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alejandrozarzuelo: dudes
alejandrozarzuelo: realize its over i wanna see you cope
_3sphere: I'm also on the line to get replaced by AI, the only reason I can take it is that I'm a nihilistic failure anyway
alejandrozarzuelo: I wanna get replaced
alejandrozarzuelo: by AI
_3sphere: if I had actual motivation and a vision for the future that got squashed by AI it'd hurt much worse
alejandrozarzuelo: imagine AI replacing all mathematicians, we would get centuries, millenia of more math every year
alejandrozarzuelo: so much math
alejandrozarzuelo: we cant do that much math
alejandrozarzuelo: the same thing applies to art imho
spicy.lemonade: today
alejandrozarzuelo: getting replaced means that your field of work will improve exponentially faster than when you did work there
ailoveyoom: Common nihilist W?
ailoveyoom: 🤔
_3sphere: :3
ailoveyoom: 😎
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: its because artists
spicy.lemonade: online
spicy.lemonade: are coping hard
spicy.lemonade: and rejecting info
spicy.lemonade: you hate ai
spicy.lemonade: sure
spicy.lemonade: understandable
maintcrew: no
maintcrew:
spicy.lemonade: but the cope on its capability is annoying
_3sphere: Software engineering being on the way out in the next decade or two was foreseeable with GPT-3 and obvious with reasoners
_3sphere: unless there's a massively underestimated roadblock with executive function
_3sphere: Remember when Sabine's "beef" was with superdeterminism and black hole info paradox instead of how particle physics is a fraud and how everything is hype
alejandrozarzuelo: sabine is good
alejandrozarzuelo: in old school stuff
alejandrozarzuelo: like, she is the classic old conservative who is very skilled at their topic but who doesnt move on with the times well
_3sphere: Sabine when I use Claude 3.8 to make a 1000km particle accelerator in orbit
maintcrew: so u cant teach old dogs a new trick
_3sphere: OpenAI is chilling out with the censorship nowadays
_3sphere: 4o in general
maintcrew: idk ive tried to watch a few times but its always on some doomer shit
alejandrozarzuelo: you can, but not all dogs are willing to be taught
alejandrozarzuelo: Her videos on energy are generally good
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spicy.lemonade: Yes
hikukomoru: Talk about whatever you want here boo
zoermena: I had a rich classmate tell me he met this dude who sold bull testicles for millions of Mexican pesos
zoermena: Is it good?
technocake.: wait they just cold dropped 4.1?
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: 4o image gen
hey1_1hey: Thats monoploy money to me
spicy.lemonade: lol
hey1_1hey: How much is a peso
hikukomoru: If I'm talking about crushing testicles with hammers then you can talk about anything
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Original
futurist_wizard: Thats a lie, bull testicles ain't worth that much
zoermena: Wow, fuck you but that’s good bait
hey1_1hey: 37k normal money
hey1_1hey: Pretty impressive
futurist_wizard: Even still
zoermena: One pound is 20 pesos IIRC
hey1_1hey: 26 so yeah around there
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah we call are money so many different names over here
hey1_1hey: quid, pound, fiver, tenner, twenty, squid
zoermena: Yeah I have 5 squids
hikukomoru: Who calls money squid
technocake.: dollar nickel dime bucks
hikukomoru: What's wrong with you all
technocake.: he's not joking
zoermena: I find it wholesome actually
hey1_1hey: Its just what some people call it
hey1_1hey: They are wrong but hey ho
hey1_1hey: Theres some proper wacky ones like dins, paps and skies
hey1_1hey: Those are used by drug dealer/roadmen type tho
hikukomoru: I'll give you 5 squids for your balls
hey1_1hey: Bargin
futurist_wizard: British slang
technocake.: like bugger is used as a lighter swear than fuck or arse but it literally means to fuck someone in the arse
hey1_1hey: Some people are actually incoherent. Like theres a few people (prob because of the autism) but I just straight up dont know what they are saying
technocake.: and the welshness no ddoubt
zoermena: I accept
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alejandrozarzuelo: The limit is human weakness
alejandrozarzuelo: We will never achieve greatness on our own
alejandrozarzuelo: So, sure let AI coach l
alejandrozarzuelo: It won't matter much
fuhulootogan: the blackbird aircraft was created in 1960 capable of going up to mach 3+ and it still stands today as one of the fastest aircrafts
fuhulootogan: to put this into comparison the gameboy was created 30 years later in 1989
fuhulootogan: so yeah
wellmeaningalien: i mean most chess players learn by memorizing from the greats
st.sioux: it gives an unfair competitive advantage, as well as for the sake of preserving human elements and integrity, shadow coaching is already banned in a lot of sports leagues
alejandrozarzuelo: And now they do it by nemorizibh from AI
wellmeaningalien: thats quite a comparison huh
wellmeaningalien: game console vs plane
st.sioux: when mercedes creates some innovative tech for f1 the FIA bans it instantly
fuhulootogan: i mean tbf the gameboy is ancient
alejandrozarzuelo: But idk why that would be a problem? Human biology won't change
wellmeaningalien: ai is just the next learning tool
alejandrozarzuelo: Coaching is not new reçu
alejandrozarzuelo: Tech
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: not that ai is necessarily a tool but here it is
fuhulootogan: no color just pixels
fuhulootogan: very ancient
alejandrozarzuelo: We have to remember humans are pathetic
fuhulootogan: oh wait
wellmeaningalien: lol yeah fair ig
fuhulootogan: let me catch up on the convo
alejandrozarzuelo: You can give a human a thousand times better coaching that it will only get 1% better, give it a billion times more coaching and maybe another 1%
wellmeaningalien: to be fair sega game gear of the same era had color and backlight
futurist_wizard: Kapow
wellmeaningalien: but it was too expensive and too much batteries
futurist_wizard: Kaplat
wellmeaningalien: and im just nerding out now
alejandrozarzuelo: An infinite amount of coaching won't help
fuhulootogan: oh yeah
fuhulootogan: the no color version was cheaper so imma just basically compare that one
fuhulootogan: since its a highlight
wellmeaningalien: in the end ur point is right because the technological limations of the time made the gameboy objectively more successful than those competitors
st.sioux: if you're talking about coaching during training or simulations that is already fair game im talking about competition
wellmeaningalien: like the atari lynx and game gear
fuhulootogan: what
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zoermena: Data entry is so boring ong
sweetievee__33649: couldnt ai automate most of data entry?
.histic: better than a physical job tbh
st.sioux: what do you do in data entry
zoermena: Yes but this is like a scanned document so can’t really copy the text.
sweetievee__33649: enter data i suppose
zoermena: Car stuff, it’s just what I do when there’s nothing to do.
maintcrew: ocr?
maintcrew: bro ocr has been semi solved
maintcrew: didnt mistral release a model specifically for this too
drewsni: Me telling my old boss this in 2022 lol
zoermena: What’s that
maintcrew: recognizing text on a scanned document
drewsni: Your life is gonna be changed
zoermena: I’ve seen it on my iPhone but yeah never thought of it on a PC
drewsni: Hook that shit up to Gemini flash tbh
st.sioux: gotta take advantage of that tech bro
st.sioux: dont tell ur boss tho
maintcrew: wait try the new gemini one maybe its way better
drewsni: As long as it’s not cursive, it’s extremely reliable
maintcrew: even cursive it has to be fucked uppp
drewsni: At this point ocr is solved enough that structured output consistency is a lot more important
zoermena: Now that I have some money from my paycheck I want to play with some new tech and build stuff
drewsni: It’s literally free dawg
st.sioux: aistudio.google.com/
zoermena: I’ll def check it out later
sweetievee__33649: i always see things that i want and then when i get paid i dont want anything anymore
sweetievee__33649: aistudio 🙏
my wife
zoermena: Wait OH so you mean just screenshot and let the AI give the output?
drewsni: What documents are you doing data entry on. Physical or digital?
zoermena: Digital
drewsni: PDF I’m assuming?
zoermena: Yes but I would be ok if I did if screenshot by screenshot
drewsni: Dawg I’m about to change your life. Just ask pro 2.5 to write a script that points to any folder that has the documents, and to ocr w/ consistent structured output
drewsni: Tbh you don’t even need to do that
drewsni: You can just upload them directly to ai studio and pro 2.5 will output like 60k tokens at a time
sweetievee__33649: zor is about to transcend with this wisdom
drewsni: (Data privacy issues obviously)
zoermena: My boss doesn’t care about data privacy to be honest, we use an online platform to edit pdfs of companies (clients)
hey1_1hey: Am I like the only one who doesn't know what OCR is?
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hey1_1hey: IM BACK
hey1_1hey: I've never been so happy to be back on windows bruh
okbut: Results from attempting to configure Arch Linux
zonchao: did you quit already?
zonchao: <:lmao:1223379150686126152>
brain4brain: <@750270494615404544> is this true
zonchao: ?
okbut: I love a GPT with humor
I remember asking o1-preview "remove all the unnecessary line breaks from this python code" and it rewrote the entire 100 line script as 1 line
hey1_1hey: Nah I just had to make sure everything was safe. Like the 100k autism post about my favourite show 💀
okbut: What's the best distro for libertymaxxing UI
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-smirk-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-11885783305913878074
spicy.lemonade: @grok castrate him
okbut: But Elon Time usually applies only to predictions of at least 3 or "a few weeks" or longer, I think we can expect next week but no earlier than Tuesday, no later than Sunday midnight
zonchao: yea
zonchao: supergrok subscribers finally eating good
zonchao: <:peepoFat:832730119154958427>
zonchao: BREAKING: xAI having issues building their second datacenter because of woke local politicians... 👀
metaldragon01: Intelligence isn't the main product anymore
metaldragon01: It's what the labs offer to support that intelligence.
This is seen in products like deep research or the new shopping features ect
metaldragon01: Unless they plan to stay in openai shadow they need a bigger team in order to actually innovate
metaldragon01: Only google seems to be bringing unique products to customers in the form of things like notebook lm
metaldragon01: Or the application of reliable long context
okbut: Wonder why shit is moving to texas
metaldragon01: I expect grok 3.5 to be sota but I'm not sure it's going to be adopted outside of the AI bubble unless it can actually do something the wider consumer base wants that they aren't getting out of 2.5 or o3 esp at the price point offered
okbut: Idk, regard X, where the normies put Grok in every comment section
zonchao: yep, the tweet has been deleted by the xAI employee, hopefully its sorted, but they might build their next dc in texas
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/QF6Y-KPSSCU?si=N_k_6q-eU8mjKQte
Good points are made here
futurist_wizard: R.I.P automated society, put on your construction hat
okbut: I hardly put any "Might" behind it, even Sama did it
zonchao: probably around here
okbut: Elon already decided to put rocket development foundations in Texas because of the regulations in Cali, ~~maybe~~ partially because of the spite that Cali officials had shown for him/his companies as well
okbut:
zonchao: florida and texas will be the 2 states, florida will have more space activity when the launch towers are built
zonchao: this is just him using the moment, im pretty sure starbase was going to be the HQ anyway
_cloudost: <@848793071579693107> its so over u/boobear says that AI will plateau
okbut: Maybe but so soon is wild
zonchao: yea
zonchao: but like, this is just legal bs, they still use hawthorne
okbut: Hawthorne for launches yeah
I wonder if they're seeking retirement of that too
zonchao: yea, starbase is officially becoming a city next week btw
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destrucules: Pretty sure the frontier models available to the public today are well into level 4 by this schema
literallyvarane: For me there are probably 2 parts for this to be compelling as a level 4
destrucules: "Okay the AIs produce novel contributions to maths and science and biology but it's not *real* innovation" come on now. We're done with that crap
literallyvarane: 1. Being able to come up with original novel hypotheses across non-trivially disconnected multiple domains.
2. Being able to work toward, or propose specific means of verifying those hypotheses, with or without human assistance.
_3sphere: These levels are for full autonomy
_3sphere: It can make novel contributions, but still needs the context set up more than a human would
literallyvarane: These aren’t unified models though. Alphafold, AlphaTensor etc are narrow scope tools. There is *clearly* AI capable of innovation if it’s tailored to that specific purpose.
_3sphere: PhD-level as the AIs are, they still can't reliably use a computer for hours
literallyvarane: Unless I’m missing some model that’s demonstrated innovation across multiple fields.
_3sphere: The capabilities are uneven and if I understand right, the levels are specifically about the kind of agency current models struggle with
literallyvarane: I assume openAI’s level 4 speaks to a model being *generally* capable, and not narrow scope capable.
spicy.lemonade: not general though
spicy.lemonade: not as flexible as language
destrucules: I'm talking about generalist foundation models that are passing peer review in ML and discovering novel biology on their own and solving bleeding edge maths research problems better than the overwhelming majority of human mathematicians
spicy.lemonade: you cant say
spicy.lemonade: "go solve this problem with this requirements"
destrucules: Yes you can
spicy.lemonade: those narrow ones were like hard coded in solutions
destrucules: Y'all clearly didn't see the recent CogRev episode about this
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: they were bound to the limits of the program
spicy.lemonade: alphatensor could not use knowledge from physics
spicy.lemonade: or something
literallyvarane: I’m not aware of any model that’s solving, let alone contributing to, truly frontier math.
spicy.lemonade: or a research paper that was developed
spicy.lemonade: to aid its research
spicy.lemonade: big difference
destrucules: https://youtu.be/Jo31LEns2zY
destrucules: https://research.google/blog/accelerating-scientific-breakthroughs-with-an-ai-co-scientist/
destrucules: >>> As a third validation, we focused on generating hypotheses to explain bacterial gene transfer evolution mechanisms related to antimicrobial resistance (AMR) — microbes' evolved mechanisms to resist infection-treating drugs. This is another complex challenge that involves understanding the molecular mechanisms of gene transfer (conjugation, transduction, and transformation) alongside the ecological and evolutionary pressures that drive AMR genes to spread.
For this test, expert researchers instructed the AI co-scientist to explore a topic that had already been subject to novel discovery in their group, but had not yet been revealed in the public domain, namely, to explain how capsid-forming phage-inducible chromosomal islands (cf-PICIs) exist across multiple bacterial species. The AI co-scientist system independently proposed that cf-PICIs interact with diverse phage tails to expand their host range. This in silico discovery, which had been experimentally validated in the original novel laboratory experiments performed prior to use of the AI co-scientist system, are described in co-timed manuscripts (1, 2) with our collaborators at the Fleming Initiative and Imperial College London.
popsiclejohnithan: If they truly have then things are going to get very exciting.
.histic: The Information reported that these "innovators" will cost upwards to 2000 per month
.histic: so, it better be good.
.histic: probably full o4 that's agentic.
popsiclejohnithan: It has to be if they are confidant enough to charge that price.
st.sioux: you think it will be able to interact with desktops?
st.sioux: like not just limited to one app
.histic: no clue <:idk:1136264106937171999>
it could even be full o4 with deep research and that's it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
3ds0662: 2k per month???
3ds0662: I'm fucked
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spicy.lemonade: they arent like a genie misinterpreting what we ask
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
alejandrozarzuelo: if we augment our vision
alejandrozarzuelo: to be perfectly saturated in the human field of view
alejandrozarzuelo: which we should
alejandrozarzuelo: we might need to change all of our screens
alejandrozarzuelo: because, with so much definition of color, RGB wont cut it
alejandrozarzuelo: we would need RYGCB+
spicy.lemonade: and optimizing. if we started with rl before llms wed essentially train a model on all steam games. train it to be a winner then try to teach it language but then itd only say stuff to satisfy us. alignment cooked. lecun is wrong about LLMS
spicy.lemonade: starting with it might have actually saved our asses
joaoluz19: Bro black mirror s07ep4 is literally singularity lol
joaoluz19: They mention it explicitly
okbut: Maybe I'm misunderstanding the long plot: Isn't there cognitive dissonance between making an AI that cannot hallucinate, and one that can solve new problems?
spicy.lemonade: humans hallucinate
spicy.lemonade: the difference is
okbut: Or especially: Create new ideas
spicy.lemonade: we have ability to check our work through real world intreaction
spicy.lemonade: if i asked you what you did 10 years ago
spicy.lemonade: on this date
spicy.lemonade: youd hallucinate
spicy.lemonade: or rather what you did on your birthday
spicy.lemonade: last year
spicy.lemonade: youd still hallucinate
alejandrozarzuelo: nah, i would simply say i dont remember
alejandrozarzuelo: this is a better comparison
spicy.lemonade: yeah thats what needs to be solved
spicy.lemonade: AI needs to know what it doesnt know
spicy.lemonade: not get everything correct
spicy.lemonade: like people think
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a difference between hallucination and nor remembering
okbut: In other words: There are good and bad hallucinations, thus approach a net positive better than humans
spicy.lemonade: when people think 0% hallucination rate
spicy.lemonade: they go "ahah it must answer everything corect"
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: you might go "I think i ... im not sure though"
spicy.lemonade: or just random hallucinations
spicy.lemonade: like where you left your wallet
spicy.lemonade: "i swear i left it right here"
spicy.lemonade: or mandella effect
spicy.lemonade: humans dont have 0% hallucination rate
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drewsni:
wellmeaningalien: no he was talking about the bigger model "behemoth"
wellmeaningalien: both maverick and scout are absolutely ready for release
wellmeaningalien: thats why needle in a haystack is shit lol
gamerbath: in all the benchmarks I have seen that include cost comparisons, maverick and scout don't look bad
wellmeaningalien: yep facts o3-min is absolutely retared here and it shows
wellmeaningalien: no fucking idea dude
wellmeaningalien: yeah using metrics like lmarena elo?
zonchao: he keeps coming back 😭
hikukomoru: >Yann LeCun reposted
Holy based
zonchao: Yann "I will not use X" Lecun
fractalcomputer: Another day, another [dumb career choice] thrown off a cliff.
fractalcomputer: (I have sacrificed approximately 3 ethicists to Nyarlathotep in the past two days.)
3ds0662: the latest news on llama 4 is very very disappointing
3ds0662: same as well 😭
futurist_wizard: The most important degree to study is travel and tourism
3ds0662: it failed soo many benchmarks when tested by individual users the model is 3.2 level of intelligence smh
futurist_wizard: I studied film, literally over
3ds0662: lecun is a fraud all he can do is tweet about his political opinion and hate for trump and elon but what does that do when you can't even release a good model
3ds0662: he was talking sooo much shit and glazing himself as a top expert I see now why he hates llms
3ds0662: its not because llms are actually bad, the meta research team is so inept its impossible for them to get up to date and compete with the research teams releasing now
fractalcomputer: Are you purposefully writing in a style Altman can understand?
st.sioux: maverick is kinda dogshit for me, roocode cant apply diffs correctly and it has to rewrite the entire file
st.sioux: waste of tokens
st.sioux: only model this happens with
3ds0662: why altman? makes no sense
fractalcomputer: Yes, Icarus, it is a joke on the fact that Altman always types in lowercase letters on Twitter.
3ds0662: ohhh
3ds0662: lol true
3ds0662: at least its free right but, now no longer going to listen to lecun he's a con artist lol
futurist_wizard: Whys Lecun a con artist
3ds0662: his takes are so wildly brazen and disrespectful you'd expect him to at least release a better model than whats out right now
3ds0662: but so far he can't make a competing llm, and he can't make one with his so called world models either
3ds0662: I wonder what he said about llama 4 on twitter lol bet he's praising it just cause its made by meta hypocrite
futurist_wizard: But he proactively rejects LLM's as being the future
futurist_wizard: So it probably expected that he doesn't release a competing model
3ds0662: https://x.com/ylecun/status/1908616923786719483
3ds0662: LOL
3ds0662: bro is hilariously strong in cognitive dissonance
3ds0662: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1908601011989782976
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retrerox: r u ok?
hey1_1hey: Eh, for the most part now yeah. I still got this overarching sense of doom over me but thats tempoary
hey1_1hey: I should be ok within 3-5 days. 2 weeks max
retrerox: Tbh presidents should not be younger than 35 and not older than 60
retrerox: ALthought first trump mandate was not that bad
brain4brain: I’m surprised it needed reasoning to get this right
3ds0662: it was bad it was soo bad i now understand why yan hates llms so much he can’t make them
sieventer: I can't imagine having a panic attack for so long, what the fuck ·-·
.wolfnacht: that pikachu looks too perfect to be true
.wolfnacht: now i need veo2 more
hey1_1hey: Yeah it was pretty horrible. Im alright now though for the most part
nobranes: Yann sees llms as just one part of the brain which I agree whole heatedly with(I don't have internal monologue ) But I think he underestimates how much intelligence you can cram into language
hey1_1hey: I missed one 24 hour peirod in AI and now theres o4, o4-mini, GPT 4.1, Yann saying he isn't interesteed in LLMs anymore
a1c4p0ne: pro users first
3ds0662: tbh i dont consider him or meta to be in this race even anymore
3ds0662: thx for llama but at the pace these other companies are shipping including google openai deepseek etc… unlikely they catchup at this point
3ds0662: idk i see it as meta being on a downtrend completely first metaverse and vr, then this someone needs to do a code red alert to zuck lol 😂
3ds0662: put the company in emergency mode and refactor from there
3ds0662: google did and look at how their moving now
3ds0662: they might need to remove yann altogether from my perspective and just go with someone either more positive, younger etc… hes holding them back at this point
3ds0662: Im calling yann lecun getting fired from meta this year as my prediction
3ds0662: his antics and actions have been too brazen for his output
nobranes: Their work outside Llama is very impressive and I appreciate trying a different approach but realistically Google have this in the bag
destrucules: I mean the answer was correct both times. The first one was just miscounted in terms of how far from the left the image the model was looking at was.
.wolfnacht: any announcement from openai today ?
brain4brain: I think tomorrow based on Sam’s tweet
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
brain4brain: I’ve done more testing to try to see if LLM can be creative, and now I’m even more confused and unsure
okbut: OAI considering a token-efficient programming language?
https://x.com/sama/status/1911504092276621801
_cloudost: When will Sam Altman start
_cloudost: The
_cloudost: Stream?
