping off code or textures from the game. Or calling it "Minecraft".
There are hundreds of minecraft clones in the play store
.histic: <@471334973379706900> wait im mistaken <:LOL:1187460826572005436> read it wrong
fractalcomputer: That's not the topic of the discussion at hand.
spicy.lemonade: what
.histic: it was something i deleted
_cloudost:
.histic: <@471334973379706900> did you see the new reasoning UI?
spicy.lemonade: no
fractalcomputer: Again, legal topics should generally not be approached through the lens of what you think is right or should be the case. Jurisprudential pragmatism and *money* tend to decide the outcome.
.histic: if you input an image, it looks like this
oscurrito: cant wait for full o4
anathemaofmankind: I'm not a lawyer so II'll just deep search this
st.sioux: there is already a very complicated precedent with proving code is stolen, since minor modifications can obscure the original source
st.sioux: a guy at the company i work with went to jail because he used propietary code in his personal projects and the only reason he did is because he literally copied and pasted it
st.sioux: they said if he hadnt done that he would have walked off
anathemaofmankind: How many years did he get
st.sioux: dont know felt too uncomfortable asking
st.sioux: was uncomfortable all around lol
anathemaofmankind: Imagine going to jail over copy pasting some text
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hikukomoru: Please, that's such an outdated term
I prefer gooner
wellmeaningalien: mb i'll user the correct proronouns in the future
wellmeaningalien: goon/er
futurist_wizard: You can goon just stop being so ratty about it
hey1_1hey: I find it crazy that people can just imagine things in there head. I often think that I could litterly be living another life in paradise but I cant even imagine an apple
_3sphere: The imagined paradises aren't all that great
_3sphere: At best you can comfort yourself with a pretty scene
futurist_wizard: You can't see things inside your head?
.wolfnacht: i was yesterday making an NEET GF card and grok came with this line in backstory which made me crack "Once vibrant classmates who graduated together, they now share a degenerate lifestyle, bonding over porn, anime, and mutual unemployment"
hey1_1hey: That'd be cool
hey1_1hey: No, never have been able to
_3sphere: aphantasia must suck when you're horny 😭
hikukomoru: He's an NPC
futurist_wizard: How do you decide on like...? Things
hey1_1hey: Weirdly enough if I stop trying to think about what I want and let my mind wonder I straight up forget I have eyes and can see perfectly whats in my head
futurist_wizard: Decisions
hikukomoru: I have tons of NEET gf cards
I love all of them equally
hey1_1hey: I have amphatasia but only when I need it msot
.wolfnacht: i can imagine a whole paradise of myself being king of some Amazonian milfs in my head.
hey1_1hey: Wdym?
.wolfnacht: dats the power of Hyperphantasia
hey1_1hey: Its just like I cant ese things in my head
hey1_1hey: Lucky mf
futurist_wizard: What happens inside your head
hey1_1hey: Nothing
hey1_1hey: I have an interal monoluge all day every day but nothing visual
hikukomoru: I can't stop seeing things in my head
hikukomoru: It's just noise and images all the time
futurist_wizard: So you are just always responding to instant stimulus
futurist_wizard: Same
_3sphere: Visualization for escapism/gooning gets better if you consciously try to step through every relevant detail and moment in time, but it takes an extreme amount of focus
hey1_1hey: Expand on that, what do you mean by instant stimulus?
futurist_wizard: Like you see things and just do things
futurist_wizard: See it do it
futurist_wizard: Hear it respond to it
futurist_wizard: Smell it respond
hey1_1hey: I mean yeah, what else are you supposed to do? Imagine the secnario in your head and make out outcomes and be like "ok now that I have done that I will do it in real life"
hey1_1hey: At that point you are living in 2 seperate realities
futurist_wizard: I swear i exist in my own head more than i do in reality
hikukomoru: That's called Maladaptive daydreaming
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brain4brain: Drop your Twitter handle bro
brain4brain: Ohhhhhh
brain4brain: The deepguesser thing
drewsni: https://x.com/DeepGuessr
drewsni: lmao
brain4brain: Preparing a thread
brain4brain: 🔥🔥🔥
drewsni: sounds like something bindu herself would write
drewsni: perfect
brain4brain: Gotta clickbait-max
brain4brain: Might throw in “rain bolt” to make it even more clickbait
drewsni: dont forget the globe emoji
brain4brain: Where should it be put
drewsni: just spam it at the end
brain4brain: Should I tag you in the thread or in the post, so the algorithm doesn’t limit it
drewsni: sure lol i have no clue how the algo works
metaldragon01: thread obv
metaldragon01: want max reach
brain4brain: Go repost and like your own eval
https://x.com/notbrain4brain/status/1915260796218843412?s=61
brain4brain: The black mirror plaything episodes is literally the average singularitoid
juweigege_54993: Anyone got any place you want to be in FDVR?
hikukomoru: I got a few
Faerun
Tamriel
Mallus (WH Fantasy world)
juweigege_54993: Fellow Warhammer fan.
otub: rokos basilisk enjoyer
hikukomoru: Only WH Fantasy
Not a fan of 40k
Just prefer Fantasy stuff over sci-fi
zoermena: A place where I’m not fucking constipated that’s where I want to be because right now I want to jump off a cliff
clevermoniker: see? stop your 2025 nonsense
playstation.6: roon is fed idk how you didn’t see it soooner
playstation.6: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
juweigege_54993: Not fan of 40K, either. Too overrated.
joaoluz19: Sorry I need to spam that image, it's so funny to me
joaoluz19: A palace
.histic: shit... we eating good tonight
.histic: plus users now get 25 queries per month.