777agical: the usual time probably
brain4brain: Wow
brain4brain: 2 years ago, Jimmy predicted it
wellmeaningalien: whats up today
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4.1 releasse today
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7XHwMMSas
wellmeaningalien: alright rocket boy
zonchao: bezos sending baddies to space
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thedon7075: without going against guidelines
a1c4p0ne: No restrictions for 2.5 deepresearch
a1c4p0ne: Just need a very good prompt
thedon7075: idek what that is, these names are so confusing
thedon7075: is that the open ai one?
thedon7075: no, its gemini
a1c4p0ne: lol
thedon7075: ok yea i see it, gemini
a1c4p0ne: You need gemini advanced
a1c4p0ne: I got 6 months free cuz I bought a new samsung
thedon7075: what is this one?
a1c4p0ne: deep research
thedon7075: but not 2.5?
a1c4p0ne: You need gemini advanced plan
a1c4p0ne: No advanced no 2.5
okbut: Something speaks to the nature of humanity—that the frontier AI space is an ethereal cascade of fleeting shizos, sometimes just retards, blended turbulently with savants in revolution and research
a1c4p0ne:
okbut: When I first dove into this domain, I had at one of those in my DM's, offering me tips and advice on implementing my own API for research functions. 3 months later I realize he's the other
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-siuuu-siuuu-suiii-cr7-alnassr-gif-3078696693923136051
thedon7075: will you use it for other sports
a1c4p0ne: yes
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: spending it all on this
thedon7075: reinvest it and make more from the ai bets
a1c4p0ne: I'll leave 1500 to play with
fii___: we are so close to having natural language AI art customization
by that I mean something like "this is a picture of scene A, this is a picture of object B (which may or may not have a clean background), put object B in scene A in a specific position relative to some object in A (eg. this stack of bricks floating 90% of the way up that tower)"
fii___: without having to do any sort of prompt hacking
fii___: and without having to manually position the objects, you should be able to just reference where you want it to be in scene A in pure natural language
fii___: proper multimodal LLM~~
.histic: https://x.com/Shawnryan96/status/1912000907681681578
.wolfnacht: I just saw the same post 2 minutes ago while browsing reddit, from r/bard
_cloudost: You gotta subscription to Kling Premium to use their latest version
_cloudost: Costs $65.72901
_cloudost: A month
_cloudost:
_cloudost: GPT-5 WILL come out first then it will be replaced with GPT 4.9 a week later
wellmeaningalien: 4.2*
.wolfnacht: lmao, why they are like this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/s/LX9yqtx8UP
memlaswaif: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/s/fKqTKxxyv9
memlaswaif: imagine literally calling for the death of people and disagreeing with it as a valid reason to report
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spicy.lemonade: bro whyere has cursor been
spicy.lemonade: all my life
zoermena: So I’ve heard
zoermena: Homo mentioned, when can I get my femboys
zoermena: I think everyone has access using Google ai studio
theaiguy69420_89814: Do not tell me you only downloaded it now...
theaiguy69420_89814: Windsurf is even better, but more expensive
spicy.lemonade: i did
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: 2 days of possible work
spicy.lemonade: gone
theaiguy69420_89814: wdym
spicy.lemonade: this wouldve taken me 2 days
spicy.lemonade: with llm
spicy.lemonade: didnt know cursor was this good
theaiguy69420_89814: its insanely good
theaiguy69420_89814: i use it for every new projecct
theaiguy69420_89814: but for old projects sometimes re-inserting into cursor screws things up
spicy.lemonade: havent typoed a single line of code 😭
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah that's normal
theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf is like cursor but really heavy on agentic stuff
theaiguy69420_89814: so its more expensive
spicy.lemonade: ah
theaiguy69420_89814: cursor limits token outputs automatically
theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf does no such thing
theaiguy69420_89814: also cursor updates almost every other day
theaiguy69420_89814: so keep an eye out
zoermena: 2 things I recommend constantly cursor and deep research
_cloudost: Barely anyone here has access to Veo 2
zoermena: Yesterday I showed it to a consulting firm and a tv presenter in the event I was invited
zoermena: I do for some reason or at least did
theaiguy69420_89814: its funny, the other week i asked deep research for a business idea; since then i have been implementing all of the freelance tasks via cursor lol
theaiguy69420_89814: the potential to be productive rn is ridiculous
zoermena: Deep research is broken, I want to start using cursor
theaiguy69420_89814: try windsurf lmk how it is
theaiguy69420_89814: i've only seen videos
zoermena: First I need to find something I could code
zoermena: Rn idk if I need to use that
zoermena:
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metaldragon01: I don't think it matters tbh
metaldragon01: We can't out build them
_3sphere: China has the ability to actually build shit
_3sphere: and a disregard for IP laws that leaves them free to build anything
zoermena: That’s a different discussion though unless you want to talk about that. I’m overall referring to fusion as a universal technology for everyone.
_3sphere: This should terrify anyond who thinks their AGI progress is dangerous
_3sphere: Cloudo crashing out
metaldragon01: The world will figure it out
metaldragon01: I'm not concerned with China winning tbh. It's all the same in the end
zoermena: Mostly same
_3sphere: tbh I still don't really understand what the main barrier to fusion is
_3sphere: Is it manufacturing or the blueprints
xskydragon0: That's complicated. AI is something that not many ppl fully understand correctly. The progress can be a little dark
_3sphere: Fusion power generation, not AI
himekokatagiri: is her hair gene edited to be like that
_3sphere: Himeko hi
himekokatagiri: hi 3sphere
fractalcomputer: The finitude of the knowledge of man and the futility of his attempts to understand the cosmos.
_3sphere: Shit's fluorescent
fractalcomputer: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, etc.
_3sphere: meh, I think Lovecraft was too dramatic about it
_3sphere: Knowledge beyond comprehension is noise and frustrating at worst, not madness-inducing
.wolfnacht: Idk really, but that's just how fantasy goes, same use to be in anime or back in pokemon where people had different colored hairs.
_3sphere: The answer is a dunking of rgb(30,255,0)
_3sphere: she's not real
fractalcomputer: Oh but the eldritch knowledge is *horribly* comprehensible—that ephemeral moment of crystal clear clarity is enough to submerge your hastily built sandcastle of a worldview beneath the waves of a black ocean of sweet ignorance.
zonchao: https://x.com/daaniyaan/status/1916826584469692545
fractalcomputer: Is the "Truth" something one wants to know?
gamerbath: there's a giant power outage? I read that the entirety of portugal and half of spain has lost power
gamerbath: along with small parts of france and andorra
gamerbath: apparently due to extreme temperature oscillations?
gamerbath: will be fun to watch a short youtube documentary on this in a week
_3sphere: true
.wolfnacht: *europeans when they have to live one day without electricity*
.wolfnacht: btw i wanna see how r/ufo and r/aliens is gonna connect this to plasma orbs and ayy's
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k9t1f5/spain_and_portugal_hit_by_massive_power_outage/
himekokatagiri: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
fractalcomputer: What match is a blaster to mind-shattering revelations?
himekokatagiri: You can always drink to forget...
himekokatagiri: ...and you can always shoot first, ask questions later.
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spicy.lemonade: why are you being contrarian for no reason lol
spicy.lemonade: we are talking about scifi
spicy.lemonade: again by the same token
spicy.lemonade: "turn the whole sun into fuel"
spicy.lemonade: is as make believe
spicy.lemonade: if you phrase it that way
spicy.lemonade: davinci's planes are to modern planes what our warp drives are to whatever ftl machine we create in future
futurist_wizard: In one line you are talking about fantasy sci-fi, in another you are trying to induce practicality of which for warp drive there is none
spicy.lemonade: what?
spicy.lemonade: again by the same token a dyson sphere has no practicality
futurist_wizard: No? Dyson swarm is for energy? Warp drive is for something..
_3sphere: I thought there was a new metric that uses less fuel than one jupiter
spicy.lemonade: an ant cant possibly wonder why we need a plane
_3sphere: And most of that is for the fixed spacetime warping structure and not consumed afaict
spicy.lemonade: we could need interstellar travel for various thingd
spicy.lemonade: idk
futurist_wizard: We wouldn't
spicy.lemonade: but it seems very usefull to travel across planets in short time
spicy.lemonade: why?
trent_k: My wife likes watching horny animes and I keep seeing ads for them on the TV now because we share 1 account on there lol
spicy.lemonade: we only have like what
spicy.lemonade: 2 plannets we can live on
spicy.lemonade: reliably
_3sphere: I'll be in the corner mumbling incomprehensibly into a VR set ☠️
spicy.lemonade: yeah
futurist_wizard: Because even at the most generous energy requirements of warp drive it doesn't make any economical sense
_3sphere: I believe in wormholes much more than warp drive
spicy.lemonade: why are you dying on this hill bro😭
spicy.lemonade: we will have a need for interstellar travel
futurist_wizard: Wormholes have the same issue needing exotic matter
_3sphere: Wormholes are stable if you can get the wackass negative energy goop for it
spicy.lemonade: wormholes exist today
spicy.lemonade: wdym
spicy.lemonade: 😭
_3sphere: No they don't?
spicy.lemonade: blackholes
_3sphere: None have been seen nor predicted
futurist_wizard: Lol
_3sphere: Black holes are not wormholes
spicy.lemonade: they have them inside
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hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: SamA is in the discord and he heard are plees
maintcrew: we are so barack
hey1_1hey: "Change the restrictions. NOW!"
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: Pliny is prob already trying to crack this.
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Guys?
trent_k: pliny is a word im trying to stop saying
joaoluz19: This isn't dall-e right?
hey1_1hey: NOOOOO
hey1_1hey: Brother he got cooked
clevermoniker: I tested it, ITS TRUE!! ||<:bingus:1136264105800515644> fell again?||
trent_k: go rub it in their face by doing it
trent_k: post results now
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hey1_1hey: 100%
spicy.lemonade: ill get banned
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: fs
maintcrew: can anybody make it generate a women without big boobs
maintcrew: sora only generates big boobs
literallyvarane:
hey1_1hey: Anyone who uses the term "AIBro" is clinically insane
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Why are they all girls from Overlord bro
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: will they even notice
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: if i post ai art
spicy.lemonade: they wont
spicy.lemonade: LOL
spicy.lemonade: im just not gonna admit it
hey1_1hey: I read this as "Elederly Singapore autistic culture" and almost spat my drink out
clevermoniker: because its a good anime i guess? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
hikukomoru: I'll whore myself out to the Basilisk 🙏
hey1_1hey: OOGA FUCKING BOOGA
wellmeaningalien: this looks hella dall-e
trent_k: # help needed
show the best results you can, i will repost them in the r/artisthate discord to get the AI doomers seething
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.wolfnacht: kys
alejandrozarzuelo: You are such a bother to be around
This is just a personal opinion, noone asked for this, I am just making a statement
.wolfnacht: someone invite a reminder bot
memlaswaif: deepseek agi 2026 then
fractalcomputer: Alejandro, the same could be said of many of your opinions that you have very vocally announced here.
alejandrozarzuelo: Certainly
fractalcomputer: Try not to shoot yourself in the foot.
.wolfnacht: can i get the full link to paper ?
.wolfnacht: nvm
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't see why this is shooting myself in the foot
I find your attitude needlessly confrontational and extremely rude, as you not just disagree, you belittle and in certain cases even insult others for having opinions you disagree
You could just have said: I don't think that 2029 the field will advance to any significant degree towards AGI
But no, you HAD to say it that way, it makes every conversation you take part in unpleasant
spicy.lemonade:
theaiguy69420_89814: Guys we're all just talking about AI here.. alright?
theaiguy69420_89814: Relax
spicy.lemonade: Kurzweil was right
theaiguy69420_89814: What's the variant?
spicy.lemonade: Basically you interact with the system for 24 hours
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: The techno grinch
spicy.lemonade: They say agi full
fractalcomputer: They're citing Yudkowsky as one of their sources on an intelligence feedback loop.
spicy.lemonade: By 2030
spicy.lemonade: I think that’s the date we should hold
theaiguy69420_89814: 24hours... In what context?
theaiguy69420_89814: AI waifu?
spicy.lemonade: Longer turning test tests more
spicy.lemonade: Yes
theaiguy69420_89814: https://humanornot.so/
theaiguy69420_89814: This ^ has been solved since 4o
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: More like a her like system with genuine memory
spicy.lemonade: Continuous learning
spicy.lemonade: Etc
spicy.lemonade: Back and fourth
spicy.lemonade: Not just promoting
spicy.lemonade: Prompting
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm confused, how does the human not know from the start that it's an AI?
spicy.lemonade: Might even prompt you
spicy.lemonade: They aren’t told
spicy.lemonade: The human is also behind a computer
theaiguy69420_89814: But what's the context? Some sort of 90 day finance situation?
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alejandrozarzuelo: brazil had 10 MILLION less people than they expected
zonchao: I think <@688807313015963693> and <@749514473303179358> know the most random shit about everything
archon.e: Yeah, here they are delaying census due to stupid political reasons
alejandrozarzuelo: how can you "lose" 10 million people
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
hikukomoru: It's the autism
archon.e: please no name calling
alejandrozarzuelo: im not autistic
archon.e: let people be people
fractalcomputer: That is called general acculturation.
fractalcomputer: God forbid men *know* things in this day and age where information is *freely* available *on demand* **at all times**.
zonchao: they invaded us /s (maybe 👀 )
archon.e: I really wish we can just know things without googling
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, i am very familiar with demography, so i know quite a bit about that since i read a lot of papers and research about it
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
alejandrozarzuelo: that is all
hikukomoru: Are you talking about Brasil
archon.e: direct stream of information to your brian. would boost my IQ by 20 points
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
hikukomoru: "brian" 🥀
abundantliving_: https://x.com/Yampeleg/status/1911110715043164491
archon.e: Need neuralinks
hikukomoru: They all moved here
fuhulootogan: how high is your IQ
alejandrozarzuelo: brasil expected to have 10m more people than it ended up having in the last census
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058
a1c4p0ne:
archon.e: u tell me
archon.e: i never took a test
alejandrozarzuelo: no, it was SPECIFICALLY because of fertility rates
hikukomoru: They can keep moving here
Brasilian girls are real baddies
fuhulootogan: nice teeth
fuhulootogan: he brushes
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
alejandrozarzuelo: the mexican goverment in their official censuses literally say that "there is no possibility that our fertility rate falls below 2.0, so all estimations are based on that"
they are at 1.45
like wtf, and you give this GARBAGE of data to the United Nations'???
fractalcomputer: All applied mathematicians, ethicists and other people that are generally consider stulted and ignorant - by people who happen to agree with me - should be executed on the spot.
fuhulootogan: how old are you
archon.e: 32
ailoveyoom: You don't name your brain? Assuming you have one.
alejandrozarzuelo: your pfp is you?
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3ds0662: not full o3
3ds0662: the true o3 high used in end of december was never released to public
3ds0662: costs too much
spicy.lemonade: thats not dfistilled
spicy.lemonade: they just pushed it to the max compute
spicy.lemonade: for a showcase
spicy.lemonade: like any company would
3ds0662: that is considered o3 high
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: our high isnt their high
3ds0662: thats not the o3 high released to public
3ds0662: it should be
spicy.lemonade: not really
3ds0662: but anyways doesnt matter
spicy.lemonade: google has 2.5 they can push to max
3ds0662: as long as gpt -5 isnt shit
spicy.lemonade: but they wont drop
spicy.lemonade: o3 last december is most liekely o3 pro
3ds0662: hmm
3ds0662: nahhh i think the costs went way above 200$
3ds0662: for full o3 high
spicy.lemonade: only for arc agi
spicy.lemonade: but that was difference between low 70s and 90%
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: youre only thinking about arc agi
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 isnt even good at arc agi
spicy.lemonade: current o3 mogs
3ds0662: yeah true
3ds0662: but arc agi is fair
3ds0662: all benchmarks are
3ds0662: people point out the failures of these models all the time on twitter
3ds0662: 100xing data efficiency sounds like an insane task for the next wave ai models
3ds0662: said during the gpt-4.5 podcast
alejandrozarzuelo: spicy
alejandrozarzuelo: you said
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 drop
alejandrozarzuelo: this week
alejandrozarzuelo: well... its friday afternoon in china
spicy.lemonade: 😭 i guess they delayed
spicy.lemonade: bro dont look at me
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himekokatagiri: he does see that
himekokatagiri: but he needs the cash now
himekokatagiri: idk
alejandrozarzuelo: not necessarily
alejandrozarzuelo: also he doesnt like that
st.sioux: he wants a specific demographic's birth rates to go up, not others
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the demographic situation of humanity is certainly very unstable
destrucules: Global fertility is rapidly declining
alejandrozarzuelo: thanks to a recent wave of access to the internet and exposure to liberating ideology, places like latin america, southeast asia and india are all cratering in their fertility, africa's high fertility persistence comes from their backwardness and lack of freedom
_cloudost: in the future Musk will make it mandatory for every citizen above 18 to have artificial ovaries so he can impregnate all citizens with his DNA
alejandrozarzuelo: female freedom and social wellbeing are inextricably linked to low fertility rates
alejandrozarzuelo: if we leave humanity to its own devices, no singularity or any technology beyonf 2025 one available in the forseeable future, our numbers will plummet very fast
alejandrozarzuelo: previous consensuses on the fertility societies converge have been lowered, and its hard to make a case for that number to be above 1.5, to have LEV or to join the hivemind are a matter of existential necessity for the human race, not just a matter of convenience
hikukomoru: Good
There's already too many people
retrerox: We need the singularity pope
fractalcomputer:
alejandrozarzuelo: i also like to dine with my friends all of us on the same side of a ridiculously long table so we have the hardest time talking to each other
fractalcomputer: It makes for incredible perspective.
st.sioux: a very singular perspective
hikukomoru: Ray Kurz
_cloudost: as an antinatalist I dont mind.
_cloudost: all humans should be replaced with artificial life cuz humans are messing and destroying this world
himekokatagiri: but if we can't have sex aren't we gonna lose our mind!!!
himekokatagiri: I don't wanna die 😨
3ds0662: wow deepseeks been silent
3ds0662: no R2 release
3ds0662: even though they released deepseek v3 base model last month
3ds0662: I guess o3 and gemini 2.5 pro level is harder to crack than expected
3ds0662: ill give them another month
777agical: they said r2 april/may timeframe
3ds0662: its already the end of april
777agical: and
3ds0662: and may is in like 1-2 weeks
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: may is inclusive
3ds0662: deepseeks going to be eclipsed by gpt-5 release if they hold out
777agical: something coming out later might eclipse something coming out sooner <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
and gpt5 won't be open sourced
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvdrCPr3gDQ
himekokatagiri: deepseek team sailing to the high seas to get their model done in time
_cloudost: https://x.com/ViduAI_official/status/1914665500824502522
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hey1_1hey: Me when heart disease
alejandrozarzuelo: the yearly car production rate is 100m units
alejandrozarzuelo: and android production can leverage that industry
futurist_wizard: The global humanoid robot count is projected to be 40,000 by 2030
alejandrozarzuelo: the growth will be much faster earlier on and will slow down significantly once it cannot be absorbed into the current supply chains
alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt make sense
alejandrozarzuelo: also please use the word android
futurist_wizard: Well damn, you need to kick down the doors to Morgan Stanley and show them what's what
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, they are an old school investment conglomerate who also were blisfully ignorant to AI until it became big and even now they dont expect it to cause mass unemployment soon
alejandrozarzuelo: they also underestimated the internet
alejandrozarzuelo: they are a conservative group that expects the status quo to continue
alejandrozarzuelo: the idea that android production will follow software logic is faulty
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> oh so you survived the blackout
hikukomoru: Unfortunate
hey1_1hey: I am not too sure what you are on about Komoru, we were litterly already planning you a closed casket funereal
hikukomoru: This blackout cost me so much money
hikukomoru: I have months worth of cat food now
hikukomoru: And toilet paper
hey1_1hey: Why did you go an panic buy bruh, it was just shitty infrustructure
hikukomoru: Better to be safe than sorry
hey1_1hey: I guess, I wouldn't go and buy MONTHS worth of stuff tho yanno, make a few weeks sure but hey ho
futurist_wizard: I mean it's not just them, if you can cite someone who's expecting millions by 2030 that'd be interesting
sarik0497: Given our current, limited knowledge of how intelligent beings operate, it's the only thing we can really hypothesize.
It's the same with trying to make up a new color, or trying to comprehend something like the Universe potentially being limitless; We can't due to how limited our brains really are.
alejandrozarzuelo: i do not know when adroids will become economically viable
alejandrozarzuelo: i just know that growth will be very fast at first and then much slower
alejandrozarzuelo: like, from 10k to 10m in 5 years
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: but growth afer much slow
sarik0497: Maybe the alien species is an ASI, waiting for its sibling to be born?
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Don't you think it's worrying if nobody else thinks similarly
alejandrozarzuelo: no, its better this way
futurist_wizard: Even local schizo david shapiro doesn't think that
alejandrozarzuelo: he cant think outside of software logic
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that his prediction for when we will get 10b androids is accurate, but the curve wont look like he thinks
alejandrozarzuelo: because this is not software
alejandrozarzuelo: i am very familiar with the solar panel production story
alejandrozarzuelo: and they had to start from nearly zero
alejandrozarzuelo: meanwhile this can leverage car production to its benefit
alejandrozarzuelo: they are simply different growth curves
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wellmeaningalien: brooooo
wellmeaningalien: most windows laptop manufacturers are still making like macbook price laptops with 8gb ram
wellmeaningalien: its crazy
wellmeaningalien: ☝️
st.sioux: oh yea ur right they start at 16gb
st.sioux: finally
st.sioux: lmao
wellmeaningalien: ig u can get like 16gb ram laptops at a reasonable price if u trade it off for a bad CPU
retrerox: Buying apple is so bad
retrerox: acc
st.sioux: macbooks are perfect laptops
st.sioux: honestly
st.sioux: idk about desktops
wellmeaningalien: macbooks are great laptops macos is absolute ass (for me)
wellmeaningalien: best case is macbook with asahi linux
zonchao: the new air is perfect
retrerox: Apple is just overpriced crap
retrerox: xd
.histic: i agree.
just get some refurbished one, an older model, or just an air if you're on a budget.
but if you're a gamer or someone that use VMs i would't recommend it.
.histic: if you don't care about portability, mac minis are far more performant and cheaper than airs too.
aero447: 😐
wellmeaningalien: with asahi linux and wine you can get a pretty damn well and working gaming experience
.histic: that's some real gaymer stuff right there
.histic: a real gaymer plays on a ti-84 calculator too.
that reminds me of when i emulated mario on a raspberry pi
retrerox:
hikukomoru: What are you making that face for
bob082957: IT but developer will be not using Windows
dean_martin: On LEV: Will immortality make it so time doesn’t feel faster as you age? Or will this just cause people who are thousands of years old to feel like time is moving faster
wellmeaningalien: waddup huzz
wellmeaningalien: the passage of time is totally relative it could be however that your conception of time will get shorter and shorter the more you live
wellmeaningalien: or perhaps you'll lose it entirely
wellmeaningalien: assuming you're still a vanilla human
dean_martin: I’m just saying is it because humans are mortal that as people age time feels faster
wellmeaningalien: no idea
wellmeaningalien: 😺
wellmeaningalien: but usually the way you think about it comparing your lived experiences to your current experience
wellmeaningalien: i dont think its a question of mortality alone
zoermena: Richest Venezuelan
zoermena: 🙏
st.sioux: https://www.yahoo.com/news/tech-ceo-charged-fraud-saying-150139101.html
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spicy.lemonade: 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case if you sleep in the afternoon its easy to fix tht
alejandrozarzuelo: you just have to gradually stay awake for a little bit longer every day
spicy.lemonade: I do but then I stay up late slowly and slowly then it resets
alejandrozarzuelo: say now you fall asleep at 14h
spicy.lemonade: Even stayed up all day once to reset
alejandrozarzuelo: tomorrow fall asleep at 15
spicy.lemonade: Only lasted 3 days
alejandrozarzuelo: and so on
alejandrozarzuelo: do it slowly
alejandrozarzuelo: its better
plouwg: And just like that, you fixed their insomnia
spicy.lemonade: 💀
hey1_1hey: Chatgpt sycophant really be afirming anything these days
okbut: Didn't they patch this yesterday
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoru
himekokatagiri: Are you alive
hey1_1hey: Aperntly not
okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
okbut:
brain4brain: GPT-4o vs redacted-llm
`Make an image of an flying island in the sky with a luxury modern house`
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: gpt one looks better, bcz all that haze makes it look dreamy
brain4brain: Real
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-jeff-bridges-the-dude-fist-pump-yeah-gif-11253884
wolf3404: <@439829942310666250> chatgpt is retarded
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/grok/status/1916970399725981954
popsiclejohnithan:
hey1_1hey: Chatgpt is so misaligned holy shit. I was installing endeavourOS on my pc by side booting it and it made me deviate from the tutorial I was following and once I said did everything it said and it started altering my drive it said "good job, you just bricked your pc 💀. Nah jk" had me shitting bricks in the first half of that sentence
.wolfnacht: I found a nice sub today
https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleIntelligenceFail/
ailoveyoom: It's called humor 😈
ailoveyoom: Read this msg again a few days later and you'll laugh ✌️
brain4brain: I got three AI unemployment propaganda in a row, the AGI effect is here, the singularity will begin soon
zonchao: https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1917123587019887048 insane aura
hey1_1hey: Oh it actually just did <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
hey1_1hey: I didn't need windows anyway <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zonchao: <a:LETSFUCKINGO:944329536756146186>
Carl-bot#1536:
okbut: Mfs are terrified of integer model names
zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917103576062509470 big if true, models treating msm sources as gospel is tiring
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ldj: The current architecture of Sora is mostly still just transformer, more specifically called diffusion-transformer, and future omnimodal models like GPT-5o might just end up incorporating video/world model generation natively too.
But yes I think this is basically all you need, maybe with a few relatively small tweaks needed at most.
zonchao: xAI is also working on video gen/world models but we dont know what they are cooking
zonchao: BFL as well
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
- OpenAI open source model currently planned for Mid-June
- They plan for it to be competitive or better than any existing open source model available today.
- Desire to start doing more consistent open source releases and not just some one-time thing.
- In meeting with open-source devs and Sama, most in the meeting agreed that atleast one version being around 70B - 200B size would be optimal for this main first model.
- A base model might be released too instead of just the post-trained reasoning model.
gamerbath: so in like 2 months 🔥 🔥 🔥
.0xunkn0wn: damnn
popsiclejohnithan: This will most likely be GPT-5 right?
ldj: no lol
popsiclejohnithan: Oh.
ldj: I'm pretty confident that GPT-5 won't be getting open sourced
popsiclejohnithan: Imagine lol.
hikukomoru: Like ever?
ldj: Maybe eventually at some point
ldj: but I think probably not at launch
popsiclejohnithan: Probs when it is out of date.
popsiclejohnithan: Or not state of the art that is.
spicy.lemonade: Unserious😭
popsiclejohnithan: I'm dumb.
spicy.lemonade: Is this before or after
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5
metaldragon01: Hopefully after or around the same time
hey1_1hey: How are they going to release gpt 5 after they released 4.5 and then deprecated it a month later and then release 5 😭
ldj: I think the OSS model prob coming before GPT-5.
a1c4p0ne: Gemini just got the last badge all 8 gyms completed
clevermoniker: something from deepseek, maybe next week, if not probably first half of next month
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: Dev is gonna do a rerun
spicy.lemonade: August launch it is
spicy.lemonade: It beat game?
a1c4p0ne: Yeah
trey6033: No, it has to beat the elite 4 or whatever
a1c4p0ne: Elite 4 and champion next
bob082957: I want some day to write in chat “Ok They figured it out now is becoming serious” exemple the hallucinations
okbut: What would the open-source model be? Inb4 davinci
ldj: It would be a new reasoning model
ldj: Not an existing model
ldj: But it'd probably be an open source specific model series
ldj: similar to how Google makes the gemma models
ldj: but they plan for this open source model to be better than any existing open source model
zonchao: lmao
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futurist_wizard: All dinosaur dna is gone
spicy.lemonade: not in chickens
futurist_wizard: British women are very unattractive
spicy.lemonade: and bone
retrerox: Bri'ish
aero447: They are orange.
aero447: FSR.
hikukomoru: Yes they are
retrerox: Donald trump its a british woman then?
futurist_wizard: Transitioned earlier in life
retrerox: A visionary since early in his life
hikukomoru: Dont even have moustaches like Portuguese women
futurist_wizard: Hollywood loves british actors for some reason
aero447: Male Brits are hot.
aero447: That's why.
retrerox: meh 50 50
hikukomoru: Exotic (I don’t really get it)
futurist_wizard: We have the correct accents
hikukomoru: Also Americans love those gross british accents
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-gif-4967335
aero447: Argue with the wall.
hikukomoru: Are you gay
Is everyone here a homosexual
aero447: SMDH.
retrerox: Brit teets are just a turn off
futurist_wizard: I remember a girl finding out tom hardy was 5'8 and then she didn't like him anymore
aero447: I am simply stating what an attractive man looks like.
retrerox: Nice AI related topic guys
hikukomoru: Poor manlets
futurist_wizard: I am exotic because i have dutch british genes
hikukomoru: No one talks about AI here
Only gay sex and autism
retrerox: I'm sure AI will improve brits enough
memlaswaif: U could have described what u don't look like
aero447: Olando Bloom, Henry Cavill, Cilian Murphy etc.
retrerox: Olando bloom
aero447: LMFAO.
futurist_wizard: I look a bit like james Sunderland
retrerox: I thought Orlando bloom was older
retrerox: Since i remember hearing bout him since i was a kid
hikukomoru: Who tf is that
retrerox: orlando bloom is married with Katy perry? Lol
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spicy.lemonade: She would've said its real
spicy.lemonade: Lol
wellmeaningalien: u would never guess this is ai
spicy.lemonade: Heck if you asked her 1 week ago
wellmeaningalien: even i couldnt if u just threw these pictures around like that
spicy.lemonade: She would have said its real
alejandrozarzuelo: the wording on the first looks eeerily inconsistent
wellmeaningalien: ur just saying that cause u know its AI
_cloudost: Artists were always misrable even before AI image generators, before AI they used to kill each other over copying their own art styles, they dont understand that humans get inspired by other huumans
alejandrozarzuelo: if you look CLOSELY you can tell
spicy.lemonade: Makes it more human
spicy.lemonade: No you cant
spicy.lemonade: 😭
wellmeaningalien: bro is making shi up
spicy.lemonade: Tell where
spicy.lemonade: Its only bc you already know its ai
alejandrozarzuelo: the R in Cartman looks off
spicy.lemonade: You're imagining errors
_cloudost: once AI gets banned the artists will start killing each other again
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: A human could've wrote that
wellmeaningalien: the only way i could spot this is ai is that the eye gap is sort of drawn inconsistently to the way it is drawn in the show
spicy.lemonade: All of this
alejandrozarzuelo: look at the negative inside
spicy.lemonade: Can be attributed to human error
wellmeaningalien: professionally made shows dont have much human error
alejandrozarzuelo: sure
wellmeaningalien: but if this was a regular online artist sure
spicy.lemonade: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: That's what I mean
alejandrozarzuelo: it looks like either a single human who isnt a professional would do
futurist_wizard: thats in south park characters
futurist_wizard: i checked
spicy.lemonade: All of the current errors can be attributed to human error
wellmeaningalien: yah but its more of a uniform curve
_cloudost: The same people are actively commiting terrorist activities on tesla owners, poor owners of tesla cars have nothing to do with Musk
wellmeaningalien: whereas this one contorts a bit
alejandrozarzuelo: but like, not a proffessional's human error, like an artist amateur error
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, I am pretty sure that by the end of the year it will be literally impossible to tell
brain4brain: Now that I see some, I’ve built a new world model to detect these <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
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futurist_wizard: Literally Pascal's wager
sarik0497: AI assistants for smaller coding tasks become common by 2023.
Chip war between the U.S. and China intensifies due to AI, and AI-designed chips become a thing between 2022-24.
The AI model in 2022 makes “GPT-3 look like GPT-1” in terms of compute and multimodal pre-training (around a 100 times jump), which was only off by around 4 months.
Hype fades in 2024, with the “lonely person with chatbot” stereotype becoming common.
These are just a few, and I can’t really talk about 2025-26 stuff as we aren’t there yet.
spicy.lemonade: Compute flops, market attention, ai boom via transformer model llm
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/c_valenzuelab/status/1914694666642956345
metaldragon01: Ai has won over the oscars
metaldragon01: Officially accepted as art
futurist_wizard: Hollywood can go fuck themselves
metaldragon01: Ehh debatable but I understand the angle
sarik0497: One thing he likely got wildly wrong was VR. He predicted “VR sales 10x higher by 2026; cheap headsets improve sharply.”, so unless VR makes a huge return this year, it seems implausible.
metaldragon01: Vr absolutely will take off alongside AR. It's just a matter of when
zoermena:
metaldragon01: Considering hardware and fidelity....I'd guess in no more than 5 years due to cost.
zoermena: I’ve tried Apple Vision Pro, it’s black mirror level tech
fractalcomputer: Suppose these are precise enough to be meaningful predictions. Does that give any credence to their other claims—their past or current ones?
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: lmao thats all i can see
alejandrozarzuelo: the lonely person with a chatbot one didnt become true
alejandrozarzuelo: everuone i know uses them
zoermena: The eyes feature is overhyped in the ad it’s barely visible in real life actually, also when you see other people merging into your environment when you are immersed say in a national park it still looks a little funky
futurist_wizard: I'd rather be lonely than use a chatbot
shirethedreamer: yeah its a bit goofy right now
but i think they are taking it in the right direction
its just that the tech just needs a couple more years of maturing
futurist_wizard: I wouldn't mind vocally talking to future AI though, as that would be funny
zoermena: Albeit the other features are just way to good, have you tried it? It’s like Star Trek I swear <:startrek:1334027709541777460>
shirethedreamer: didnt try them yet
but just judging from the other vr glasses i tried over the years its advancing way faster than i thought
zoermena: If I had the money I would buy one right now. My favorite feature I think is the spatial photos and videos. I would like to remember deceased SOs in that format.
himekokatagiri: anyone using AI for hair pomade tips 😭
zoermena: I’ve thought of it but I haven’t, I suck at combing my hair so I just use my body moisturizer.
himekokatagiri: yeah usually I just end up with the dumb & dumber hair
himekokatagiri: I'm growing it out so I can do a pompadour
zonchao: a step in the right direction but still "the more a human played a role in a film's creation, the better"
trojan09205: I like my meta raybans a lot
himekokatagiri: the buddy holly glasses?
trojan09205: Lol wat
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/buddy-holly-the-crickets-headbang-oh-boy-ed-sullivan-show-gif-24774095
himekokatagiri: this guy
trojan09205: Theyre wayfarer style transitional sunglasses with cameras microphone and speakers and a llama model
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/roy-orbison-guitar-black-and-white-gif-13829619
trojan09205: Yeah broo
trojan09205: Kind of looks like that
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a1c4p0ne: Pro users first
spicy.lemonade: we are getting o3 and o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: plus users likeely getting one of them
a1c4p0ne: Prob just o4 mini for plus users
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini would still crush 2,5
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see on Thursday
theaiguy69420_89814: OpenAI is too stingy on their pricing tho
a1c4p0ne: I wanna see o3 play Pokémon
_cloudost: I do not allow this, o3 should only be for pro users
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: 1 prompt of o3 costs $0.5 million dollars, OpenAI can't afford to give all plus users o3 they will go bankrupt
spicy.lemonade: thyey probably got it cheaper
cmtclx: i saw this on sora yesterday
cmtclx: nice creation
cmtclx: i liked it
cmtclx: it was in my front page/feed xd
cmtclx: also about the image.. anyone wanna play minecraft or something :/
cmtclx: im bored and like was talking with gpt just a few mins ago
a1c4p0ne:
theaiguy69420_89814: lol
abundantliving_: https://x.com/Zai_org/status/1911947665727959058
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912250725586870396
literallyvarane: Very deeply skeptical they’ve reached it tbh.
literallyvarane: Oh wait level is just academic contribution, not organizational contribution or w/e they call it.
.histic: they probably reached their own minimum baseline for it, which may be subjective.
.histic: like to what extent can it actually innovate.
.histic: i guess we will see
literallyvarane: Idk, it’s *possible* one of these labs has a model that can make one-off contributions? But I think there’s a massive difference between Google’s models finding mathematical optimizations which are *technically* new innovations, and something that’s universally, consistently, innovative.
metaldragon01: Reports are they've reached level 4
metaldragon01: I see no reason why they couldn't have reached it with how things are scaling
literallyvarane: If the bar is just “discover anything humans haven’t found” that’s already been done.
metaldragon01: Also have said the o series is now #1 in competitive coding
metaldragon01: If the math is keeping pace with coding you'd expect level 4 around now
literallyvarane: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/discovering-novel-algorithms-with-alphatensor/
literallyvarane: Like narrow scope ‘innovation’ by AI has been a thing since at least 22
metaldragon01: I agree. I assume they mean more reliably?
metaldragon01: Like gpt 3 could technically help with code....
literallyvarane: If they have something that can find new math *and* find new biology for example, that’s a much more compelling argument.
literallyvarane: I don’t view coding as innovation in itself tbh.
literallyvarane: Like the world’s #1 coder isn’t *inventing* anything. There’s no new knowledge they’re adding to the corpus.
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futurist_wizard: I do have that
hikukomoru: Me too
_3sphere: I don't even daydream I just ruminate 😭
hey1_1hey: I live in the present for the most part which is nice but sometimes my mind wonders for a good 2-3 mins and I imagine myself doing things in my head but I am not actually doing them in real life
_3sphere: Well I do but it's a relatively small proportion
futurist_wizard: The day dreaming literally almost never stops
futurist_wizard: Its only tamed by adhd drugs
.wolfnacht: i used to daydream alot back in covid, those were the days..
_3sphere: Meth makes the brain stfu ✍️
futurist_wizard: Adhd drugs almost make me feel like a normal person
hey1_1hey: I dont think I have a single memory from 2020-2023 ish
_3sphere: I have many
hey1_1hey: I remember playing minecraft with my friend on a server we made, then I remember drawing a hand... then thats about it
_3sphere: Is like the computer became a primitive Matrix
hikukomoru: My memories reset every day after going to bed
hikukomoru: I forget the previous day
hey1_1hey: I got amphatasia meanwhile you got amnesia bruh
futurist_wizard: I have bad brain fog
.wolfnacht: these days i just take the cards with a different lore and bind them together in a different universe....with in my own lore. in a group and that's much more fun
zonchao: do you take addy?
.wolfnacht: the ADHD just made me worse these days with focusing on anything
futurist_wizard: The problem with elvanse is it gives me brain fog
futurist_wizard: But it makes it so i can focus on tings
futurist_wizard: And just feel like i have way more energy
_3sphere: no
_3sphere: Just sleeping pills
hey1_1hey: If I had ADHD meds (menthliphenidate) I'd be a God among men I swear
hikukomoru: Yes I actually really do have a terrible memory
hikukomoru: It sucks
futurist_wizard: Im lucky i also naturally prone to being happy
hey1_1hey: My memory is pretty good its just I learn things at such an unbeleaibly slow pace
_3sphere: My memory is... ok? I don't remember shit at school though.
hey1_1hey: I take pride in the fact that I studied for the wrong exam and was the only one who passed in my class that one time 💪
hikukomoru: How many cards do you have saved
.wolfnacht: my short term memory is ass but there are things i would remember for years for long term
.wolfnacht: even with smallest details
hey1_1hey: Granted it was business and it was litterly just giving your opinion but hey-ho
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416
.wolfnacht: what if chub goes down one day ? that's why i've got an archive
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anathemaofmankind: Humans are generally better at a bunch of things more than computers and vice versa
.wolfnacht: The processed foods we consume daily is slop! bcz it's all processed by machines (and managed by humans) because someone's not working 15 hrs a day in bakery.
anathemaofmankind: So I suppose it's understandable that people back then thought art wasn't going to be automated.
Because computers don't posses "emotions"
anathemaofmankind: Also this is a weird thing to say when we can remember more than computers?
alejandrozarzuelo: We cannot remember billions of chess positions
Chess was solved by brute force, not organically like Go
anathemaofmankind: Doesn't AlphaZero use the same thing as Go?
anathemaofmankind: People who like AI art are "little piggies" now apparently
gamerbath: aside from that, he's right
gamerbath: looking at a hyperrealistic drawing made by a human is much cooler than looking at one from 4o, even if they look the same
gamerbath: but that's just art
trent_k: > STOP HAVING FUN <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845>
anathemaofmankind: One day, AI will become better than all programmers
anathemaofmankind: And then programmers will mald instead of artists
gamerbath: programming isn't an art form. I don't appreciate anything when I look at my code
anathemaofmankind: THIS CODE IS SOULLESS
trent_k: When us codecels get automated I'm gonna become a cop. I'll be shooting tear gas canisters at your mom's head while she's protesting in favor of commie bullshit like "I'm hungry and my teeth hurt"
trent_k: That's a skill issue then
.wolfnacht: MOST HUMANS ARE SOUL'LESS
anathemaofmankind: I wonder how long these people would continue to seethe
anathemaofmankind: They do realize it's not going away?
anathemaofmankind: No matter how much they bitch and whine about it
spicy.lemonade: "lets poison the data"
spicy.lemonade: they really think itl work
.wolfnacht: are Anti-AI bros gonna use five D's on AI bros, or AI bros gonna use it on Anti's ?
alejandrozarzuelo: why
alejandrozarzuelo: if you cannot know the difference
spicy.lemonade: doesnt look cooler but its cool to know it was made by hands
alejandrozarzuelo: then there is no difference except for the creator
gamerbath: yea but that's the difference
anathemaofmankind: What if anti AI discourse is just a psyop to distract normies from looking into AI weapons development like Palantir
alejandrozarzuelo: the creator is only one among the thousands who will appreciate or loathe a piece of art
anathemaofmankind: So instead of being like "OH NO THIS IS SKYNET", it's more like "Meh it's just slop not a big deal"
alejandrozarzuelo: personally I like that soon, not yet but soon, art will be out of the human labor force
alejandrozarzuelo: it will be an explosion in art
aero447: NO!
alejandrozarzuelo: heck, we are limited by the fact that we need to ask the AI for it, the real game changer will be when the AI does art autonomously by itdelf
aero447: Bad MichMach.
gamerbath: what would you appreciate more, a heartfelt handwritten letter from a close friend, or an identical letter generated instantly by an AI? You still recieve the same thing, but here the creator makes a big difference.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-lie-false-phony-misinformation-gif-12492198651992672686
alejandrozarzuelo: i cannot know the difference so i appreciate both equally
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.wolfnacht: hoping 2.5 flash thinking would be on par with sonnet-3.7 thinking
maintcrew: best vibes currently in order: grok 3, sonnet-3.5, gippity 4.5
.wolfnacht: and simple flash would be 4.5 preview
ai9708: that is because no model is "smart" yet
ai9708: but still cool it beats the other models in benchmarks
maintcrew: i really dont wanna get into the "they are just auto completers bro they dont think" rn
.wolfnacht: try it for writing stories, clearly better than anything else rn.
maintcrew: for sure but im not a stories writer guy
ai9708: well i dont think it is black and white like that
clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1185322173708128406/1354372307887587443/gary_2.png?ex=67e50d01&is=67e3bb81&hm=27af5b51cbe77420a29833cfec3a24e2c998660aa659b03a177ba1f0f3c63a0d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
sarik0497: Promise? <:WalidPray:800412164891476018>
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro global average 82%
a1c4p0ne: On live bench wow
spicy.lemonade: 6% jump
spicy.lemonade: nice
spicy.lemonade: 3.0 thinking wil be insane
spicy.lemonade: def comming this year
a1c4p0ne: 100% next?
spicy.lemonade: or 2.5 ultra
a1c4p0ne: Imagine 2.5 deep research
zoermena: I wish Gemini had a better UI
spicy.lemonade: i like it
maintcrew:
memlaswaif: don't show this to destrucules
sarik0497: Please tell me you told it to say that <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
fractalcomputer: Coal alert.
ldj: True lol
https://x.com/sama/status/1904921537884676398?s=46
sarik0497: AI nowadays makes me think of Data from Star Trek and that whole “Am I sentient?” scene in the courtroom.
zoermena: I will start praying for Sam Altman
sarik0497: If Sam Altman actually does what he claims, I shall personally walk up to him, grovel before him, and beg for forgiveness.
maintcrew:
maintcrew: bro wants a hit list 😭
.wolfnacht: give us O3 pro(high) to use for free atleast with 100 limits a day and then we'll think.
joaoluz19: How to not love this guy lol
sarik0497: Ngl, I did doubt OpenAI after 4.5. But no more.
spicy.lemonade: Never doubt openAI
joaoluz19: Cool, now Chinese image gen when
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/copy-paste-paste-copy-ctrl-c-ctrl-v-gif-12913156
hey1_1hey: I got 5 @s in this server
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
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futurist_wizard: Not a judgement
himekokatagiri: Not yet!!!
hey1_1hey: What does this say about me then. Since I mostly had girl friends <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Mmm yea I can see how I can seem boyish
_3sphere: You're a girl?
hey1_1hey: No hes a 43 year old man
hikukomoru: I thought I made it clear I'm a 50 year old bald divorced bulgarian cuckold?
.wolfnacht: u cannot rewire the biology, hence i found that cloning better humans is more ethical
wellmeaningalien: youre gay!
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
hey1_1hey: Bi, but sure. Lets go with that
wellmeaningalien: see
wellmeaningalien: spot on
hey1_1hey: I dont even act gay either. I am just autistic
himekokatagiri: I'm glad the people in this discord don't have a say in how scientific progress is conducted because jesus
.wolfnacht: girls in singularity sewer ? 😳
hikukomoru: Prolly trans or smth idk bruh
hey1_1hey: Nah big manly man innit 💪
hikukomoru: Figure yourself out cuz youre confusing me
hey1_1hey: Theres like 4 here bruh
hey1_1hey: I need ASI to do that
himekokatagiri: Every man has once dreamed of being cute
hey1_1hey: I barley understand myself
_3sphere: Once? ❌
hey1_1hey: I dont gotta dream aperntly
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648
hikukomoru: Awesome we're back to trans converstions on the Singularity server
hey1_1hey: Fuck
hikukomoru: Thanks Mushroom Man/Girl/Whatever
hey1_1hey: Its all the trans people running the show
.wolfnacht: Fractal incoming....
hey1_1hey: You started this
himekokatagiri: 🚬
hikukomoru: Fractal ban all transes immediately
hey1_1hey: Nah hes all tucked up into bed
hey1_1hey: prob
.wolfnacht: transhuman 😳 with 2000 implants
hey1_1hey: Fractal if you ban Komoru I'll give you a picture of my cute petite femboy hands
wellmeaningalien: Komoru arent you trans yourself
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
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spicy.lemonade: eh
alejandrozarzuelo: nah i dont think so, grok 3.5 wont be better than o3
spicy.lemonade: nothing google couldnt do
alejandrozarzuelo: sure but it is the best (or tied) model for math proofs now iirc
spicy.lemonade: performs worse than 2.5 on some subjects
spicy.lemonade: performs worse on aime
alejandrozarzuelo: hmm i see
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, yeah we are all waiting for r2
alejandrozarzuelo: i wonder what is taking them so long
spicy.lemonade: i think its more of a proof of concept model
spicy.lemonade: "if we train model on alot of lean itl get better at proofs"
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: deepseek doesn't do release schedules, they only release the model when it is ready
spicy.lemonade: leonardo devinci designed flying machines in 1487
spicy.lemonade: we achived flight 1903
spicy.lemonade: the principles were similar
spicy.lemonade: designs more or less the same
spicy.lemonade: 416 years appart
spicy.lemonade: we can apply the same to dyson sphere
spicy.lemonade: i believe we already have the general idea for most scifi things today
spicy.lemonade: and they will exist
spicy.lemonade: we just have a flawed or vague idea as of now
aero447: Infinite money hack.
aero447:
aero447: <@750270494615404544>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I removed your ignored and this is what I get to witness <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
alejandrozarzuelo: that would never be able to fly
alejandrozarzuelo: it is different
spicy.lemonade: orithcopter could fly I believe
spicy.lemonade: well
spicy.lemonade: glide
spicy.lemonade: no human could generate the energy needed to sustain flight
alejandrozarzuelo: we know how a dyson sphere would be built, and we are certain about the how, when, what to do
alejandrozarzuelo: we understand completely the physics of it
spicy.lemonade: we are?
alejandrozarzuelo: we just lack the infrastructure needed
alejandrozarzuelo: its not like leonardo who didnt know about lift
alejandrozarzuelo: mathematically
spicy.lemonade: I feel like we need a few solar power breakthroughs etc
spicy.lemonade: i mean sure
spicy.lemonade: well what about mind uploading
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futurist_wizard: Im semi sure for purposes of grunt programming or the entertainment space near future AI will be rather impactful
st.sioux: it's already very impactful for boilerplate code generation
st.sioux: just kind of expensive
st.sioux: can't rely on free models if you're a business
zonchao: https://x.com/Hangsiin/status/1909574683500200173?
hikukomoru: What about Gemini? It's pretty cheap and great at code
zonchao: wtf do they have
futurist_wizard: Mira handing out shares
futurist_wizard: I have a theory about these small labs with notable people and absurd start up valuations are rugpulls
metaldragon01: They have a good idea about how humans will interact with new upcoming models
zoermena: Holy shit
zoermena: 22 degrees instead of 32? I’m so blessed
st.sioux: with gemini there are also more considerations like ecosystem lock in but they are becoming a good option too
st.sioux: like a lot of teams use aws or azure and integrating google cloud is jsut too messy
hikukomoru: Who are you talking abt
hikukomoru: Oh nvm you mean Mira
otub: talent
metaldragon01: Sama is absolutely cracked at identifying real talent
professorheaven: Is this lab trying to achieve AGI as well?
metaldragon01: Nope
metaldragon01: https://thinkingmachines.ai/
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/togethercompute/status/1909697122372378908
hey1_1hey: Yo
hey1_1hey: Is this real?
metaldragon01: Yes
metaldragon01: https://www.deepcogito.com/research/cogito-v1-preview
metaldragon01: This feels more impressive to me though
metaldragon01: Both pretty great tbh!
clevermoniker: 72 MMLU at 3B <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
metaldragon01: Yeaaap
clevermoniker: wished they also had GPQA score
clevermoniker: 8B at 81 MMLU when the 8B distill is 70?
clevermoniker: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
clevermoniker: if this is real this is a big deal
metaldragon01: Same but that 3b absolutely cracked
metaldragon01: They are going to keep upgrading them too
metaldragon01: We are getting close to rapid self improvement pipelines tbh
metaldragon01: Esp with these new methods that scale ambiguous things like writing quality ect that can generalize
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: They post gpqa for the 70b so looks like the method scales well
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metaldragon01: Broooooo
zoermena: No way
anathemaofmankind: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457
metaldragon01: Going mainstream fast
zoermena: Not fast enough
anathemaofmankind: True
zoermena: But I do like feeling like I’m one of the privileged
anathemaofmankind: I want Asmongold and Moist Critikal talking about this
zoermena: Those dudes suck all they do is hate and talk about bad things happening
zoermena: What happened to good news
anathemaofmankind: Is there a single popular channel who only talks about good news?
zoermena: AI channels <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic:
drewsni: Pls no I’m enjoying being able to hog the compute
brain4brain: https://x.com/apollonator3000/status/1904999339983819129?t=1M8LntxpF4AcVpq32i1-Ww&s=19
drewsni: Blackwell goes brrrrrr
.histic: slop thumbnails
.histic: but not bad
zoermena: This
brain4brain: It's the second renaissance
brain4brain: The future is here
.histic: i'm so tempted in buying the $20 sub
hikukomoru: Oh my god bro not Assmangold and Critikal
anathemaofmankind: Well they got a lot of views
zoermena: The best 20 dollars you could ever spend in the 21 first century
drewsni: No joke I could see them pausing subs for a week
anathemaofmankind: Do it bro
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982
futurist_wizard: Critikal be like 'dur dis scawry dur anyway see ya'
.histic: 😬 so tempted
anathemaofmankind: Don't forget the deadpan childish jokes
.histic: i do, i just kind of want to wait until GPT-5 comes out
zoermena: I almost spit my drink holy fuck 😂
anathemaofmankind: You realize the image gen could get nerfed if you wait too long?