.histic: but deep research feels less competitive nowadays
.histic: Plus - 25 / month
Pro - 250 / month
.histic: Demis said there's a 50% chance AGI will happen within the next 5-10 years. well, at least he isn't hyping it up hard like other CEOs. considering Google now can create SOTA models I would trust his judgment more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6iNv3YHNac
zoermena: We are so back
brain4brain: It's still possible
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spacetimetsunami: lmao jesus
anathemaofmankind: Ok but my main assertion is that it can just be finetuned to say otherwise.
Elon Musk being incompetent is not an indication of the actual difficulty of doing so
spacetimetsunami: that is cray
spacetimetsunami: No i agree that it can be finetuned
spacetimetsunami: But it will get harder to do that as time goes on
spacetimetsunami: because of scheming and value preservation
anathemaofmankind: If you're wrong, we're all dead.
So that's something
spacetimetsunami: and also im pretty sure larger smarter models are more resistant to techniques involved in finetuning
spacetimetsunami: like very resistant
.histic:
spacetimetsunami: And it would be in literally almost nobody's self interest to make the model politically nuts as shit
spacetimetsunami: like
spacetimetsunami: except elon
spacetimetsunami: but he had a chance to, tried, and didnt
st.sioux: this is cool
_cloudost: Can you ask the native image gen to draw Soldier from TF2, mine keeps refusing because of Copyright laws
spacetimetsunami: Like the government isnt making these things
spacetimetsunami: luckily
anathemaofmankind: Perhaps.
If it happens even once, it's over
spacetimetsunami: not necessarily. i am assuming you have been greatly influenced by rationalists like eliezer
.histic: <@471334973379706900> or <@1316552597829586955> can do that
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/gfodor/status/1904754510595317856?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
.histic: don't have access <:idk:1136264106937171999>
_cloudost: <@471334973379706900>
spicy.lemonade: Ok
anathemaofmankind: You're surprisingly optimistic despite recent events in the geopolitical sphere
spacetimetsunami: I think things are very concerning from that perspective but i think that is quite separate
st.sioux: <@590577270926868480>
spacetimetsunami: I do not fear p(doom) from rogue AI
spacetimetsunami: I fear it from rogue human and insane dictators
st.sioux: i fear p(doom) from rogue muskrat and dementia trump
anathemaofmankind: Well same for me
spacetimetsunami: I fear it from animals with limbic systems, tribalism, resource aquisition, etc etc
spacetimetsunami: not from neural nets with none of those things
spacetimetsunami: the supposed instrumental convergence posited by alignment rationalists seems unlikely
spacetimetsunami: Like accumulating resources, wiping out humans etc
spacetimetsunami: But it only seems unlikely based on the context of alignment we currently occupy
spacetimetsunami: as long as AGI emerges from this architecture we'll likely be okay in that regard IMO
spacetimetsunami: and it seems like it will emerge from that
st.sioux: Are you optimistic about AI then? Like in general, about post-scarcity and the like? I'm not particularly worried about it going rogue and killing us, I'm more concerned about the social and economic implications it will have especially on poorer countries
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3ds0662: and their using it to fill increasing demand
spicy.lemonade: and blackwell chips came in this year
3ds0662: they jumped up to 500m users
spicy.lemonade: you think theyl stop scaling bc of demand
spicy.lemonade: and lose to google?
3ds0662: idk i have to see gpt-5
3ds0662: if gpt-5 is bad i give up on them
spicy.lemonade: what does bad mean to you?