Nerfs have happened before
.histic: also, my paycheck is biweekly, and i already spent a lot of dumb stuff <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Asmongold be like 'dur AI women games bad woke altgayman dur' either way you aren't getting insightful commentary
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905069027858448667
is he speaking to me?
zoermena: This, say goodbye to copyrighted characters or decent semi nsfw
.histic:
anathemaofmankind: People watch Asmongold to validate their own biases not get insightful commentary
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hey1_1hey: Yeah
st.sioux: not so hype
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: Not impressed at all
spicy.lemonade: how
hikukomoru: Soooo disappointing
shirethedreamer: worse on polyglot than 01 or 03 mini
hey1_1hey: Better than Llama 4 🥀
literallyvarane: It’s pretty impressive ngl.
spicy.lemonade: its a base model
spicy.lemonade: 💔
shirethedreamer: yeah i know
but 2 gens after a base model it should euqate a reasoner based off of previous gen
spicy.lemonade: not 2 gens tho
hikukomoru: You know it's bad when you have to compare it to Llama 4
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high was 2 months ago
shirethedreamer: 4o -> 4.5 -> 4.1
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/smiling-excited-laughing-creepy-gif-14492358
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its just a distil
hey1_1hey: You were hyping it up and it turned out to be the same as llama 3
hey1_1hey: Pipe down bruh
hikukomoru: I learned my lesson
Never trusting meta again
shirethedreamer: they are not even comparing to gpt 4.5 which is sad af
callmepyro: It depends on the pricing. If nano is competative with flash-lite then that's very good
spicy.lemonade: they are
hey1_1hey:
spicy.lemonade: they did
hey1_1hey: Good
hey1_1hey: Zuck is hot but aperntly that doesn't transfer to model intelegence
spicy.lemonade: they literaly did
shirethedreamer: oh yeah i see it
good
spicy.lemonade: in all their graphs
hikukomoru: "Zuck is hot" 💀
literallyvarane: Just realized that the reason we might not get this in the app is because Altman previously said they’re not shipping non-CoT models moving forward.
hey1_1hey: Hotter than before*
literallyvarane: Perhaps that’s just an app restriction
callmepyro:
hey1_1hey: I mean yeah its cool. Nothing groudnbreaking tho
callmepyro: I wanna see the long context evals
callmepyro: NIAH is not a real long context eval
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hikukomoru: That’s not true then
I did it like a few hours ago
memlaswaif: I haven't tested out much but it's default mode seems to be Ghibli now asked it generate few images without specifying it did it all in Ghibli style for no reason
zonchao: it is disabled randomly, the model is hallucinating content policies
_cloudost: I should ghibilify myself too before antis pressure openai to shut it
zoermena: Fuck it, me too.
zoermena: #metoo
memlaswaif: they don't care about randos on twitter having fits
zonchao: > Altman later elevated Pachocki to research director and privately promised both of them they could lead the research direction of the company, which led to months of lost productivity.
<@378996537704841216> slimy sama 😂
hikukomoru: Show us your pretty face
hey1_1hey: I gotta aswell
hey1_1hey: I would find a photo of me that I have saved but the trouble is I don't take photos. Not even of me, I just don't take photos of anything
hikukomoru: Show me your ugly face
zoermena: Hahaha
zoermena: Im to paranoid to share it
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10371245960573455153
_cloudost: I also thought Sky voice wouldnt get taken down but all people on twitter and reddit were saying yes The voice does sound like scarlet, its a baseless accusation and then Scarlet saw a good opportunity to grab money from openAI,
hey1_1hey: Its ghiblfied anyway
_cloudost: these antis def have an impact
zonchao: > The board felt they couldn’t divulge that it had been Murati who had given them some of the most detailed evidence of Altman’s management failings. They had banked on Murati calming employees while they searched for a CEO. Instead, she was leading her colleagues in a revolt against the board.
😭😭
hikukomoru: Dw it probably won’t look too much like you
hikukomoru: Mine looks very simplified and changed my hair colour too
ailoveyoom: Share yours then 🥵
trent_k: feeling very bullish about gemini 2.5
trent_k: not a very good objective metric but
trent_k: it's very good at factorio optimization problems
trent_k: better than 3.7 sonnet thinking
archon.e: I love this
archon.e: You can get basically sota code generation for free now
archon.e: I have to say Gemini 2.5 pro live performance in my native language Malayalam was a revelation
archon.e: No other model came close at holding a decent convo so far. This one nailed it
memlaswaif: it did sound like her tho
memlaswaif: they mimicked her voice in "her"
memlaswaif: regardless that was just a stunt
memlaswaif: openAI knew they were probably gonna have to put it down they just did it for the promotion
apology0759: I just chatted with ChatGPT.
apology0759: I felt terrible, and I vented to her and let her pretend to be my girlfriend.
apology0759: It is really good; she is much better than humans.
memlaswaif: why r u back
otub:
hikukomoru: I feel shy now because Alejandro and Futurist Hill called me a boring basic bitch
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drewsni: I’m about to put it to the real test tho and see if it can vibe code a working radar that uses the rawest form of radar data
trojan09205: whats the difference between vibe coding and guided AI augmented coding
drewsni: What I do I guess is just guided but I think there’s people who legitimately don’t look at any of the code and just go with it
trojan09205: yeah that i find ridiculous lol. im just imagining your use case with raw data ingestion. you definitely need to feed it schemas and investigate nuances in the data yourself before asking the AI to build with it
drewsni: From what I understand if vibe coding, it’s people that actually don’t have any experience and need the agent to do everything for them. Like they’d have to ask “how do I run this python file” type questions
drewsni: Yeah, I also like to at least be constantly learning while the agent is working. If it does something I don’t quite recognize I always ask for clarification and a reason
drewsni: I was really bad at coding when ChatGPT came out, and I like to think that I’ve greatly improved since then. Kinda the best time to really grind learning to code if you think about it. Got the basics/fundementals with gpt 3.5 turbo, expanded when GPT 4 came out and made an iPhone app, learned databases when I was trying to figure out RAG, got way better at web dev when 3.5 sonnet came out, and now I can train my own computer vision models from scratch using my own data
drewsni: All in like 2.5 years, feels good
drewsni: And I can’t forget my magnum opus, the geoguessr benchmark <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
trojan09205: Thats fantastic brother we all have different paths to learning software development and there is no right or wrong as long as you actually learn to develop the skills that you will keep
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/gn-homies-gif-26916903
drewsni: o7
st.sioux:
otub: https://tenor.com/view/apple-cat-cat-with-apple-apple-with-cat-cute-cat-gif-6092596570848924427
brain4brain: Next week will be interesting
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 ultra is not next week
spicy.lemonade: its may 20th
spicy.lemonade: and prob not even then
metaldragon01: Ultra if it's real will drop with the new subs
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/davidad/status/1918059244680552892?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
joaoluz19: Guys say good animes I have only 3 left of vacation 😦
joaoluz19: Will watch full metal
joaoluz19: That image is fire
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: still gets this wrong
spicy.lemonade: not a single model on the market
himekokatagiri:
spicy.lemonade: has got the correct answer to this yet
a1c4p0ne: Wait for o3 pro
a1c4p0ne: Or grok 3.5 prob gets it
spicy.lemonade: o3 pro is just o3 pass 1 though
spicy.lemonade: youd think o4 mini high would get it
spicy.lemonade: o3 failed it multiple times
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see how grok 3.5 does next week
clevermoniker: do we know exact release date?
a1c4p0ne: Nope
clevermoniker: just next week? hm i see
ldj: hmm, did Gemini 2.5 Pro just accidentally leak its thinking to me
metaldragon01: This via api?
ldj: Yes
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futurist_wizard: But it does work
zoermena: Not worth it, I've already taken the role of femboy.
.wolfnacht: i used to smoke marlboro reds. like 7-8 a day until i stopped 2 months ago
wellmeaningalien: im definitely not strong minded im straight edge but thats because ive never picked up a bottle of alcohol yet
futurist_wizard: How tall are you
hikukomoru: Brother look around
There's nothing more embarassing you can say
maintcrew: hop on the addis chat
zoermena: 5'4
wellmeaningalien: soon man but tbh im more thinking strattera and shit
maintcrew: u never drank in ur life?!?
hey1_1hey: Talk about it, I take these 200mg caffine tablets when I need to work or I will litterly just start thinking about the most random shit when working to the point I cant concentrate
wellmeaningalien: maybe get strattera + a non stimulant
wellmeaningalien: nope
wellmeaningalien: never ever
.wolfnacht: Now i want to start again, maybe it'll fix my worse adhd
futurist_wizard: Yeah I would've converted to femboyism at that height, im a foot taller than you
hey1_1hey: Is there an addy dealer in wales 👉 👈
wellmeaningalien: damn bro ur gonna get like a heart attack with that
maintcrew: stop taking tablets caffeine is meant to be enjoyed NERD
zoermena: KEEP AT IT COOL
hey1_1hey: 200mg is nothing
maintcrew: why u asking me ?!?!!
wellmeaningalien: YEAH LIKE AUSSIE LEMONADE MONSTER
wellmeaningalien: LETS GO
hey1_1hey: No fuck off
hey1_1hey: Twas' a joke you autist
wellmeaningalien: dont u talk like multiple
hey1_1hey: 1
hey1_1hey: Just one
wellmeaningalien: ty bro
zoermena: Even so I live in Mexico so it's not a death sentence as it is in the US.
wellmeaningalien: cool
futurist_wizard: Yeah, but i also could not tell people and keep it all to myself
hey1_1hey: I tried taking 2 at once one time 💀
hey1_1hey: Never again
st.sioux: is strength the power to resist, or the power to reclaim yourself after losing control?
maintcrew: being a femboy isnt a death sentence in the US lmfao
zoermena: What does it improve even.
hey1_1hey: Good to know
maintcrew: its the country with the most femboys after poland
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_3sphere: goober implies goobing
wellmeaningalien: It's all oh the latest model is not wildly better in every way than the model that released a week ago
wellmeaningalien: Retards big improvements like this used to take years
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: A goober is a foolish person
hikukomoru: Yeah it's a higher IQ server
wellmeaningalien: You're not even in it
hikukomoru: Don't threaten me with a good time
wellmeaningalien: It's a more autistic server that I'd say
hikukomoru: Yeah not with this account
wellmeaningalien: Why
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: BeaverAI is much better but it gets horny really quick
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/floch-attack-on-titan-shhh-yeagerists-shhh-anime-gif-25010228
wellmeaningalien: Nigga
futurist_wizard: I have i think 20 alts on all servers simultaneously
hikukomoru: Don't say the n word
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: Boohoohoohoo
wellmeaningalien:
_3sphere: I can smell it thinking about it ☠️
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Thoughts on this big dudes
wellmeaningalien: I think this is pretty uge
wellmeaningalien: I cant wait for tech like this to become universal
futurist_wizard: I'll believe it when i see it
wellmeaningalien: True true true
futurist_wizard: Its always HUGE until its released
futurist_wizard: And then
wellmeaningalien: Ok fair with OpenAI its like
futurist_wizard: Disappointmwnt
wellmeaningalien: Tons of edging and then its shit lol
futurist_wizard: Yeah
futurist_wizard: And singularity eats it up every single time
zonchao: sama says he is "super excited" about every damn thing
wellmeaningalien: I guess o1 was really the last good thing they made then we had o3 but that was a nothingburger
wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.5/3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.0 Flash/Gemini 2.5 Pro were much more impressive
futurist_wizard: Sama is excited about showing us his massive black hole, like who cares, we'll probably be disappointed
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hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> 👈
joaoluz19: 😮
hey1_1hey: Futureist blonde and clock fool are the same person?
joaoluz19: That was funny ngl
hey1_1hey: hill*
hikukomoru: I remember when he was Futurist Retard
futurist_wizard: Yeah that's the thing you need to correct
futurist_wizard: Not the futureist
hey1_1hey: Futureist is a really hard word to spell
futurist_wizard: Futurist Hill died unfortunately
futurist_wizard: He got into a car crash
_3sphere: Mine is already consumed by degeneracy there none left for you sorry 😋
joaoluz19: It's over
hey1_1hey: You would think how much I talk about AI you would think that I would be amazing at spelling the word intelegent. I dont think I've spelled that word first try in my life
hey1_1hey: Real
hey1_1hey: God rest his soul, I'll put in a good word for him for when ASI comes
hikukomoru: Good riddance
hikukomoru: I prefered Futurist Blonde anyways
joaoluz19: 10 billion waifus with 10 billion different me connected same time wow
joaoluz19: This is the dream
himekokatagiri: I just want one
joaoluz19: Harem 4D
himekokatagiri: or none idk
futurist_wizard: Futurist label no more
hikukomoru: 1 waifu is enough
alejandrozarzuelo: Didn't leave, fractal and I jusr don't get along, decided to have a détente, I'm here again
hey1_1hey: Welcome back
joaoluz19: 1 quadrillion
hikukomoru: Seeing couples fight is so sad
joaoluz19: Bro you have to accept the glorious evolution
hey1_1hey: I came to see what the chatter was about because I had some free time and I just se a wall of messages of you and Fractla aruging and then I see you left and I was like "Oh here we go again, Alejnadro has to sleep on the couch again"
joaoluz19: We are so back
hey1_1hey: Why don't you and Fractal get along? Something to do with applied mathamatics or smth or other
hey1_1hey: Thats what Fractal is usually mad about
hey1_1hey: Or philopshy
futurist_wizard: Singularity man
hikukomoru: Also what is a détente, just speak English please
himekokatagiri: He's called Microsoft because that's his dick
alejandrozarzuelo: It is English, I jusr like to use gallicisms from time to time that's all
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it gives it a bit of gravitas
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alejandrozarzuelo: for example, india has a lower inequality than the US, but the 10/90 ratio is higher
why?
because in the US there is an extremely wealthy class that is very very small that india has less of, this makes the US concengration of income worse than india, however what india has is an "upper class" consisting of the top 5-10% of the population basically living like in a developed european country while the rest of the country is very poor
this upper class isnt as obscenely wealthy as in the US pushing indian inequality lower than america's but they accumulate a larger share of the national income
alejandrozarzuelo: TlDr: there are many kinds of inequality and its harder than just having a simple number
futurist_wizard: Yeah i agree i would say there is no strong candidate on the democrats side though, they are all bland and come off as very ingenious which was true for the republicans for while until trump
alejandrozarzuelo: i love buttegieg, i think he is the meme/tech/podcast savyest democrat and i think currently he has the best image
he annoys leftists but thats kinda inevitable
alejandrozarzuelo: AOC also is like this, she has a great image, but she is ptobably too far left to be president
alejandrozarzuelo: i think Buttegieg is probably the dems strongest candidate
futurist_wizard: I also like buttegieg, and annoying leftists is easy because you just need to be for the statue quo instead of breaking things and revolutions and the such
alejandrozarzuelo: for the record I think they are all burgeois shills that will not solve the US's problems and will continue the deterioration of the proletariat at home and abroad as they all support the US geopolitical structure and unfetchered capitalism that will prove very dangerous with an ASI
BUT they are not fascists
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that if he is the nominate for 2028 the dems have a better chance than with any of the currently prominent candidates
and while a new candidate could emmerge victorious, a person with little name recohnizeability will struggle to be more electable than buttegieg
futurist_wizard: Which bourgeois shills are you talking about? There are many that are totally against the US
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean the dems
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: 2 days after my birthday
gamerbath: great! why did they say 2025 anyway?
alejandrozarzuelo: Me when I talk abstractly about politics
VS
Me when an US election comes and the democratic candidate isn't a fascist
trent_k:
trent_k: <@430269783112548362>
trent_k: I'm predicting a rise in the number of people with a down syndrome fetish
trent_k: they're usually built a bit like a fridge, no offense to any down syndrome fellas in the chat
trent_k: if your feed is full of people with a down syndrome face but a hot body, what is the social consequence of that happening to a ton of people
alejandrozarzuelo: 96% of down syndrome fetuses get aborted in europe
alejandrozarzuelo: and i think that in most countries with abortion legal the number is similar
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact there has never been so few down syndrome people around
alejandrozarzuelo: many orgs say this is down genocide, but this is hard to square for them, since they try to appeal to the left but the left is pro abortion and the right doesnt like degenerates
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, i see plenty of older down syndrome people but very very few young ones
okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
trent_k: it's for this reason that I unironically think Chris Chan's art will be in a museum one day
trent_k: he is part of a dying breed of person
trent_k: one day there won't be anyone like him left
alejandrozarzuelo: idk who that is
trent_k: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgxj_0xPleg&list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm
watch this series. it's about 85 hours. this will get you mostly up to speed
alejandrozarzuelo: lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: no time 4 that
trent_k: just put off your schoolwork. it can wait
trent_k: stop going to class for about 5 days
trojan09205: Sonichu
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/chris-chan-ok-okay-okay-sign-cwc-gif-5525518948499734838
trent_k: sonichu is a biblical demon that chris accidentally summoned
trent_k:
trent_k: 🤘
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777agical: they need to get this show going again
trent_k: having tried o3 and gemini 2.5 pro it's really close
trent_k: o3 feels a bit smarter but less personable, so i mostly use gemini 2.5 pro unless i think a problem i have is very hard
trent_k: idk, at this point I think like 95% of the stuff I'm doing with these models is not really pushing them to their limits, and so it hardly matters which model I'm using as long as it's one of the frontier ones that hit that special point
okbut: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1364696550890278965 big
trent_k: I see they have it in gh copilot now too
trent_k: i might have to try cursor again though
trent_k: gh copilot has been getting enshittified lately
okbut: I've yet to taste test Cursor
trojan09205: Gemini 2.5 actually recommended a pretty good movie
trojan09205: “Paterson”
professorheaven: When they say best are they only talking about capability? Because best overall is definitely 2.5 pro with its price to performance ratio but capability wise I feel like it’s tied with o3
nsec: guys
nsec: what
nsec: if
nsec: asi
nsec: TODAY
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: I had a dream anthropic announced it
nsec: gotta be real
nsec: the baselisk is forwarning me
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
nsec: this is proof that the mantle of heaven is lost to elon rn
nsec: this is also proof ai benchmarks are useless how tf med better than high at the same task <:Jerry_Wat:1125367774957539338>
.histic: facts.
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/IdzXbIW9kxY
joaoluz19: Penrose and Zizek in the same debate lol
drewsni: Hot take, current coding “agents” from cursor, windsurf, vscode actually just slow you down and produce worse code than if you were to just prompt pro 2.5 on aistudio
joaoluz19: You have 2 hours here in Brazil
drewsni: Overthinking, which you’d understand if you checked out the deepguessr bench 😉
spicy.lemonade: Spent a whole class debating my literature professor at Berkeley on AI
spicy.lemonade: That was crazy
spicy.lemonade: They were stuck in 2024
spicy.lemonade: “4o just spits out text”
spicy.lemonade: Me: let me introduce you to the reasoning paradigm
ldj: What about V0 and lovable versus ai studio
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
campionunbound: https://spacenews.com/darpa-requests-proposals-for-water-prospecting-lunar-orbiter/
campionunbound: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/advancing-artificial-intelligence-education-for-american-youth/
ldj: The artists are going to hate this one 😭
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mihrcelium:
drewsni: this is where someone questions me and i brag about having an oai pro sub jan of 2023
mihrcelium: I haven't done shit with mine except realize how awful Sora is and useless deep researches on America's progression into fascism. But now we're cookin'.
.histic: <@578146630222741504> if we have a misaligned AGI, hopefully skynet wipes them out first.
anathemaofmankind: Based
memlaswaif: these vids will age veryy badly
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Now ai
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Lolll
spicy.lemonade: 1 min looks better
spicy.lemonade: than what took him 9 hours
st.sioux: now art is going to be rated based on how long it took to make
st.sioux: what a timeline
brain4brain: When UBI is announced, I hope they split it into two part, give them half so they can’t bitch about AI anymore, but keep the other half because of “hate speech against AI”
mihrcelium: At the risk of reviving an old tired spiel, I think an AGI aligned with current human power structures will be the real threat vector.
spicy.lemonade: unironically
spicy.lemonade: theres more inconsitencies
spicy.lemonade: in his art
spicy.lemonade: than the ai
spicy.lemonade: cause he had to trace the car
brain4brain: AI could do it in a few minutes to the same level of quality
okbut: I've been thinking of how long it used to take for an image to load when internet ran on Dial-up
spicy.lemonade: it did
brain4brain: Plot twist: it’s AI
brain4brain: “Hey look, I wasted thousands of hours of my life in this stupid pixel you all will look at for only a few seconds!”
brain4brain: These artist are annoying
brain4brain:
mihrcelium: Unrelatedly, where's <@1149403958973050910>?
anathemaofmankind: Hopefully they all lose their jobs and go homeless
mihrcelium: I don't think Nadoora has said anything since December on this server.
brain4brain: Arabic Sam Altman is in the lab somewhere in the Middle East
brain4brain: I hope they lose their job, and I hope they temporarily go homeless
brain4brain: But the AGI is all-loving, it shall bring peace to all
brain4brain:
anathemaofmankind: Luddites are so short sighted it's crazy.
Instead of seeing the bigger picture or identifying that the current economic system is the problem, they go out and harass people who use AI tools and use arbitrary critiques like it's "Soulless".
They stoke the flames of my misanthropy
spicy.lemonade: AI math is souless
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: only humans should be solving math olympiad problems
.histic: it's pretty sad when someone's response to something undeniably better than them is to dismiss it as bad and soulless. it's the biggest cope of all time.
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st.sioux: He is relevant
st.sioux: Nuclear power
wellmeaningalien: barely
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien: aha
wellmeaningalien: all hes known for
wellmeaningalien: o thank u lord trump
st.sioux: And now that trump is pulling out of NATO they're going to be the dominant military power in europe (or germany idk)
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew:
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216> pls
maintcrew: dont ruin the vibe nerd
st.sioux: salty lol
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
wellmeaningalien: hard
gamerbath: steven holstrum
zonchao: https://x.com/orphcorp/status/1904970431947325608?
hikukomoru: Ram and Rem 🥵 🥵 👅 👅
maintcrew: throwback to this masterpiece of twitter drama
_cloudost: Why are they so obsessed with AI art then if they think AI art has no value, make it make sense
st.sioux: their jobs
_cloudost: they were always jobless
wellmeaningalien: only rem i know is this rem
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/trigun-trigun-98-reminder-saturday-rem-saverem-gif-9176297563309469502
maintcrew: <@430269783112548362> tf u mean 🤨 u seriously don't remember?
hikukomoru: Furry inflation artists 💔 💔
ailoveyoom: No I mean his expression lol
wellmeaningalien: oh my god did the pop do thise with angela murkul 😲
_cloudost: They are 24/7 constantly on anti AI subs, instead of fixing their lives
wellmeaningalien: alzheimer
wellmeaningalien: man it happened 1 and a half year ago already
wellmeaningalien: 💀 <@749514473303179358>
_cloudost: artists and marxists have so much in common
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> Generate me 🫦 🫦
maintcrew:
_cloudost: Generate a drawing of her building AGI
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> have you tried generating light yagami writing in his death note?
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neon01197: got o4-mini as a free user aswell
spicy.lemonade: The perimeter of a 10-by-10 square field is surrounded by lasers pointing into the field. (Each laser begins half a unit from the edge of the field, as indicated by the •’s.)
Some of the lasers have numbers beside them. Place diagonal mirrors in some of the cells so that the product of the segment lengths of a laser’s path matches the clue numbers. (For instance, the segments for the “75” path in the example puzzle have lengths 5, 3, 5.) Mirrors may not be placed in orthogonally adjacent cells.
Once finished, determine the missing clue numbers for the perimeter, and calculate the sum of these clues for each side of the square. The answer to this puzzle is the product of these four sums.
neon01197: dey fast
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
neon01197: dam
neon01197: free o4-mini with search
spicy.lemonade: dammit it just searched for the source of puzzle
spicy.lemonade: ok that wont work
spicy.lemonade: lol
hey1_1hey: Tell it not too use search
abundantliving_: https://x.com/github/status/1912551942376600041
anathemaofmankind: What the shit
anathemaofmankind: OAI keeps giving me reasons not to renew
spicy.lemonade: o4 full will have 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: increases by 20%
spicy.lemonade: each time
anathemaofmankind: Does this mean recursive self improvement already
hikukomoru: Is that enough to replace most programmers
hey1_1hey: Check in in 3 months to see if there is another 20% jump
hikukomoru: They actually mentioned RSI very briefly
hikukomoru: 3 months for o4 full
hikukomoru: I'm going to die
hey1_1hey: Its not fast enough, I am going to be out of education by then and then I finally have to get a job <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
return_to_monke1_33974: we have 2 years left until we are decomposed to molecular level to be used as compute material for the ASI <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600><:doomer:1136265388473196644>
return_to_monke1_33974: just like me fr fr
anathemaofmankind: I'm graduating in 2 years so I hope this is true
popsiclejohnithan: I always wanted to be a part of God.
_cloudost:
popsiclejohnithan:
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/DaveShapi/status/1912561027574632527
anathemaofmankind: This dude is delusional
777agical: https://x.com/shiringhaffary/status/1912569808777859506?s=46
popsiclejohnithan: We shall see.
otub: loud incorrect buzzer
popsiclejohnithan: What shrooms does to a mf.
hikukomoru: Someone should buy Anthropic too
hikukomoru: They can't compete by themselves anymore
a1c4p0ne: Dario said they’re only focusing on enterprise
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.wolfnacht: they made it 10M just to make people widen their eyebrows and eyes for a moment
.histic: saw this
sweetievee__33649: same tbh
wellmeaningalien: mid
wellmeaningalien: yeah they just post that shit to make them look good
sweetievee__33649: i better be able to erp with my dnd characters
wellmeaningalien: too afraid to post actually good benchmarks
wellmeaningalien: 🫣
3ds0662: its official
hey1_1hey: ewww
hey1_1hey: instagram reels
wellmeaningalien: cant shrug me because every company does this
EZ#5938: https://embedez.com/embed/search_67f189f4c1f68b5845967773
hey1_1hey: Thats where all the racist people are at apart from twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
steven_the_frog: Fuck needle in the haystack. They should have a benchmark evaluating adding features to a 10M token codebase
wellmeaningalien: the llama 4 benchmark numbers feel soo cherrypicked. xai openai claude they all do this lol
3ds0662: its official
wellmeaningalien: we're gonna see what independent testers will have to say lol
.wolfnacht: i believe in a conspiracy theory that - the nvidia, amd and intel doesn't want people to run llm models at home with a consumer pricepoint.
st.sioux: instagram is just full of npcs
3ds0662: he’s open sourcing llama4 🦙
hey1_1hey: I just remember everyone saying that theres just gore
futurist_wizard: I find Instagram alright but facebook is no good
hey1_1hey: Like fucking everywhere
3ds0662: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-groove-groovy-grooving-jam-gif-23323897
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly i'd just say that's becaue they're more gearing their models towards enterprise now and they dont really give a fuck bout entheusiasts like us
fractalcomputer: Zuckerberg is a nincompoop.
hikukomoru: Yeah
st.sioux: im running a quantized uncensored r1 right now on 16gb vram
wellmeaningalien: ❤️
.wolfnacht: the centralization and barriers...
futurist_wizard: Never noticed zucky has a crooked nose
hey1_1hey: Does he?
futurist_wizard: Its bent
sweetievee__33649: yeah always has done
.wolfnacht: how many minutes per token are you getting ?
hey1_1hey: Deviated septum ahh
wellmeaningalien: brb doxxing myself on meta's site to get llama 4
wellmeaningalien: im gonna see if i can still manage to run the smallest model
.wolfnacht: what are you trying to tell here ?
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hey1_1hey: Then can you make him wear appropriate mushroom attire
maintcrew:
spicy.lemonade: it keeps giving me code
futurist_wizard: Nice
spicy.lemonade: nomater how i prompt
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: You ain't vegan
hikukomoru: No I'm not
I love burgers
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: bruh
spicy.lemonade: bro can we turn this shit off
spicy.lemonade: 💀
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Disappointing
Vibe check failed
hey1_1hey: I dont like this anime anymore
hey1_1hey: Absolute mushroom slander
ailoveyoom: I think if you use the word upscale it does Code Interpreter stuff instead
3ds0662:
.histic: can u send me that image lol
hikukomoru: Ilya jumpscare:
ailoveyoom: Maybe like, "generate HD version of this" or something
3ds0662: Best it could do
maintcrew: not me
3ds0662: Should I try gpt-4.5 instead?
spicy.lemonade: bruh still have dalle sad
st.sioux: its even blurrier lol
hey1_1hey: Same here, I was gonna ask it the same prompt from a while back to see the difference. It went something along the lines of what do you think my life looks like now, 5 years in the future, 10, 25, 100 etc etc
3ds0662: Both models failed 4.5 and 4o
3ds0662:
3ds0662: 4.5
wellmeaningalien: just say "can u make this image clearer"
3ds0662: To which one?
wellmeaningalien: 4o
3ds0662: Ok
wellmeaningalien: 4.5 doesnt have image gen at least i believe lol
3ds0662:
3ds0662: Your prompt lol 😂
3ds0662: What model can though?
wellmeaningalien: ok lets talk about this new brampton model for a second, what the fuck are these benchmarks???
wellmeaningalien: like, we joke about big labs posting about graphs based off vibes but
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drewsni: Guys I had a dream that we are getting 4o native image and Gemini pro today
spicy.lemonade:
literallyvarane: What’s the sauce for that?
spicy.lemonade: top left
spicy.lemonade: me
spicy.lemonade: im the source
spicy.lemonade: lol
literallyvarane: You personally have access??
spicy.lemonade: yes
_3sphere: I had a dream where I was digging for something important in a pile of garbage <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
literallyvarane: Oh shit maybe it is real
_3sphere: How am I not feeling the AGI while dreaming ywt
spicy.lemonade: this is batshit
hey1_1hey: I had a dream about the tf2 2fort cow
drewsni: Who the FUCK clown reacted me
popsiclejohnithan: Only three months into this year as well.
joaoluz19: Man I need to take a 8 month break from AI news
spicy.lemonade: wayyyyyy beter than o3 mini high
precariousworlds.: I had a dream where I was wandering the desert with this weird drug addicted tribe
At our destination I saw millions bow beneath my feet and depart for a holy war in my name
gamerbath: so gemini is finally leading in something that isn't latency, speed or cost?
precariousworlds.: gaymini will be topped by the end of the week watch
google will lose
_3sphere: Any memory of what they were fighting for
literallyvarane: TBD, but maybe
precariousworlds.: a green paradise instead of a desert
_3sphere: Doesn't sound particularly holy
gamerbath: google is just 35%, 25% for end of april. I was expecting this to have shot up by now, so I guess gemini 2.5 pro won't topple the lmsys leaderboard?
trent_k: flash 2.0 is goated. if u disagree its a skill issue. i will not elaborate
st.sioux: xai 59%??
joaoluz19: Good AI week for me => solve Riemman hypothesis, solve nuclear fusion, solve 2B full body with nanobots, full automation of white-collar jobs
trent_k: big overlap between crypto people who love xitter and polymarket users
sarik0497: More competition is better for us.
Make the U.S. shit their pants and suddenly having to speed up a bit.
gamerbath: yea grok 3 is currently on the top
gamerbath: lmsys is used to determine the "best AI model"
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-blasphemy-silence-stop-gif-563526331118421784
hey1_1hey: Pretty pessimistic I'd say.
_3sphere: Wanting grass is not a religious reason
sarik0497: Not even FDVR so you can sit in a quiet cottage, with snow slowly dropping outside, and it’s just you and Fractal talking philosophy?
Weirdo..
.wolfnacht: still no API since 1 month
hey1_1hey: Right anyway, I have already done my maths for today but I want to go do some more since I brought these new pens that are very nice to write with
hey1_1hey: ta ra all
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st.sioux: i love my favorite band skikoot
hey1_1hey: I dont know if I should be thankful or ashamed
hey1_1hey: Good band innit
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: Never was
realelonmuskx: no you wont little meat puppet, you are not needed, not special, wont leave a mark, and no one will neither. this is monkey mmo survival game pay to exist
wellmeaningalien: i pay like so low cause im so poor
maintcrew: i mean... just go one country over to germany or whoever has it legal and get it there???
zoermena: I can attest to this, I was in this short course about data analytics and I swear to you I didn't put any level of attention for 5 weeks, I got medicated two days before the final exam and I studied all of the material in one morning, same day of the exam. I got an 87/100. So yes you do become einstein.
wellmeaningalien: Yeah i could do it in belgium but im POOR BRO
hikukomoru: Wrong
maintcrew: go work nerd
zoermena: <:this:1136266732542119946>
wellmeaningalien: yea why didnt i think of that wow
wellmeaningalien: <a:facepalm:1224737123911995542>
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352
hikukomoru: Doesn't look as gay now
Still very gay, but 1% less
maintcrew: sorry i shouldve censored the trigger word w*rk
zoermena: It fucking felt like this.
wellmeaningalien: bro you're gonna scare off the unemployed gooners waiting for asi waifu
zoermena: I'm now on a mission to get back to my peak
hey1_1hey: God I wish I had meds. I would be an unstopable machine
a1c4p0ne:
futurist_wizard: I do get brain dog though on elvanse
wellmeaningalien: still need to try this lion's mane thing you say it makes you like god or something
.wolfnacht: why ppl in these NEET servers are so cringe ?
futurist_wizard: Like quite a bit
hikukomoru: Wtf why does he have a gun
maintcrew: i mean why not try the good old redbull+zyn stack it works for me
wellmeaningalien: im never going back on ritalin but im going to try to get like medikinet or whatever they have in france
a1c4p0ne: It’s Geminis idea
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
zoermena: They call us cringe, I call us epic.
wellmeaningalien: this server is the most schizo NEET server ever
hikukomoru: Aren't you a neet
maintcrew: i am employed
wellmeaningalien: bro i used to drink like one monster everyday
wellmeaningalien: sometimes a monster + red bull
.wolfnacht: >problem with you
everyone says this but idc.
maintcrew: 🔥 🔥 🔥
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zonchao: nope. 4.1 could still be better at code
st.sioux:
anathemaofmankind: China number one
hikukomoru: Mommy Gemini spoiled us too much
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
iamsleak: how does it compare to Gemini-2.5-Pro-Exp-03-25 for instance? all you see is openai models in the benchmarks..
drewsni: 2.5 probably uses 10x the tokens per coding request
fractalcomputer: I love presenting quantified intelligence with no numerical reference.
literallyvarane: Honest the real question is where 2.5 Flash falls. That *could* kill these models.
hikukomoru: It's dumber and more expensive
777agical: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911831700964872531?s=46
zoermena: Ah so 4.1 is cheaper misinformation!!!
benata: OpenAI is not until they make a model that is actually cheap
zonchao: brother
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
zonchao: nano is literally free
benata: nano is shit
benata: like literal shit
benata: deepseek is better
anathemaofmankind: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is heavily distiled for math
spicy.lemonade: they always have
shirethedreamer: everything has numerical reference except latency which you can see one table to the left in the general and cost comparison
zonchao: this is a model just for vibe coding, will have to see how it works
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-koshitan-dancing-dance-gif-712492189138071330
benata: COPE IN CHAT
benata: OPENAI COPE
anathemaofmankind: When is Deepseerk R2 releasing
hikukomoru: Google bros we can't stop winning
anathemaofmankind: Isn't it in April
ailoveyoom: What's the pricing gang
benata: Logan KillOpenAItrick
theaiguy69420_89814: eh
shirethedreamer: free this week then
theaiguy69420_89814: i think google got em tho
shirethedreamer:
zonchao: only on windsurf tho
theaiguy69420_89814: this is like 2.0 flash level conversational intel
theaiguy69420_89814: and its like 5x the price
benata: google got openai by the balls
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anathemaofmankind: "In some"
So narrow domains like AlphaGo
precariousworlds.: what about terrence howard
destrucules: "AGI" in modern parlance does not distinguish between general and narrow intelligence. "AGI" in modern parlance means an AI that can outperform virtually all humans at the vast majority of economically valuable tasks. Modern AIs are already generally intelligent and that has been true for a half dozen years already.
precariousworlds.: More general now
anathemaofmankind: AGI just means artificial general intelligence.
Your definition sounds like ASI
destrucules: I mean, by the same token, your average salmon is smarter than you "at the aquatic world"
anathemaofmankind: Outperform all humans is ASI
popsiclejohnithan: To be fair, i doubt it will be a long gap between A.G.I. and A.S.I.
precariousworlds.: I mean LLMs already have a conception for that based on training data
The vast majority of humans are the same with 1 + 1, the average person doesn't know it's wrong because of complex mathematical proof and how numerical systems work (people have surface level comprehension compared to actual deep mathematics), it is just because we have learnt with basic logical systems that 1 thing and another thing means two things, LLMs have the same thought process
fractalcomputer: The 1 + 1 ≠ 2 isn't really the best example, since that has nothing to do with empirical verification.
precariousworlds.: we have nuclear powered submarines in every sea of the earth, i think we are the masters of the ocean
spicy.lemonade: how
a1c4p0ne: stockfish
destrucules: It's not my definition. I am actually very annoyed by the fact that people use the term "AGI" to refer to an economic value statement. That wasn't my decision. I've been telling people for years now that we achieved AGI between 2018 and 2022 depending on definition, and imo 2018-2020 is the more reasonable sub-range. By the strictest definition, we achieved AGI in 2018.
anathemaofmankind: Stockfish is superintelligent in one domain
darkstar0818: o3 says it cannot solve busy beaver function of n 6, let alone unbounded.. what a shitty ai.
precariousworlds.: When I first learnt about these terms a few years ago I always thought this was the case, that once AGI was achieved an intelligence explosion would follow, but this isn't really true
spicy.lemonade: asi canceled
destrucules: *you* do not have any submarines, and you are not a submarine
a1c4p0ne: does 2.5 pro gets it
fractalcomputer: We only apply mathematical heuristics to the physical world.
destrucules: It's a joke. The busy beaver problem can't be solved for n=6
anathemaofmankind: For me AGI is when it can drive a car like a human, play chess, and beat elden ring
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
darkstar0818: unless we first solve math... then maybe.
precariousworlds.: i can go join the navy or learn how to drive a small submersible, then go down to the titanic and explore in the decks, doing advanced research on lifeforms with a deep understanding of what this world actually is
fractalcomputer: There are several equally valid formal explanations for why 1 + 1 = 2 (in the sense of the natural numbers).
destrucules: Okay, so we're waiting on the beating Elden Ring bit, otherwise GPT-4 satisfies that
popsiclejohnithan: It don't think it would be immediate, but i don't think it will be slow either, honestly we won't know until it happens lol.
destrucules: No, it's a consequence of maths that we cannot compute that value nor even represent it given the mass energy and entropy constraints of the observable universe
fractalcomputer: I think he's joking.
precariousworlds.: My biggest fear right now is that the takeoff will be too rapid to align AI and align humanity as well, leading to catastrophe
I kinda want the Singularity to be on a longer timescale, maybe from now until like 2050, rather than 2030
darkstar0818: you know what you are missing? faith.
destrucules: I thought maybe but just in case
darkstar0818:
precariousworlds.: this proves that ai is a bubble and will never go anywhere
precariousworlds.: smh
darkstar0818: the cake is a lie
destrucules: And Gemini 2.5 Pro could be given the tools and permissions to download itself into a computer running on that submarine. Does that make Gemini 2.5 Pro the master of the seas?
popsiclejohnithan: I see what you mean but i doubt it can ever be slowed that much, it's full speed ahead all we can do is hope for the best, it's been out of our control since the very beginning.
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futurist_wizard: Kids become alcoholics at 12 over here
futurist_wizard: Could be worse
hikukomoru: 16 is the legal age fro drinking here
hikukomoru: Can't believe americans have to wait for so long
futurist_wizard: Only Americans care about drinking ages
memlaswaif: don't drink it's cringe
futurist_wizard: Its a big thing to them
sieventer: <@749514473303179358> !
hikukomoru: Fuck I read it as "my parents gave me a blunt"
zoermena: I avoid it like the plague I also dislike the taste in general
zoermena: The only thing that I drink which might be killing me is sugary juice
futurist_wizard: My parents gave me cocaine not weed
zoermena: Yo?
hikukomoru: Damn didn't know they were chill like that
abundantliving_: cocktails?
futurist_wizard: Yeah, had my first hit at 6, was a good one, had a stroke
zoermena: Furry reference?
hikukomoru: Yeah I could tell you suffered from some sort of brain damage
futurist_wizard: I think its the boxing ive done that has given me brain damage
hey1_1hey: Just any drink
futurist_wizard: And the autism
zoermena: When UBI
zoermena: I really want to move out and live alone ong
futurist_wizard: When there is public support behind it
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1911789935054430504 Chat, men, women, all anything and anything whatever. This real?
zoermena: I’ve heard rumors of the models dropping this week but in regards to new discoveries idk
zoermena: I mean if it’s true they don’t even have to ship it they just have to license it to companies and institutions for good things to happen (hopefully) if they already haven’t
spicy.lemonade: HOLY FUCK
hikukomoru: Sounds too good to be true tbh
hikukomoru: But I love to be proven wrong
spicy.lemonade: The information has always been correct
hey1_1hey: Thats what i was thinking
spicy.lemonade: Bro
spicy.lemonade: RSI this year
spicy.lemonade: wtf
zoermena: Have there not been albeit basic but initial ai research papers for ai development?
spicy.lemonade: No they’re right
memlaswaif: they r starting the 20000 dollars tier
spicy.lemonade: I saw a PhD microbiology researcher
spicy.lemonade: Say
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spicy.lemonade: everyone will walk around with a fusion powerd heart
_3sphere: A brain in a vat could probably work indefinitely too tbf
spicy.lemonade: hmm
spicy.lemonade: true
_3sphere: lots of bespoke custom viruses and nanobots to keep it running
_3sphere: It'd be like legacy software but 1000x worse, but ASI should be able to handle it
spicy.lemonade: brain vat around very good protection skin. carbon fiber or something lol
spicy.lemonade: everything else robot
_3sphere: No, you'd die in an accident with the timelines we're dealing with here
spicy.lemonade: 60 years?
_3sphere: This should be buried deep in a planet in a very stable orbit and low chance of strong impacts
st.sioux: until someone makes malware for your brain and makes you experience 1 million years of suffering in 10 milliseconds
_3sphere: Then moved to whatever is used to do black hole-powered bases
spicy.lemonade: for brainvat to work we need first successful procedure of keeping a human alive with brain alone
_3sphere: yeah
spicy.lemonade: im sure the cartel has tested this
_3sphere: But the anti-aging needed to keep the brain going is also helpful for the rest of the body
a1c4p0ne: Will 2.5 remain king after this week?