3ds0662: yes possibly
spicy.lemonade: are you expecting agi
3ds0662: non improvement and competition catches up/overruns them
3ds0662: yes asi too
3ds0662: give me machine god
spicy.lemonade: competition always catches up
spicy.lemonade: wdym
spicy.lemonade: google is neck and neck
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 will catch up to gpt5
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mean itl be bad
3ds0662: yes but it will determine who i concentrate on if another model is better i have zero loyalty
spicy.lemonade: openAI always drops first though
spicy.lemonade: so youl be hype for them
spicy.lemonade: until google drops
3ds0662: idk about that others have been dropping like crazy lol 😂
spicy.lemonade: theyve been catching up
3ds0662: yeahhh
spicy.lemonade: openAI always does the paradigm shifts
spicy.lemonade: everyone catches up or makes slight improvement over
3ds0662: im kinda of sad for meta
3ds0662: llama release was pathetic
3ds0662: lol 😂
3ds0662: didnt think they would get kicked out of this race soo quickly
3ds0662: welp they are out
3ds0662: yeahh but thats shaky at best now
3ds0662: test time compute was their last paradigm shift
3ds0662: and they cant even release the raw o models after o1 cause of insane cost
3ds0662: the agents they are trying to reease now are frickin pay to win cucked
spicy.lemonade: o3 is cheaper than o1
3ds0662: if it wasnt for competition they would be charging us out the wazoo for subscriptions
3ds0662: thank god
3ds0662: distilled o3
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trojan09205: I voted Target for my first stop
maintcrew: one more é and your skull is getting bashed
aero447: He was literally retarded?
trojan09205: Proximity wins
hikukomoru: Stop adding those gay little accents to every letter
aero447: Killed millions with his great leap forward.
themostwanted774: You all are retards<:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-blow-kisses-blow-kiss-chu-gif-7279350028791621942
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes his ideas were bad but he was a good leader for the war, not much else
The British were smart, they deposed Churchill the moment that reactionary twat stopped being useful
maintcrew: wtf i literally just send my pirate goons to get your list
they are literally attacking a greek flagged ship docking in ny for ur shit right now
trojan09205: Bro did they get the rawhides
aero447: No-one tell him we re-elected Churchill again.
aero447: 🤣
trojan09205: Tell them to wtch out for the houthis
alejandrozarzuelo: This Means that Xi is becoming more and more of a figurehead leader than one that exerts executive power like Trump
Xi has gradually delegated away power
maintcrew: literally just said they are docking in ny rn i dont think houthis have progressed that far 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why you don't hear about him as often
alejandrozarzuelo: Good
themostwanted774: Rule 4
alejandrozarzuelo: I never liked him
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
themostwanted774: It's politics talk right?
hikukomoru: Man shut your bitch ass up
ldj: Frontier Labs is also a broad term, some people would not say Alibaba or Meta count as a frontier lab, and there is other labs as well outside of the acronym that some people *would* consider to be frontier labs.
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh yeah this isn't off topic
alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you ping me on a China convo when it is not in offtopic
themostwanted774: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/thoth-tot-toth-kemetism-kemetic-gif-27058137
trojan09205: Then watch out for the Thothis
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1918346132557905955
wolf3404: In case you were wondering why OAI suddenly decided to open source something
aero447: I'm gonna give you one chance sir.
aero447: Then, we take your balls.
aero447: 🫵😐
clevermoniker: yeah, probably... lol
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Furry genocide..
futurist_wizard: That's surprising
futurist_wizard: A lot of time you come off as China's strongest soldier
ldj: OpenAI has been planning this open source release for over a year, it’s not something that is just starting now, and there is already email proof of Elon acknowledging that the company would only be open source at the beginning and would later become close source once capabilities become powerful enough.
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zoermena: 4o image gen for free will be delayed
st.sioux: they just said they're not giving free users native image generation
hey1_1hey: Dall-E is straight dumpster fire 🔥 🔥 🗣️
st.sioux: they made the announcement recently
.histic:
ailoveyoom: Sama's milk
hey1_1hey: Thats a big 2 literes
ailoveyoom: 🥵
hikukomoru: ??? I'm 20
archon.e:
zoermena: I asked it to make a happy image I guess the cat just looks naturally angry <@688807313015963693>
archon.e: Yeah this is dalle. Its shit
st.sioux: thats what an underage would say
.histic: not bad ig..
zoermena: Someone said you weren’t im confused 🤪
alejandrozarzuelo: its ok i really like this one
alejandrozarzuelo: hshshsh
st.sioux: reminds me of puss in boots
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/puss-puss-in-boots-wink-salute-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-gif-27434672
fractalcomputer: Alejandro, what is your height in terms of b ± (4a)/2?
hikukomoru: I don't think there are any minors here besides Mushroom guy and Brain4Brain 🙏
hey1_1hey: MICH MACH YOU CANT REACT WITH A HOT FACE TO A CAT
st.sioux: i was thinking the same thing lol
ailoveyoom: But bro winked at me...
ailoveyoom: 🥺
hey1_1hey: "Underage"
18
How old is brain anyway?
zoermena: I thought mushroom was in his 20s too
hikukomoru: He's like 14 or smth
ailoveyoom: <@848793071579693107> if you want to do age reveal
hey1_1hey: I'll allow it then
hey1_1hey: Nah, I'm 18 but thank you anyway
hey1_1hey: I think
zoermena: Oh
oooooooooog: he joined in 2018, that would mean he joined at 7 years old
hikukomoru: He thought you were old 🙏
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364
.histic: you think?
hey1_1hey: Occasionally
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Bro what were you doing on discord at 7 years old
oooooooooog: you guys were literally just talking about how you were the same age and laughing at everyone being old
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