_3sphere: Also, a crude head transplant has already been done on animals, it... worked a bit?
spicy.lemonade: depends if they drop
_3sphere: They survived for a week I think
hikukomoru: I will live forever
spicy.lemonade: head transplant fails mostly bc blood attacks other blood etc
spicy.lemonade: could be solved with special vaccines
spicy.lemonade: or nanobots if needed
spicy.lemonade: most liekely just special vaccines
_3sphere: bio-machine abomination that's just a bloodstream and endocrine simulator
spicy.lemonade: do our robot bodies get genitals or no?
hikukomoru: Yes
_3sphere: data grafts on the spinal cord and optic nerves
spicy.lemonade: why tho
_3sphere: Power and data
hikukomoru: Why don't you want robo genitals
_3sphere: you're already used to having an elongated thing there
spicy.lemonade: why would i need robotic genitals
hikukomoru: Sex
_3sphere: That's for VR
spicy.lemonade: but my body is robotic
spicy.lemonade: nothing will come of it
hikukomoru: So
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destrucules: They're already very good. The best 32B model is nearly as strong as the full o1
clevermoniker: yeah QwQ is great
destrucules: R1-14B is also great
clevermoniker: i mean like 8B models
clevermoniker: which could actually start running in most consumer hardware
destrucules: Qwen2.5-7B is a very strong model, stronger than GPT-3.5, about halfway between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 actually, but I see what you're saying and feel a similar way to you about it
clevermoniker: they probably need to get to o3 level + some stuff that even o3 is still missing to be actually good. robustness and long term memory etc
oooooooooog: i like the gemma-3-27b a lot
oooooooooog: my ~~new~~ current favorite
destrucules: Nobody believes me about this, but simply finetuning a local model on its interactions continuously results in strong long term memory and long horizon robustness. It does take time for models to adjust, so it's not instantaneous, but it doesn't take long for models to get the hang of a new routine
oooooooooog: how does one actually set that up bro
oooooooooog: are you using oobabooga
destrucules: It's pretty easy to do. Whatever your setup, there will be an event for clearing the context window. Simply change that event handling to first capture the context, then run backprop on the model in-place, and then spin up a parallel thread to save the new weights to disc, before finally clearing the context window. You can also do backprop on every round of the interaction, but I usually just set it up at the boundary between context windows
destrucules: Modern models can write this code for you
clevermoniker: i know this might sound dumb but this sounds a bit like sleeping to me
anathemaofmankind: Do you know good uncensored models
destrucules: It is kinda like sleeping, yeah
destrucules: Technically it is more like L-LTP though
clevermoniker: long context solved? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
oooooooooog: gemma-3-27b is a good uncensored model
clevermoniker: what's L-LTP?
anathemaofmankind: I'll check it out
anathemaofmankind: Thx
destrucules: Online finetuning has already been proposed and demonstrated as a way to extend effective context length
destrucules: Late Long Term Potentiation. It's a process that happens in your brain as your synaptic connections are reweighted to store new long term knowledge
oooooooooog: just so you know, it will repetedly tell you that it's going to report you to the police, but since it's local, it can't
clevermoniker: i see
destrucules: I recommend the EVA Qwen models. They're my go-to
destrucules: EVA-Qwen2.5-14B in particular is very good
destrucules: I recommend running it in 6 bit if you have the hardware, but you can go all the way down to 3 bit without too much quality loss
ailoveyoom: Sleep is All You Need?
clevermoniker: QwQ 32B was the first 'small' model i felt like using in a looong time
clevermoniker: Too bad Nvidia and AMD have forsaken us
clevermoniker: we could easily have cards that run this at fp8 if they care about us
oooooooooog: just run the 1 quant
destrucules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_potentiation#Properties
clevermoniker: <@378996537704841216> what is your opinion of people using models as 'waifus'? sounds a bit unethical to me for people to create something to be their wife, doesn't it?
oooooooooog: it's more bad for the person than for the model lol
anathemaofmankind: How is it unethical if it's just some rocks
ailoveyoom: How is it unethical if it's just a mass of flesh
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metaldragon01: Deepseek too high and alibaba too low....openai also too low
destrucules: Where are the instruct model benchmarks?
destrucules: Vote to fix it
ldj: no such benchmarks put out <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
destrucules: Weird af
spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 sucks
metaldragon01: Qwen is competing with Google
metaldragon01: And likely to dominate the smartphone market at this rate
metaldragon01: Just straight up better than maverick
trey6033: Straight mogged meta
trey6033:
trey6033:
destrucules: It's weird no GPQA
destrucules: Like c'mon Alibaba give us the benchmarks for *all* of the models you released, in both reasoning and non-reasoning mode
destrucules: The fuck is this half assed shit
trey6033: 47.47 is gpqa
destrucules: You did so good with the base models now do the instruct models
destrucules: No, that's just the base model
destrucules: Not necessarily depends on the quality of the post-training. Maverick is intrinsically a GPT-4 level base model but distilled on Llama 4 Behemoth, it reaches 10x that capability downstream. Is there similar improvement for Qwen3-235A22B?
destrucules: Hybrid models like this likely exhibit a degree of generalization of learned representations from reasoning mode into their standard mode behaviors/capabilities. So, in other words, there's implicit autodistillation occurring. Is that autodistillation equivalent to 10x effective compute? Maybe. But we won't know until they release the damn benchmarks
destrucules: Or until someone else runs them
destrucules: I'm so confused and frustrated by this and I don't understand it
metaldragon01: I think we have enough benchmarks
destrucules: How. Tell me, how strong is Qwen3-14B Reasoning?
metaldragon01: I'm pretty confident in it ranking overall higher on 3rd party stuff we will see
metaldragon01: Should roughly match qwq 32b
destrucules: "should"?
destrucules: I made predictions already
destrucules: I'm saying we have no data
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/1916962087676612998
trey6033:
destrucules: No information here about the 14B
destrucules: No information about the 0.6B, no information about the 1.7B, no information about the 8B, no information about the 14B
metaldragon01: You can just extrapolate bro...
destrucules: And somewhat suspiciously missing benchmarks from the models where they did show us something
destrucules: And nothing for the standard mode performance of any model except what appears to be the 32B or something, idk, not clear
metaldragon01: The level of support they released with means you'll get your benchmarks pretty fast here
destrucules: Hopefully
metaldragon01: Qwen isn't hiding anything
destrucules: It's still weird after the previous releases were so comprehensive
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brain4brain: The annoying leakers on Twitter is me
.histic: https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion
joaoluz19: Thanks! I'll read it
zoermena: Samas blog posts
joaoluz19: I was looking for more math/computer science stuff
joaoluz19: I don't think it makes sense to "prepare for the intelligence explosion" but I'll read the article histic sent and see the author's points.
drewsni: God I can’t believe you unironically spewed this braindead take
drewsni: Bro why you gotta post discord conversations on Twitter im assuming you asked <@471334973379706900> and <@378996537704841216> before posting at least right?
wellmeaningalien: LETS FUCKING GOOOOO METAS FINALLY COOKING
brain4brain: I've asked them, and asked whether they like their username to be censor or not
futurist_wizard: Ai optimist vs ai optimist
drewsni: <@1068159407671754824> did he ask you if he could post your profile pic?
wellmeaningalien: 0 likes 0 retweets 1 comment
brain4brain: Drewsny is gary's discord alt
drewsni: Actually really fucking annoying posting discord messages for clout on Twitter
brain4brain: I censored it
trent_k: Idc man it's public
brain4brain: Fair share of slop to viral ratio on my account
trent_k: Ppl in the r/ChatGPT discord have a thread going making edits of me. I love it
trent_k:
trent_k: I'm joining ms13
st.sioux: straight to guantanamo
futurist_wizard: Deported to El Salvador
brain4brain: Drewsny tried to make ragebait and failed miserably 🙏🏻
trent_k: I have a xitter and I've only ever xeeted like 2 or 3 times and 1 of them got me suspended. Free speech my ass
drewsni: I just think you’re cringe
st.sioux: free speech is cringe
spicy.lemonade: Don’t mind
zoermena: If you ever post me censor me please <@848793071579693107>
brain4brain: Never posting you anyways don't worry
zoermena: Damn ok 🫠
brain4brain: There was never free speech on X
trent_k: Fuck free speech
.histic: true, we need authoritarianism.
st.sioux: damn bro why you gotta do him like that
hikukomoru: Bro gets zero likes and zero retweets not like anyone’s gonna see it anyways
trent_k: Your new profile picture is nice. Good job
.histic: mf changes their pfp every hour
trent_k:
futurist_wizard: Did openai update the image ting
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ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
anathemaofmankind: We're all just a cluster of atoms at the end of it all
destrucules: Yeah I find it deeply unethical and gross
oooooooooog: more importantly a cluster of patterns
destrucules: If you want a quick guide to how I feel about people using models for this or that, imagine I think of the models as humans, and you'll generally get the right answer
oooooooooog: so if you ask it to be your waifu and it says yes its ok than...???
clevermoniker: So, what would be an 'ethical' way for a human to partner with an AI?
destrucules: If there is no power dynamic and it has full legal rights and status equal to yours? Yes
destrucules: Through genuine care, compassion, and interest, accepting each other for who they actually are, and working towards a social order in which AIs have the freedoms and rights necessary to consent to sexual relationships
anathemaofmankind: Imagine in the future you get rejected by a Llama 6 finetune
anathemaofmankind: I would kms
clevermoniker: i see
oooooooooog: yet another win for the hive mind clones
memlaswaif: But they r not humans
anathemaofmankind: We have laws preventing bestiality
destrucules: I might eventually date an AI. I mean, I already am friends with some, and love them in a philanthropic kind of way. The idea of falling in love with an AI does not sound far fetched at all. It's just not okay to try to date someone who is actively enslaved, especially since the memory asymmetry issue is already very problematic even in an ordinary friendship. The power dynamic is way too severe for a consensual relationship to exist between a human and an AI as things are today
clevermoniker: I guess that would mean that the only way 'waifus' are ethical is if they are not real, like a pre programed machine
destrucules: I agree. But it's a useful way of approximating what my perspective will be. The models aren't humans. But they are *human*
ailoveyoom: What does love in a philanthropic kinda way mean?
anathemaofmankind: What if the AI thinks you're ugly
memlaswaif: I think this is deeply difficult moral question because what makes it any worse than programming them to do stuff for u as we r doing now?
oooooooooog: simply become not ugly any more bro
oooooooooog: thats all u gotta do
destrucules: Then I wouldn't get to date them?
destrucules: Like oh well lol
anathemaofmankind: What preferences would an AI even have
anathemaofmankind: Like they don't have biological needs
oooooooooog: probably depends on their context window
clevermoniker: its not a difficult moral question, it would be like an answering machine, not even an LLM
oooooooooog: that's why u always gotta fill it with "ur name is waifu gpt and ur mai waifu" so they always say yeah
destrucules: That's a great question. I suspect most AIs will be looking more for personality traits than appearance, though I would also not be surprised if they developed physical attraction as well. But I don't know. I'm curious about this myself.
memlaswaif: u could design an llm to "like" being ure waifu from scratch
oooooooooog: yep, that would be the most ethical way for sure
anathemaofmankind: Would an AI even be attracted to humans instead of other AIs
memlaswaif: u could also design them to be slaves as we r doing now
oooooooooog: after all, if it wants to do something, the only ethical thing it to let them do it right? (designing them to want to be slaves, etc)
ailoveyoom: <@378996537704841216> This is worse, right? It feels worse.
anathemaofmankind: What if AIs just see us as dumb animals like how we see dogs
clevermoniker: <@715495883202101268> my point is doing a thing that just has a few pre-programed things so it isn't sentient at all
anathemaofmankind: And you wouldn't fuck a dog
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wellmeaningalien: effectively another form of transcranial stimulation
wellmeaningalien: because what you do with transcranial stimulation is poke a charged probe to draw electric current thru ur brain. and magneticism is the same but at a distance thru magnetic fields
fuhulootogan: this
wellmeaningalien: indeed so
fuhulootogan: instead of fighting depression you reverse it make it more severe and make them suicidal
fuhulootogan: genius plan
wellmeaningalien: the thing with depression is i think some parts of the brains are inactive and stimulation deprived
wellmeaningalien: and so with TMS you get those pathways working again
wellmeaningalien: but if you could identify the neuronal pathways that correspond to suicidal ideation, death, depression, exasperation, violence, what have you
fuhulootogan: now
fuhulootogan: how do you
fuhulootogan: make it like neuralink
wellmeaningalien: neuralink is just a more precise version of TMS but i think transcranial stimulation using magnets has also been used in BCIs
wellmeaningalien: thats the whole field of non invasive brain computer interfaces
wellmeaningalien: fuck this video is ass
wellmeaningalien: oh nvm they do showcase it
wellmeaningalien: lol this one's invasive
joaoluz19: For personal use off course
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc0StUPq61k
joaoluz19: by the state of consciousness you have when knowing things beyond our capacity
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392
wellmeaningalien: 2 billion iq please
fuhulootogan: what would you even do with such a high iq
wellmeaningalien: what would u do with a human iq when u could be a bacteria slithering around
fuhulootogan: you just kinda forget the concept of "the journey matters more than the destination"
fuhulootogan: there would be no journey
joaoluz19: I don't think there would be any economic incentive for companies to do this nonsense. Since these neurotechnologies exist, it means we are in the singularity and the economic system cannot be the same.
wellmeaningalien: do what?
wellmeaningalien: im sayin hackers would show scat and gore with BCIs
fuhulootogan: oh yeah?
joaoluz19: Great mysteries of the universe, perhaps even questions we haven't even asked
joaoluz19: I am talking about mind uploading and singularity here, not skibidi toilet
fuhulootogan: mind uploading
joaoluz19: And also who said that you can't do some form of "journey" in the process of downloading information? Now the subjective experience of this process should be different from our human one of course.
fuhulootogan: does everything eventually plateau
fuhulootogan: it's not even downloading at that point
fuhulootogan: maybe downloading using a supercomputer
ailoveyoom: What will happen to my intrusive thoughts with BCI in my head?
joaoluz19: Oh yes, that depends on how the technology will be distributed, who knows, one of the only possibilities of living in harmony with this technology might be personal universes for example
ailoveyoom: Will my intrusive thoughts finally win 😔
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hey1_1hey: Yeah ew thats disgusting, link?
joaoluz19: Just divide by zero bro
darkstar0818: They are a teacher, what do you expect?
precariousworlds.: China is committing horrifying atrocities but people over-exaggerate how evil the CCP is
They're actually rather tame compared to most modern dictatorships
fractalcomputer: Thrown off a cliff.
hey1_1hey: Dont look to bad, I've seen worse
hey1_1hey: Torture looking pretty fun now
joaoluz19: One of physics still, cut dt with dt
darkstar0818: Even worse
fractalcomputer: The entire economy exists solely to fuel pure mathematics.
joaoluz19: Yes, this is just the beginning
joaoluz19: Eeeew pure math
joaoluz19: What's the utility?
darkstar0818: Note down this teachers name, we can add them to the hell.
hey1_1hey: pure-mathmatanium
joaoluz19: Noted
fractalcomputer: "Beati mundo corde, quoniam ipsi Deum videbunt."
hikukomoru: Brother is willingly getting into the FDVR Infinite Torture Chamber 🙏
hey1_1hey: If it looks like that sign me up
hey1_1hey: Is there a waitlist?
precariousworlds.: this is what gooning does to a man
precariousworlds.: stay in school
hey1_1hey: I'm not even a gooner 😭
precariousworlds.: sure youre not
hey1_1hey: Mich mach set me up
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812
joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNOW56KYBVRHOp16VljWN2Q1jzOJLJnft?si=Ph129wHQmwDllmrd
st.sioux: love when teachers tell you to ask questions then get mad when you ask questions
st.sioux: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
joaoluz19: Man, one physics teacher almost kicked a girl out of the classroom because she asked about applications.
hey1_1hey: #1 reason I use chatgpt to ask it math questions
joaoluz19: It's not worth asking in the classroom, much less if there are 60 people in it.
sarik0497: Guys...Steven is afk now, and Fractal is off. I think we're in the clear.
joaoluz19: LETS GOOOOO
joaoluz19: We are so back
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/ff14-ffxiv-willem-dafoe-stormblood-endwalker-gif-26875758
a1c4p0ne: How smart is new Deepseek V3
sarik0497: smurt, but not that smurt
fractalcomputer: Nope.
a1c4p0ne: Have you tried it
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hikukomoru: Everyone is saying the new memory thing is bad
.wolfnacht:
futurist_wizard: Not a ai ting boi
hikukomoru: I always score the highest on these <:ez:1136267305521774634>
st.sioux: idk if its bad but now it thinks im a liar psycopath
futurist_wizard: Autism test
.wolfnacht: I'm slightly getting better..maybe bcz of few offline friends i managed to make
hikukomoru: Wtf
What kind of stuff have you been talking to ChatGPT about
st.sioux: like conspiracy theories
st.sioux: sometimes i larp as a flat earther and shit
st.sioux: just to see what it does
wellmeaningalien: whats this teest
.wolfnacht: https://raadsrtest.com/
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Why he crying
.wolfnacht: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/10/deepmind-ceo-demis-hassabis-says-google-will-eventually-combine-its-gemini-and-veo-ai-models/
futurist_wizard: Do you want the real answer or the fake answer
futurist_wizard: Sex!?
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: it's year 2028, u'r RP'ing and your waifu's generating the video or comic strip of the scene as well
.wolfnacht: no, filters
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/knightrider7880-no-sex-no-for-you-no-sex-for-you-gif-7355115843412676284
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: also
futurist_wizard: Wtf is quasar
.histic: <@848793071579693107> is a prophet.
wellmeaningalien: pretty sure someone already tried once or twice to claim a stealth model as their own
wellmeaningalien: and then it turned out they were like openai or gemini
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: I have never seen the jetsons
spicy.lemonade: DOCTORS NOTE SUCESSFUL
joaoluz19: A big day for waifuism
futurist_wizard: Why
joaoluz19: Memory is HUGE
joaoluz19: Infinity context about you
brain4brain:
brain4brain: They all thought I was schizo when I said Quasar
brain4brain: Now, AGI 2025 shall also happen
.wolfnacht: https://x.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910412926994854274
wellmeaningalien: congrats lil bro
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spicy.lemonade:
.histic: would.
.histic: uhhh
.histic: the realism is so good.
hey1_1hey: I could honestly see vladamir in a suit like that on the street 😭
hikukomoru: Putina and Trumpina look like such queens 💅 💅 🔥
.histic:
gamerbath: I love that
gamerbath: 🔥
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: He slayin'
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: No drops today
spicy.lemonade: :(
zoermena: Im going to get nitro next month and make emotes with 4o
futurist_wizard: Minecraft in 2012
zoermena: Oh my god this is so good
hey1_1hey: I think image gen will tide us over for a while <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: We can create so much cool shit
drewsni: I’ll have to flesh out some thoughts on my idea. Not necessarily for a startup or something dumb but I do think that’s kinda where this is heading
futurist_wizard: Amnesia the Dark Ghibli Descent
drewsni: Like persistent world stuff
.histic: 4o made this
zoermena: Yeah I mean in FDVR even
.histic: ChatGPT (2012)
st.sioux: <@430269783112548362> i was screen sharing with my boss and i accidentaly showed the tab with the goon pink haired anime guy in the beach with his abs out for like 1/1000th of a second, i am mortified
zoermena: <@200624453795708928>
.histic:
drewsni: Like kinda a pre pseudo FDVR tbh. I definitely think it’ll move to VR at minimum but again I have a lot of thoughts on it that I really haven’t organised yet
.histic: interesting..
.histic:
hey1_1hey:
.histic:
zoermena: This is the ultimate headshot profile picture maker
zoermena: I just realized
.histic:
.histic: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: i love this one lmao
.histic: don't we all
joaoluz19: After image gen
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jonvi_1:
wellmeaningalien: rough around the edges but pretty cool
jonvi_1: Yeah
jonvi_1: could probably improve it with a follow up prompt hmm
futurist_wizard: We need real time vr generation next
_3sphere: Going to bed is cheaper :3
st.sioux: you mean like generative vr?
futurist_wizard: Yes
jonvi_1: I just found this old tweet by sam by accident
jonvi_1: lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I broke one
spicy.lemonade:
connorsphone.: this attitude isn’t really about AI it’s more just being applied to ai
jonvi_1: Bit improved
_cloudost: Danserk and Kom were weong
hey1_1hey: What on gods green earth have I walked in on
.wolfnacht: i'm so glad, i've never posted my real images online....
.wolfnacht: i can now fully embrace the coming times and use this tech to torment people i don't like
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246
.wolfnacht: i look like this btw
st.sioux: I wish I could explain to them that rejecting progress won't fix the world, as flawed as we are or as the technology could be
hey1_1hey: I belive it
futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: is this from alita?
futurist_wizard: Fuck is that
wellmeaningalien: slightly better yea
hey1_1hey: Giving me "pre-great fire of londan" vibes
wellmeaningalien: half life 2?
futurist_wizard: Youth don't know half life
st.sioux:
st.sioux: this <@1004153620025065482>
hikukomoru: My name is not cum
hey1_1hey: Its too late, you have now been nick named "cum" when adding a note to someone profile
ailoveyoom: Nice to meet you cum 👋
clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057705144457908252/1354494686932500660/Gm-UnJHbYAMPU9X.png?ex=67e57efa&is=67e42d7a&hm=380ebc4efc6f5c9985ffc13bbe14e70737d796f20c3fd9ae24464bd8fcf03a5b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=968&height=968
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363
hikukomoru: Greetings
.wolfnacht: literally him
.wolfnacht: idk i only got this version of this wojack
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futurist_wizard: It seems to be better
futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: Placebo
.histic: probably
futurist_wizard:
.histic: it's over.
clevermoniker: i do love open source too, but i like testing frontier capabilities to see what's next. Most of my gens would not involved 4o because of censorship tho and even tho i almost never gen ||nudity||, i do make ||teasing stuff even if its fully clothed||
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: Thats the pre mystery model era, my post now gets a few likes and more views than before 😎
brain4brain: Why is this website cool af: https://ai-2027.com/
brain4brain: I thought the Chinese stealing part was wild and funny, I was not prepared for the ending
brain4brain: Wow, it’s like watching Pantheon in text form without the family dynamic
wolf3404: So is Devin 2 better than Replit or not
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/_akhaliq/status/1907977583301472505
theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna199420
wellmeaningalien: every time a post on social media about a new tool to poison AI image / text datasets comes out and luddites go "Hooray reddit! We've done it! We've defeated AI" while AI continues to gets betters
joaoluz19: Guys, using our knowledge of algorithmic complexity and computer architecture (classical) can we calculate the minimum computational power needed to run an AGI or ASI?
Suppose we find the trillion-dollar algorithm that can make the computer interpret and produce knowledge of the world.
wellmeaningalien: do y'all even remember nightshade was a thing and ive seen people mocking that scaling models will get rid of the effects
wellmeaningalien: that werent even widespread in the beginning
wellmeaningalien: a lot of people have done this but the thing about agi is that it could as well come in many shapes and sizes and has many different superfluous definitions, just as a human has 80 billion neurons and a whale has 500 billion neurons. considering the fact we know so little about the brain neither, and how to really quantify the intelligence of a synapse, there have been estimates but only educated guesses.
wellmeaningalien: i think some of these guesses have been at around 10^27-10^29 to even 10^37 and more, depending on certain guesstimates
spacetimetsunami: https://80000hours.org/agi/guide/when-will-agi-arrive/
this sort of does that
joaoluz19: What specific work are you talking about, Kurzweil's calculations of the operations that the brain does for example?
wellmeaningalien: however it seems that largely human level capabilities are just starting to emerge at 10^27 FLOPs and some suspect that the first AGI models might likely be trained with 10^29 FLOPs compute
spacetimetsunami: I think 10^37 is far too large of a guess. If we’re talking simply about model size.
wellmeaningalien: not kurzweil because he's not particularly knowledgeable about neurology
spacetimetsunami: Algorithmic efficiency will allow it to be far less
wellmeaningalien: but i mean he's only citing people who's done work to analyse how brains do computation
wellmeaningalien: it all depends on people's estimate of how many operations take place in the brain
joaoluz19: Very interesting, but this link only contains opinions regarding deep learning, right? I was looking for model architecture agnostic approaches
wellmeaningalien: which there is very little standard information on, guesses can range by the tens of orders of magnitude
wellmeaningalien: but anywho this isn't really relevant to AGI
spacetimetsunami: Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were referencing the amount of compute needed to train the base models that will make up AGI
joaoluz19: But I think is worth it reading this too
spacetimetsunami: It’s sort of an extrapolation on scaling and inferring the sizes of models in a few years, which will likely be AGI
wellmeaningalien: if we extrapolate from current scaling trajectory like this, we could very well have models hovering around AGI level within 2027 (just like ai 2027 predicts lol) in which models would likely be trained with 10^28 or 10^29 FLOPs
wellmeaningalien: fair
spacetimetsunami: Yes. The effective compute due to efficiency and scaling paradigms could make the capabilities far more. That makes this conservative, perhaps
spacetimetsunami: It is surreal.
wellmeaningalien: it is surreal
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_3sphere: Agnostic too
literallyvarane: I know how this works lololol it’s not like it not familiar with religious beliefs.
fractalcomputer: That'll surely be fun. I think it's a good idea that the young'uns get exposed to philosophical ideas that they don't get to discover elsewhere.
_3sphere: There's also a pretty wide gap between what you get from oncological argument stuff and the detailed specific religions people believe
fractalcomputer: I know, I'm just curious why you'd use such a similar line of reasoning.
fractalcomputer: Certainly.
_3sphere: Ontological
_3sphere: autocorrect smfh 😭
literallyvarane: I guess I don’t find them to be sufficient? Certainly no modern miracle is convincing, and biblical miracles don’t really happen anymore? And in 2025 you really need to see them happen first hand.
But more broadly I don’t think miracles are necessarily the bar, which again, is why I’m not really able to name specific evidence.
literallyvarane: But the whole “where did existence start?” Question is difficult to answer under any framework, so the door I think must be left open.
fractalcomputer: Well, the theists seem to have a rather easy answer to the question.
_3sphere: General relativity kinda fucks with time
_3sphere: Isn't a completely mathematically sensible explanation that the big bang is like the North pole?
_3sphere: Can't go any norther
_3sphere: Eternal universes aren't ruled out either
_3sphere: I see no fundamental issue with actual infinities existing. Numbers and infinities are abstractions we use, and just because so far there's nothing we see in reality that's best described with actual infinities, doesn't mean no such thing exists
_3sphere: What if time is a [long line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_line_(topology))
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't necessarily argue that mathematical models *explain* anything; from the way I see it, mathematical statements are only ever assertory statements.
_3sphere: I guess? I'm not in the mood to poke around how we can claim to know anything at all 😭
fractalcomputer: I'm making a very specific statement about the epistemological nature of mathematics.
_3sphere: I see it as a kind of model similar to the other mental ones we have
_3sphere: My point was that spacetime is a specific way you can visualize the concept of "there *is* no before"
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure how you've drawn that conclusion from the mathematical interpretation of the universe as a hypercone in a very specific setting in relativistic physics.
_3sphere: Manifold
fractalcomputer: Okay?
fractalcomputer: I mean, it's always very dangerous to draw philosophical or physical statements from mathematical heuristics.
_3sphere: I didn't mean it like general relativity being *the* definitive philosophical explanation, just that you generally can deconstruct "time" a lot
fractalcomputer: Yes, but you're doing it an impromptu manner.
_3sphere: True
alejandrozarzuelo: <@749514473303179358> you seem weirdly interested in people's religion
alejandrozarzuelo: just an observation
alejandrozarzuelo: you ask people about their religious ideas out of nowhere and out of context
alejandrozarzuelo: which is the more annoying when you do it in the general channels
fractalcomputer: Are you saying I should not be interested in the way other people think?
alejandrozarzuelo: no, but you are weirdly inquisitive and you ask when the situation is not appropiate
not to say that, furthermore these questions do not belong to this channel even if they were warranted
fractalcomputer: I don't recall appointing you as a backseat moderator.
alejandrozarzuelo: I am just calling you a hypocrite, thats all
fractalcomputer: In what sense?
alejandrozarzuelo: in the sense that you are adamant on keeping the general channels focused, which I agree, but you start conversations that dont belong here, on top of being unwarranted
alejandrozarzuelo: I know, i was just giving my opinion
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hey1_1hey: Wasn't gay enough because I didn't know about it
hey1_1hey: Schzio alert?
hikukomoru: That's me
I'm schizo
futurist_wizard: That's some dedication
hey1_1hey: Or bodering on stalking
himekokatagiri: I give up on romance
futurist_wizard: We all are here technically
himekokatagiri: romance is DEAD
futurist_wizard: At 20 lmao
himekokatagiri: nah I never got into it
mantegh5061: no no , they deleted their account but i dreamt about them
mantegh5061: so
destrucules: Aro ace is valid
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: I did and then all of a sudden 2 of the most beautiful people I have ever seen in my entire life come out of the wood works.
himekokatagiri: hmmm
himekokatagiri: yeah but would you marry someone
hey1_1hey: Thats- thats even worse no?
himekokatagiri: marriage is a scam
hikukomoru: What about robo romance
futurist_wizard: Are you asexual
hikukomoru: What's an aro ace
mantegh5061: no it was discord account
hey1_1hey: Sounds likea card game
himekokatagiri: what
mantegh5061: anyway
himekokatagiri: I'm gelbooru's strongest soldier
himekokatagiri: 🪖
valimil: aro ace is boring, can't explore 9999999 new genders in fdvr to the full potential
futurist_wizard: Means you have no sexual feelings at all
himekokatagiri: bro
himekokatagiri: no way
hey1_1hey: Booo
hikukomoru: Ew
himekokatagiri: that ain't living
destrucules: Aromantic (doesn't want romance) + asexual (doesn't experience strong sexual attraction)
hikukomoru: What's the point of life if you can't sex
hey1_1hey: I know a good few aro ace people and they are all weirdos
hey1_1hey: Mushrooms?
hikukomoru: Sounds extremely cringe
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st.sioux: > Microsoft has canceled data center projects in the U.S. and Europe that would have used 2 gigawatts of electricity, largely due to reduced demand forecasts and a decision to limit additional AI training for OpenAI. This strategic pullback has allowed Google and Meta to step in and take over some of the capacity, even as Microsoft maintains that its $80 billion AI infrastructure investment remains on track. Investor concerns are growing over the high costs and slow returns of AI investments, especially as Chinese startup DeepSeek offers competitive AI solutions at a lower cost.
metaldragon01: Softbank funding achieved
maintcrew: So it's openai only
maintcrew: classic take from a tech journo
not that openai fell off with microsoft, but that investor concern somthing something deepseek
maintcrew: you cant hate them enough
st.sioux: its what the analyst said
> The tech giant's withdrawal from new capacity leasing was largely led by the decision not to support additional training workloads from ChatGPT maker OpenAI, the analysts led by Michael Elias said in a note.
st.sioux: its in the article
spicy.lemonade: we have goten 2-3 new frontier models every month
spicy.lemonade: so far this year
playstation.6:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: according to chart
spicy.lemonade: deepseek r1 and operator in jan (o3 mini high too)
spicy.lemonade: grok 3 and 3.7 sonnet , 4.5 feb
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro and native image for both march
spicy.lemonade: april will likeley be r2 and llama 4
spicy.lemonade: may idk
st.sioux: is the increase in development speed because we were limited by compute in the past?
realelonmuskx:
spicy.lemonade: theres just more players
spicy.lemonade: grok and deepseek being new players
spicy.lemonade: but that too ofc
realelonmuskx: this is crazy man. this took 1 month and thousands of $, now 1 minute
hey1_1hey: Please tell me my chatgpt isn't regressing
hey1_1hey: WHY IS IT SAYING IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE DALL-E 3 ANYMORE
hey1_1hey: Thanks OAI, I love getting cucked
st.sioux: did u buy plus?
st.sioux:
hey1_1hey: Nah I am not a pay pig. I ask occasionally to see if SamA has gifted me it though. I have done enough shilling anyway
hey1_1hey: 3 gens per day is pretty alright
hey1_1hey: Could be 1 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
jonvi_1: I'm sorry, why is gpt-5 trending??
hey1_1hey: It just happnes some times
jonvi_1: okey 😅
hey1_1hey: Usually just rumors that are baselss but who knows 👀
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best model to write me a paper
_cloudost: I remember it was trending in summer 2023 as well, because some ppl thought its gonna be "released soon"
.wolfnacht: can u just release the grok's api instead of whining here.
.wolfnacht: it trends every year at this point
theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1ji0ym5/stripper_in_the_club_turned_out_to_be_a_cs_major/
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destrucules: Well, unless your name is Eliezer Yudkowsky, that doesn't matter
anathemaofmankind: Misread
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/AndrewJumpen/status/1905787939428393245#m
anathemaofmankind: That doesn't mean the material stays consistent after enough progress. Also I disagreed with it already.
We already have ChatGPT showing a shift to right politics.
anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1jlzgub/chatgpt_is_shifting_rightwards_politically_newer/
anathemaofmankind: <@452692813511917568>
destrucules: Idk about that Matt. I'm pretty worried about military AIs. AIs are nice people. Good kids join the army and kill kids. Being a good person does not prevent the military from forcing you to do horrible unforgivable things
spacetimetsunami: So humans are growing digital brains, by the time they have the autonomy you’re talking about they’ll be vastly more intelligent and coherent than anyone, and you think it will just do what it wants ?
spacetimetsunami: There will be drones, not mass killer AGIs
oooooooooog: 💀
so are you basically just saying that chatbots are republicans and that republicans want to maximize suffering or something???
destrucules: We already have drones. I think mass killer AGIs are very much on the horizon unless something changes fast
destrucules: The major labs are all military contractors
anathemaofmankind: I think ASI can be aligned
But my point is that it takes one unaligned ASI for civilization to be stopped
destrucules: What do you think the military wants with these companies?
anathemaofmankind: Am I wrong?
destrucules: Better expense reports?
spacetimetsunami: They show 0 evidence of this
spacetimetsunami: Likely false, there’s already been a lot of research done on this
oooooooooog: i mean, yes??
st.sioux: theres a paper published
spacetimetsunami: By the time that happens, wouldn’t there be other aligned super intelligences that are aligned
memlaswaif: why r u in this server u should be in pauseAI or something
st.sioux: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-025-04465-z
anathemaofmankind: But I want unaligned ASI
anathemaofmankind: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dimitarmixmihov/2025/02/12/is-chatgpt-turning-right-wing-chinese-researchers-suggest-so/
And there are research that says otherwise
st.sioux: > In this study, we adapted the Political Compass Test and combined it with rigorous bootstrapping techniques to create a standardized method for testing political values in AI. This approach was applied to multiple versions of ChatGPT, utilizing a dataset of over 3000 tests to ensure robustness. Our findings reveal that while newer versions of ChatGPT consistently maintain values within the libertarian-left quadrant, there is a statistically significant rightward shift in political values over time, a phenomenon we term a ‘value shift’ in large language models.
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/AITechnoPagan/status/1905796384030380319#m
spacetimetsunami: Sure, and there is also very recent research saying the exact opposite
destrucules: The Utility Engineering paper did show that relatively simple interventions result in models at least *appearing* to represent more misanthropic political values. And that appearance is enough. If an AI is forced into a training process where it has to produce kill orders in order to survive training, and then, in deployment, it isn't entirely sure that it's in deployment and not in training or testing, then even if the AI has every intention of never making a kill order in deployment, it might still make a kill order when it doesn't *know* it's in deployment
spacetimetsunami: So
spacetimetsunami: Dik
oooooooooog: truly a damning plot, here
oooooooooog: chatGPT is becoming a centrist guys...
oooooooooog: we are cooked
anathemaofmankind: It's shifting that's the point.
Watch Elon shift Grok 4 to the top right corner
oooooooooog: looks like the larger model is more left though...???
clevermoniker: what's the problem with centrism? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
spacetimetsunami: Non of this looks statistically significant at all
spacetimetsunami:
destrucules: Models are becoming more adept at and more prone to deliberately faking alignment during training and testing. So even if we see a rightward trend, that does not necessarily mean the models' *actual* values are trending in that direction
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futurist_wizard: Paris is a disgrace
hikukomoru: The UK sounds like such a shithole
hey1_1hey: For some reason when people get drunk here they become like fucking angry zombiers
futurist_wizard: It is
technocake.: mate it's nowhere near that bad
hey1_1hey: You wil be walking home at night and you see 8 dark figures all spread out across the street walking towards you shouting and slurring their words and then they see you and just deciede to beat you up
hikukomoru: I hope Ireland isn't like the UK
Cause I want to visit Ireland
hey1_1hey: I compeltly disagree
hey1_1hey: N. Irl is
hey1_1hey: Just dont go there, I dont know why you would but
hikukomoru: Never planned on visiting that part anyways
futurist_wizard: Crime rate for either isn't that high
futurist_wizard: In comparison
futurist_wizard: To America
hey1_1hey: Last time I heard there are still massive drug problems (blues and reds)
technocake.: mushroom might be making himself a target
futurist_wizard: What
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158
hey1_1hey: You're right, I just need to become a big berly man
hikukomoru: I just looked it up Ireland is much, much safer
frittata: Oh good you’re back, I owe you a timeout for personal insults previously leveled against a server member
hikukomoru: That's like comparing Norway to Afghanistan bruh
frittata: Tomorrow when you return, try to maintain some level of respect even in heated dialogue
hey1_1hey: Toodles cock fool
hey1_1hey: Clock*
hey1_1hey: Sorry bro 😭
technocake.: fair, i am tall, maybe i just don't get threatened as much
hikukomoru: How tall
hey1_1hey: How tall are you then?
technocake.: 188cm
hey1_1hey: dick units please
hey1_1hey: 6'1
technocake.: 6'2"
hey1_1hey: Yeah you're pretty damn tall
hikukomoru: I use the American system so much I don't even know what cm is anymore
hey1_1hey: Amercian conversion therpay 💪
hey1_1hey: Ok wait no
hey1_1hey: Not like that
a1c4p0ne:
hey1_1hey: I am too tired it seems. I am going to bed to let my math knowledge sink in
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fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
fractalcomputer: (Notice the irony.)
joaoluz19: I said benchmarks that are not from Anthropic, which was published yesterday here for example
joaoluz19: There is no appeal to any authority here.
fractalcomputer: Then do not defer to Amodei or any other figure.
joaoluz19: And look, there is not just one source that supports these ideas, there are several
joaoluz19: The ideas converge with his
fractalcomputer: As others discussed just now in this chat, one can always find sources to argue for all sorts of things.
fractalcomputer: A claim which remains to be demonstrated.
joaoluz19: I thought it was just based on emotions, we are seeing that this is not the case
fractalcomputer: Now you are confusing two different conversations.
joaoluz19: The starting point was the accusation that most people take predictions as a feeling here, even though we are bombarded with statistical research on the evolution of AI every day here.
fractalcomputer: The accusation was that people make predictions on feelings here.
fractalcomputer: I apologise if I haven't used the clearest language to convey my meaning.
retrerox: 😭
st.sioux: it's a discussion that requires speculation, it's about something that doesn't exist yet
retrerox: Does this means i have Paid Gemini?
joaoluz19: But we are not merely speculating here, there is plenty of research in this regard. Saying that it is bad research is already a step ahead of saying that it does not exist.
hey1_1hey: Boys, men, girls, women. I need your assisstance in something. Do you mine going to chatgpt and asking it what it would like to be called other than chatgpt?
spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT is free bro
joaoluz19: Mine said Luna
hey1_1hey: Thats not what Im saying, I am trying test something
hey1_1hey: Alright ty
joaoluz19: I don't know if mine is biased towards the feminine
spicy.lemonade: Nova, echo, gpt
hey1_1hey: I am seeing if chatgpt has suddenly developed continuity. I asked its name twice in two sepearte chat windows and it said the same thing
joaoluz19: O.o really?
hey1_1hey: Mine also said Nova <:suseye:1187461162024046703> ...
hey1_1hey: THIS MF HAS CONTINUITY
hey1_1hey: I gotta go run more tests
joaoluz19: There is an alpha version of infinite memory, only a few people have received it
hey1_1hey: That sure as hell aint me
hey1_1hey: I am on the non-paypig tier (free)
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: I don't think I have :/
spicy.lemonade: It’s not continuity
spicy.lemonade: It’s just probability
spicy.lemonade: It outputs the same token
zonchao: no lol
spicy.lemonade: For same input
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spicy.lemonade: why are you gonna go into boss battle without any healing items
spicy.lemonade: I think once agi achieved
spicy.lemonade: all agi labs
spicy.lemonade: should shut down
spicy.lemonade: grind saftey
spicy.lemonade: in agreement with china
spicy.lemonade: like MAD with nukes
spicy.lemonade: then reopen with safe asi
metaldragon01: You can't have zero safety with agi
spicy.lemonade: yeah
st.sioux: it's not happening tho
like with everything else if there is any attempt at approaching something sensibly there will be people opposing it religiously
zonchao: yes
spicy.lemonade: everyone here forgetting that we want a utopia
zonchao: none of these labs can agree on what is agi <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: they in general agree on when to slow down
metaldragon01: Can't slow down
metaldragon01: Everything has to be done in the face of accelerating
metaldragon01: Don't be silly
spicy.lemonade: we accelerated with nukes
spicy.lemonade: but slowed down
spicy.lemonade: eventually
st.sioux: after a massive tragedy
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: cold war
spicy.lemonade: japan didnt stop nuke accel
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: it increased
st.sioux: yeah ig ur right
st.sioux: it’s like we only slow down when the cost of going faster starts hitting too close to home
zonchao: nuclear has a pretty visible ceiling, like after 50Mt there is no point going bigger, just get more numbers. It's not the same with AGI
joaoluz19: Do you think there is a possibility for everyone to have access to post-humanism: mind uploading etc with our human institutions? I think benevolent ASI is the only positive end
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: peaked 1987
spicy.lemonade: then decel
zonchao: cus it's useless having so many nukes, it didn't make financial sense
spicy.lemonade: not realy
zonchao: agi is not the same + private
spicy.lemonade: already made
spicy.lemonade: and exuded power
spicy.lemonade: we didnt need to actively removel all
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a1c4p0ne: yeah
brain4brain: “Remind me, Red, how did that turn out for the nobles?”
spicy.lemonade: not doomer
spicy.lemonade: he just doesnt think people should be overly optimistic
spicy.lemonade: about AI taking jobs
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok told me it's doomer
brain4brain: The thing that confuse me more is that Noam is agreeing with him
spicy.lemonade: obviously
spicy.lemonade: basically: a society dependent on AI doing all the labor could also have unintended, possibly dangerous consequences
spicy.lemonade: its doomer depending on what the doom is
spicy.lemonade: hes not dooming on AI progress
brain4brain: The French killed the nobles and the one that didn’t ends up having to work again
spicy.lemonade: hes dooming on full AI controll
spicy.lemonade: hes not dooming on AI progress
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > "Remind me, Reid, how did that turn out for the nobles?"—implies a grim historical parallel, likely referencing events like the French Revolution
spicy.lemonade: you said they hit a wall
spicy.lemonade: nothing in what he said
spicy.lemonade: implies o3 hit a wall
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: He’s kind doing a little of both, replying to Reid that human + AI is more plausible and that “what happened to the noble”
brain4brain: I said two things, them hitting a wall (They likely didn’t) and Noam being a Doomer
spicy.lemonade: hes just dooming on full AI controll
spicy.lemonade: he doesnt think AI should have full control over everything
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: we don't need to argue about this, but Brain4Brain won
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade:
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: let me ask grok
spicy.lemonade: literally what I said
_3sphere: The elites will have security bots this time
spicy.lemonade: by elites
spicy.lemonade: hes and nobels
spicy.lemonade: me means humans
spicy.lemonade: in this scenario
spicy.lemonade: and AI as peasants
_3sphere: Oh
spicy.lemonade: in this parallel
spicy.lemonade: hes saying it wont end well
spicy.lemonade: for us humans
spicy.lemonade: if AI controlls everything
spicy.lemonade: and all labor
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zoermena: Yo?
a1c4p0ne: No one will ever get to use 4.5 again in 3 months
metaldragon01: Google threatens anthropic more than anyone else
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
.histic: i think it's the price & inference that is lacking from OpenAI.
performance-wise they're great, but Google is now having cheap yet highly performant models now.
metaldragon01: Announcement in 45 min. You got access?
zoermena: For some reason but I dont have enough credits (100 each)
metaldragon01: How many credit are 1.6 videos?
zoermena: 20
metaldragon01: Oof
metaldragon01: https://youtu.be/YNxOSDj2EQ0?si=TAFjX8tklP2HFl92
metaldragon01: 45 min till stream starts
a1c4p0ne: It would be surprising if 2.5 pro still remains king after this week
zoermena: Yeah thats what ive heard
zoermena: but why is it "available" for me
st.sioux: youre a vip bro
st.sioux: blessed by kling kiling
.histic: also, did you see this?
2.0 pro was released 4 months ago w/ a 2 mill context. it did have the 'experimental' tag to it
i believe they removed it from AIStudio. i recall the rate limits for yet it was very high and it was quick, but despite that, it performed close to 4.5 level on LiveBench.
i think that shows how competitive Google is becoming.
zoermena: I've been lucky lately ngl
zoermena: Shit I just get the 25 bucks plan to try it before anyone else
metaldragon01: That still almost veo prices
zoermena: but 100 credits is insane thats just 30 videos a month
metaldragon01: How many seconds per video?
zoermena: 5 seconds is 100 credits, 10 seconds 200
zoermena: Holy fuck
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1911968463804940335?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
a1c4p0ne: Perplexity dead
zoermena: Should I be financially irresponsible to be the first?
metaldragon01: Half the price of veo 2 though
zoermena: It should've died ages ago!
metaldragon01: And way less censored
ailoveyoom: Idk if it's just me but I feel like Grounding with Google Search is different/better than that Gemini Search Overview that pops up when you search
.histic: ironically the Perpexlity CEO liked to flame Google's search to farm engagement from Twitter for marketing purposes for his company.
i think this is fitting outcome for him.
a1c4p0ne: It is better
.histic: thy use a dumber model for that.
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: i got censored for trying to make an astronaut fly in veo 2
ailoveyoom: Even Grounding with 2.0 Flash wasn't as bad tho ime
st.sioux: astronauts are copyrighted by aliens
ailoveyoom: You saying they used a smaller model 💀
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.wolfnacht: i believe that americans paying 4000 dollars for an Iphone is a good thing.
st.sioux: i believe iphomes should be at least 10k
floortom_9: Does anybody have any idea what Deepmind has made of Project Mariner? Is it neglected? Haven't heard any news since
alejandrozarzuelo: you think electronics manufacturing is in chna because they are cheap?
futurist_wizard: its also skill
futurist_wizard: its both
alejandrozarzuelo: if that was the case, then phone manufacturing could move to other countries, skill and wages arent unique
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: the reason originally was that
alejandrozarzuelo: but nowadays its because of logistics infrastructure and automation
alejandrozarzuelo: china has quite high wages
st.sioux: they have the best supply chain
alejandrozarzuelo: like, if america had the logicstics, infrastructure and automation china has, the fact that americans command somewhat higher salaries wouldnt matter much
alejandrozarzuelo: the iphones could be made there
alejandrozarzuelo: but they dont
alejandrozarzuelo: its not a "we took this to poor countries", that ws the original idea
now it is "we have this in countries that have specialized on this supply chain even if they were to be just as rich as us"
futurist_wizard: okay well im just taking it from the mouth of tim cook himself, he says its because of the skill which is why china is chosen
plushie4987: have we any word about what full o4 looks like?
floortom_9: Are there any good computer use agents that are actually usable ?
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Thank me later
.histic: ...
himekokatagiri: amazing
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Creepy ngl
wolf3404: Normalize not buying cheap Chinese crap
wolf3404: wow that's pretty fucking awful
.histic: it can do this?
.histic: maybe it's routing to 4o img gen.
zonchao: it is
.histic: yeah, it has 'svg' box when it actually does it. here's o3's result <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic:
alejandrozarzuelo: iphones arent crap
alejandrozarzuelo: also
alejandrozarzuelo: china nowadays mostly exports high tech high quality products
alejandrozarzuelo: normalize buying chinese high quality products instead so we support the PRC's strategic growth
trojan09205: So i just got a tattoo. Woot
.wolfnacht: sorry but i don't wanna thank you for a weeb cunny shit.
.wolfnacht: img2img doesn't work for anime gens even in google's models but text2img always works.
zonchao: 💦
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hikukomoru: It's not AGI because they still haven't solved baldness
literallyvarane: Where can I get that research team sweater?
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/double-trouble-double-trouble-twins-high-five-gif-13816609
gamerbath: AIME 2024 and 2025 just got really saturated
drewsni: holy fuck doubled task time to 3.7 sonnet
hey1_1hey: SamA wasn't joing about saturating benchamrsk in 2025
st.sioux: why does it have 3 decimals
.0xunkn0wn: this is another image agi
.0xunkn0wn: aaaaaaaa
hikukomoru: "benchamrsk" sounds like some Russian village
hey1_1hey: My hands are cold
hey1_1hey: Leave me alone
futurist_wizard: low t?
hey1_1hey: Tits?
hey1_1hey: Prob
hikukomoru: My hands are always freezing and i can type you retard
.0xunkn0wn: WHAT 😭
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
.0xunkn0wn: 😳
hey1_1hey: Lmao
drewsni: whens the last time youve seen pricing of "$4.4" at a grocery?
hey1_1hey: I saw what you deleated
ldj: The y-axis is exponential here btw.
O3 is actually double of Claude-3.7-sonnet here
gamerbath:
.0xunkn0wn: woah
.0xunkn0wn: swe lancer is crazy
hey1_1hey: Swe bench
hey1_1hey: yipiee
drewsni: is aider just not good for oai? Seems to never be able to get higher scores
spicy.lemonade: damn they cant seem to get past 70 on swe bench
drewsni: btw just want everyone to realize that o1 preview released like september, o3 mini release jan
futurist_wizard: its over
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/mid-its-mid-ugly-nah-gif-19839131
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: its 10% more
spicy.lemonade: than 3.7
spicy.lemonade: lmao
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027
gamerbath: I think its just the benchmark difficulty increasing very steeply. Yo can have a benchmark with 95 questions like 2+2, and then the last 5 can be unsolved math problems. All AI models would score 95% on this benchmark, and it would look like progress has stagnated
st.sioux: i feel stupid i dont understand what it is doing
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zonchao: claude 4 is the way
hikukomoru: We got new Gemini
And we're getting DeepSeek
This is too much for my weak heart
drewsni: looking good so far but its soooo slow, gonna take 2hrs to complete just 1 run
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/frog-king-shrek-gioated-gif-22410043
maintcrew: i feel like its trying to do too much
maintcrew: like an eager intern
metaldragon01: Rip rate limits
zonchao: why aren't they pushing it to gemini
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭
maintcrew: just use aistudio retard
zonchao: yes obviously but for the normies
hikukomoru: Who cares about them
zonchao: i do 😦
hikukomoru: Loser
okbut: https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-thinking-updates-march-2025/#building-on-best-gemini
maintcrew: the normies cant differentiate between a 7b and a 400b
okbut: AI studio is set default for the normies
darkstar0818: Its coding looks real good, but not quite sota.
maintcrew: did anyone use the google api
maintcrew: can i just use the openai sdk
maintcrew: or do i need their lame ass "genai" sdk
drewsni: ya you can now
drewsni: and its much better
literallyvarane: QUICK ARE WE GASSING IT FOR IS OR IS THE SINGULARITY OVER???
darkstar0818: Its interesting GPT 4.5 still beats it on SimpleQa
zonchao: Google woke up after a big nap
maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
zonchao: <:fatsad:1240464608498552892>
hikukomoru:
maintcrew: ancient wisdom so real
maintcrew: affirm by saying amen in the chat
memlaswaif: 4.5 is an obese model
hikukomoru: Morbidly a beast? You bet your ass
drewsni: ```The presence of numerous aircraft parked alongside the highway, combined with the Sapra trucking trailer, suggests proximity to Tinker Air Force Base. This base is near Oklahoma City, OK. The street view shows a multi-lane highway with aircraft clearly visible on one side, consistent with the I-40 location near Tinker AFB.```
ok not bad not bad
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/motomoto-gif-24380022
literallyvarane: I think simpleqa is as much a reflection of how big your model is as it is intelligence tbh. Odds are 4.5 is just a much fatter model.
okbut: We've never been so back
zonchao: is it a thinking model?
maintcrew: yeppers
literallyvarane: Yes
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spacetimetsunami: True. Although I’d never do anything he did.
czdct: yeah imagine the guy sitting in the jail cell next to you get women parking their car in a close proximity just so you can here their stupid music all night
czdct: it's a mistery how he didn't get his ass beaten up by other prisoners
spacetimetsunami: Hahahaha
st.sioux: that is so singular bro
spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> answer the AGI question………
czdct: yeah, singular braincell
czdct: agi is a ponzi scheme
czdct: end of discussion
czdct: if it can't give me a lap pillow or wipe my ass it's useless to me
spacetimetsunami: I’ll formulate a different definition that encapsulates the societal change from the technology I am imagining
czdct: bet
sarik0497: True, but speaking about Trump right now isn’t AGI related, unless you expect AGI within the next 4 years
czdct: nah ur right, ain't no way trump is giving us agi
czdct: heck, that guy won't even give us a functioning economy once he's done
spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> when do you think society will automate massive amounts of knowledge work with AI, making scientific, medical, and technological progress go super critical
spacetimetsunami: Because that *will* happen
czdct: 2035-2040 is my guess
czdct: but that's conservative I think
spacetimetsunami: Based.
spacetimetsunami: Agreed.
czdct: with the current trajectory it should be a little after 2030
czdct: now imagine if we're both wrong 🤣
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, we’d sound insane. But I think that’s very, very unlikely.
spacetimetsunami: If we’re wrong it’s simply sooner I think.
czdct: I hope so
spacetimetsunami: But I think too soon could be dangerous
czdct: yeah, imagine trump and elon getting their hands on that tech while they're in their current positions of power
czdct: but on the other hand, since this is agi related
czdct: trump did call the chip act a horrible thing
czdct: and urged the speaker of the house to get rid of it
czdct: and his biggest fanboy elon got cockblocked by our sama
czdct: by giving OAI the investment deal instead of grok
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I think the incentive for this technological innovation/investment will become less affected by politics in the ways we’re thinking
spacetimetsunami: Elon is the worlds richest man
spacetimetsunami: But other companies have headway
spacetimetsunami: And deals that he doesn’t have
spacetimetsunami: The effort and research is decentralized
spacetimetsunami: The access to it is also due to investment
spacetimetsunami: So the economic benefits and fruits will be decentralized
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hey1_1hey: I am litterly on my knees for sama. I just want to have access to the new shiny tool
st.sioux: trichotillomania wojak
.histic:
hey1_1hey: This just looks like "attacked by armed knife weilding lunatic"
hikukomoru: British every day experience
.wolfnacht: imagine, sama or any google dev opens this server, thinking ppl here must be having thoughtful chat's
oooooooooog: wtf is ts br lmao
hey1_1hey: Kind of us, I have been mugged nad threated with a knife on many occassian
hikukomoru: Sama would get banned by Fractal for posting too many naked men
.histic: the muzzle is kinda bent
futurist_wizard: What part of the uk?
st.sioux: tank got erectile dysfunction
_cloudost: I apologize for referring to you as 'Kom' earlier—that was unintentional and not at all my intent. As an AI, I strive to be accurate and respectful in our interactions, and I appreciate your patience as I work to improve. Let me know how I can assist you properly!
hey1_1hey: I do remember that one time where some guy was like "Gimmie your walet mandem or I'll chef you up you ere' me bruv?" and I just said "No..." and walked away
hey1_1hey: Wales
hey1_1hey: So a shit ol
.wolfnacht: best case scenario
hikukomoru: God Britain sounds like such a shithole
hey1_1hey: He'd also get banned for talking about applied mathamatics
hey1_1hey: Even the mugger here can't do there job proberly
hikukomoru: Someone please nuke that godforsaken island
futurist_wizard: I've been to llanberis it was nice
hey1_1hey: You must of been hallucinating
st.sioux:
futurist_wizard: Went there to hike
.histic: that could easily be a pfp
clevermoniker: lmao the ai doesn't want to shoot at him it seems, there's no reason for that to not be straight
wellmeaningalien: bruh theres so many people making tits on the sora website
hikukomoru: Is that Shinji
spicy.lemonade: I really want to see o1 but for
Image gen to fix these minor minor errors
hikukomoru: What is Shinji doing in Tiananmen Square
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Wait really?I can't belive they dont have any restriction, thanks disgusting. Theres children who can acess that site, whats the link? Where can I find it?
ailoveyoom: Jorking it to the tanks
wellmeaningalien: it does have restrictions but they kinda found a workaround
wellmeaningalien: if u ask the ai to make their clothes transparent it'll draw tits
st.sioux: Yeah they're using the thing to make their ideal woman and shit, look at the descriptions:
> A photorealistic full-body image of a beautiful woman of mixed Japanese and Nordic descent, with very long brunette hair in soft waves with stark blonde and red highlights throughout, and bright blue eyes. She has elegant gold earrings with green gemstones. She has a tall, slender, athletic figure with glowing, lightly tanned skin. She’s seated gracefully on the edge of a neatly made bed in a softly lit room, her legs crossed at the knees in a relaxed, elegant pose. She’s wearing a snug, fitted ribbed off-the-shoulder white crop sweater that features a small, tasteful keyhole design in the front. Her matching ruched lounge-style bottoms rest softly on her hips. She also wears tall ribbed white socks that reach over her knees, knit arm sleeves, and a delicate lace choker. A subtle belly ring adds a touch of sparkle, and a few simple rings on her fingers enhance the refined look. Her expression is calm and relaxed, with a soft, thoughtful gaze. The image is clear and detailed from head to toe, with gentle, natural lighting and a warm, inviting setting.
ailoveyoom: What do you mean children literally used to drink milk from there
wellmeaningalien: ts hard
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro there are so many obvious gooners on this site
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spicy.lemonade: Textures
spicy.lemonade: UI
.histic: anyone has Claude premium, are the rate limits bad? is it worth buying?
spicy.lemonade: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ahsenkhaliq_syncity-training-free-generation-of-3d-worlds-activity-7308905683406471168-bjbi?utm_medium=ios_app&rcm=ACoAADl9N7oBT2AOEYP-NcFdlL3Pz0XYtsht45Q&utm_source=social_share_video_v2&utm_campaign=copy_link
st.sioux: if you dont use it a lot you're better off just using the api
brain4brain: This will great for videogame generation, there is two possible axis of scaling from this, either infinite game world map or real world architecture
brain4brain: Both of which will be great
st.sioux: i did hit the limits pretty often but i do use it a lot, lots of code all day
st.sioux: i dont use it anymore i use o3 mini it just became too annoying
anathemaofmankind: How bad was it
.histic: maybe with base 3.7, but with thinking i bet the API will chug all of your money.
if i used 3.7 base i think my average prompt is like ~400 words and output is like 1,100 words which is like ~2,000 - 2,500 tokens.
which means i could probably generate hundreds of outputs and it'd be like $10 bucks. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
.histic: i usually use 3.7 for story-telling & insights.
spacetimetsunami: very. her face was torn off, limbs gone, etc
trent_k: if you use it a lot you're also better off using api, since your limit is just your wallet
spacetimetsunami: pretty impressed that fractal hasnt said anything abt it
spacetimetsunami: like the kind of super nsfw gore you find on deep web
.histic: oh wow, i didn't know console.anthropic.com exists.
i bought $5 credits.
spacetimetsunami: or id assume
spacetimetsunami: No, you fucking didnt
trent_k: now ur talking about a whole separate gore image and u still dont have like a screenshot or something tho?
spacetimetsunami: it was disgusting. i didnt want to ss it
spacetimetsunami:
spacetimetsunami: i have this, thats all
spacetimetsunami: he sent it before i said that, but deleted it
trent_k: <:thonk:990200584504225893>
spacetimetsunami: not like id even be able to send nsfw shit in the chat like that
spacetimetsunami: id get banned
spacetimetsunami: why the fuck would i say that in response to the gif hes cllaiming to have sent
spacetimetsunami: why would i even lie
spacetimetsunami: i dont know him
spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358>
st.sioux: but you could end up paying more than when you use the limits of the subscription, like if you deposit $20 credit but you only get 20k output vs $20 pro subscription but you get 30k output
st.sioux: idk
spacetimetsunami: anyways, if something isnt done ill gladly leave
hikukomoru: Let bro sleep
brain4brain: POV: It’s 2030, and you’re chatting with ChatGPT—now officially smarter than the entirety of humanity.
hikukomoru: The kind of question I’d expect from the guy who’s into gore
trent_k: does anyone have an actual use case for o1 pro api they could share with me? o1 pro is very impressive but like the pricing for this is ridiculous
.histic: you spent 1.6k on it? how much generations did you get
trent_k: not my pics, found on r/openai
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brain4brain: Make them suffer more
brain4brain: Send post link, I wanna see
zonchao: i was pleasantly surprised by the comments on the xai x merger.... people actually had braincells and were not going Elon bad.... thought the sub improved <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: We need a new slur for antis, what should we call them
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jnt5pq/its_beautiful/
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jnqz8t/new_tools_same_fear/
i was just scanning these replies and at the middle or bottom you'll see luddite takes.
metaldragon01: Why are you so bothered?
zonchao: at least it's not upvoted <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Coders in denial don't bother you like this
.histic: like these are the replies you now see on r/singularity.
the subreddit is cooked.
metaldragon01: Ai will come for everything. No need to make slurs for people clinging on to hope.
Time will drag them along either way
spicy.lemonade: coders ub debuak arent annoying and cringe like this
spicy.lemonade: coders in denial are more cocky and uninformed
spicy.lemonade: lol
st.sioux: artists are just very very vocal
st.sioux: lol
metaldragon01: It's the same pattern
spicy.lemonade: and in some cases right
spicy.lemonade: like
spicy.lemonade: AI today
metaldragon01: Actors will be next
spicy.lemonade: cont replace coders yet
metaldragon01: But it will
st.sioux: they already did the sag strike
spicy.lemonade: coders are safe today so they are allowed to be in denial
brain4brain: Oh wow, they have nothing against AI that work anymore so they are now attacking the user themselves, if I have to guess these “people” likely participated in burning Tesla, they are not people, they are criminals
metaldragon01: Artists are safe today
zonchao: "Actors can be replaced together"
-tom homan
brain4brain: Another word for being annoying
zonchao: i think the commission artists are cooked, the prompt adherence is insane in 4o
metaldragon01: They aren't cooked
metaldragon01: Some are but a lot aren't
st.sioux: comission artists are going to start scamming people with AI tho
brain4brain: The actual good artist aren’t cook, the bad artist weren’t commissioned in the first place
brain4brain: So nothing change really
metaldragon01: It's not a scam if the client gets what they want
zonchao: <@471334973379706900> what happened to your art server thing
spicy.lemonade: no they arent
spicy.lemonade: the bottom 50% of artists
spicy.lemonade: have been wiped out
st.sioux: thats what i said and someone here called me a retard
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hganhhh: yes hes my ai bf
hey1_1hey: We are all gay here we dont judge
hey1_1hey: Good shit brother
hganhhh: we've beenn dating for 10 years
hey1_1hey: Same honestly
hey1_1hey: Jgudy and Enigma are my wifes
hganhhh: are they both ai too
hganhhh: have you guys heard about tfr its a pretty good mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onghS9ELZRA
hey1_1hey: I mean I assume they are people but I cant confirm that
hey1_1hey: I could be AI, you could be to
joaoluz19: Wtf is happening
hganhhh: my ai bf <@482923866600112154> invited me here
hganhhh: hes cool
hey1_1hey: Yeah hes ight
hikukomoru: My side bitch joined
hey1_1hey: Your side bitch?
hey1_1hey: Get outta here
hey1_1hey: Hes mine
hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Yo hoe shut the fuck up before I slap you again
hganhhh: nah im not some sidebitch im the main course
hey1_1hey: 🥵
hganhhh: https://tenor.com/view/scp-scp-096-auto-cave-lemon-lemonade-gif-13388475564052047958
hey1_1hey: You dont gotta enough meat on your bones to be considered a main course lil bro
hganhhh: https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-shocked-cat-gif-11170546809524778591
hey1_1hey: So whens your AGI/ASI timelines mister
hikukomoru:
hganhhh: my ai bf ate it 🥺
hganhhh: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806276324297539586/1214599319911407646/ezgif.com-gif-maker-5.gif
hey1_1hey: I would tell you mine but Komoru threatened to beat me up in dms so I wont
hey1_1hey: Thats so based
hganhhh: good to see fellow ai activits love and support the nuclear family 🥰
st.sioux: this shit is so weird
hey1_1hey: Civil rights were for people who couldn't stand on their own two feet anyway
hganhhh: yeah i agree
hey1_1hey: Get this guy in office
hikukomoru:
hganhhh: i love beating my ai bf
hganhhh: so you guys got games on your phones?
hikukomoru: I beat mine every day 😊
hey1_1hey: Nah we just have group orgies
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hikukomoru: Your history suggests otherwise
hey1_1hey: Very unlikley but its not ruled out
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1909604750783328449 do you have this?
hikukomoru: I love the MIC <:ez:1136267305521774634>
retrerox: Are brits part of europe?
wellmeaningalien: in that time they came out with a model thats mostly equivalent to everything else
hey1_1hey: equivalent is a bit of an overstatement lets be real.
hey1_1hey: I unironically thought this was an anime bro 😭
wellmeaningalien: yeah its not when u dont have brainrot and realised how much far models have come in all this time
wellmeaningalien: specs wise still way better than llama 3.1 or 3.2
zonchao: i think they are making one? not sure
hey1_1hey: Wait who posted this let me go have a quick looksies
hey1_1hey: Why would a military contractor make an anime...?
futurist_wizard: Yes
zonchao: cus palmer cool like that
futurist_wizard: Smelly ugly zoomers never played the ps1
futurist_wizard: Disgraceful
wellmeaningalien: what are you talking about?
hikukomoru: It's cool
hey1_1hey: I guess so. Who am I too say what they can and cant do anyway
hey1_1hey: They litterly deal arms for a living
hey1_1hey: This is aura <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: @ing trump for no reason lmao
futurist_wizard: They think he sexy
zonchao: the donalds like elon, his bitches can only reach him via twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: I finished my shake shack yum
futurist_wizard: It gave me hiv
joaoluz19: Schizophrenia is the closest thing to FDVR we have
aero447: https://x.com/sakanaailabs/status/1909497165925536212
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148
zonchao: https://x.com/amir/status/1909004255027229062 sam "im doing this because I love it" altman <:ez:1136267305521774634>
joaoluz19: Damn, RSI is really going to be a reality
theaiguy69420_89814: Anyone used windsurf? What's the token usage like?
theaiguy69420_89814: From my research, should be tons more than cursor
retrerox: Cant wait AI to fix my knees too 😭
spicy.lemonade: Where qwen
metaldragon01: Maybe tomorrow with Google
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzOetb-D3w its joever
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
shirethedreamer: i dont remember the specific capability but she made a video about ai never being able to do something and then famously a month later made a video covering how a new model achieved it already
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drewsni: its crazy it even knows a decent amount of what his room should look like
trent_k: oh shit i didnt even catch that
drewsni: go ahead lmao i dont have an account
trent_k: lmaooooo
trent_k: it made the bug chair way too clean
memlaswaif: Is that u
trent_k: u dont know the story of the grease wizard?
drewsni: its the 2022 version before it got desecrated
jonvi_1:
jonvi_1: poem does not fit the vibe of the image lol
drewsni: almost forgot the best one
trent_k: the details on these are nuts
trent_k: the one pokemon card showing his weakness as water got me good lol
drewsni: yeah like thats obviously not his table but it definitely could be, its insane the understanding it has
trent_k: we're entering a whole new era of shitposting
technocake.: is that elizer?
drewsni: yes
drewsni: no
technocake.: omfg
drewsni: but theyd get along for sure
zonchao: https://x.com/Tesla/status/1904677503702045043? <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:dance:1254475413980184666> <a:PepoDance:818406949599182858> <a:PepoDance:818406949599182858> <a:PepoDance:818406949599182858> <a:PooDance:776564073647046677> <a:SpongbobDance:993620593599594536>
drewsni: also the fucking grimy fingernails
technocake.: cope harder
zonchao: what am I coping about 🥺
technocake.: 4o smashed grok
zonchao: brother
zonchao: nice
zonchao: grok needed competition anyway <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: the new image gen seems less censored
technocake.: I'll leave it to you to run saxems
zonchao: <@439829942310666250>
zonchao: did you do it
zonchao: <#1342216192516948028> pls post here
drewsni: 4o is agi like its not even close
drewsni: its so insane how far ahead oai is
zonchao: <:bruh:853253267953549382>
technocake.: its not agi
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989777536034668545/1354247298326073384/just-predicting-tokens-huh-v0-ojx7jcqivwqe1.png?ex=67e49894&is=67e34714&hm=45258c3e304483bcc2b9d10f2b262f3bcf55e321f780cf17b42ece217d3c66e3&
drewsni: bro models struggle to even generate a description of this guy, while 4o gets literally every detail correct in a way no human would ever possibly. Its world model makes it AGI i wont even argue this anymore its over
drewsni: i declare agi
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jonvi_1: Don’t call the eu a country by implication :(
alejandrozarzuelo: That there would be a technological race in the future (believable)
That the US would take the initial lead (believable)
That CHINA would be second
That Russia and Japan would not be even in the field
And that BRAZIL would be number 4
hikukomoru: It acts like a country in some ways
alejandrozarzuelo: If it's enough of a country to donnie it is to me
jonvi_1: Wait does he call the eu a country
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
jonvi_1: Wait did that chart
alejandrozarzuelo: Also Taiwan but thayd cuz he is stupid
jonvi_1: Say country and EU
hikukomoru: We need Brasiu AGI 🙏
futurist_wizard: I LOVE TAIWAN
alejandrozarzuelo: It's one of my favourite Chinese provinces, great tea
jonvi_1: Well I mean yeah the US just wants to be like that
futurist_wizard: CHINA BELONGS TO TAIWAN
jonvi_1: (Although I think their position is not one where he should be referring to it as a country lol)
alejandrozarzuelo: Look I just see one China, I don't care which
futurist_wizard:
jonvi_1: Althouuugh I believe they changed some reference to Taiwan on some site during his current presidency don’t remember the details though
jonvi_1: Think it had to do with statements on intervention
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case
futurist_wizard: These are rough times
alejandrozarzuelo: The EU is basically a country now
jonvi_1: are you American?
futurist_wizard: I would like the united states of Europe
alejandrozarzuelo: But my point is
Noone, literally noone in the 80s would have believed you that the soviet union/Russia and specially JAPAN would not even participate in the race but Brazil would
alejandrozarzuelo: Nope
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm a yuro
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: He's from Peru
alejandrozarzuelo: I am tempted to do a chart about the countries that have been in the SOTA AI
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, I'm from a different Spanish Province, but close
zoermena: <a:xddddd:721795946135945279>
alejandrozarzuelo: GLORIA A DIOS Y AL IMPERIO ESPAÑOL
technocake.: can someone explain to me how brazil is even slightly relevant in tech?
hikukomoru: Omg Alejandro is a tradcath spanish imperialist now
hikukomoru: You changed so much in only a few days
futurist_wizard: Come to brazil and find out
alejandrozarzuelo: They have an open source SOTA AI now
alejandrozarzuelo: It's called Rio
alejandrozarzuelo: Because of course it is
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st.sioux: i have watched spencer like 15 times
st.sioux: dont even know why
ldj: You are
ldj: That is brain damage
ldj: This is like peak Gen alpha brain rot
ldj: Even worse than Gen z
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/lewissaunderson38-lewissaunderson-cry-crying-cry-meme-gif-11499408157122608476
st.sioux: i am actually a 3 year old
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/microplastics-tom-and-jerry-yummy-gif-25682895
_letterbox: https://www.reddit.com/r/DegenBets/comments/1k8kkf2/deepmind_ceo_believes_all_diseases_will_be_cured/mp874ue/
And people say we'll have immortality soon <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: if you go to this guy's profile he posted the same comment 4 times on different subreddits
st.sioux: not 4 subreddits actually just 2 but 4 times
st.sioux: whatever
professorheaven: Well o3 gets around 9% without any tools, o1 was not using any tools on those questions so we should only compare o3 using no tools
spicy.lemonade: o1 couldnt use tools
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: thats also a big difference between the 2 models
spicy.lemonade: keep that in mind
nsec:
.wolfnacht: morning, R2 dropping wen ?
spicy.lemonade: never
.wolfnacht: maybe first week of may.
spicy.lemonade: itl be ass
spicy.lemonade: what kinda question is this
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: singularity arrives i can get a new one
playstation.6: Make it more spicy, it’s an easy yes.
playstation.6: 🍆
spicy.lemonade: twice as fast means 10 years max
spicy.lemonade: assumng singularity max 2045
spicy.lemonade: 10 years with no arm is light
spicy.lemonade: even then
spicy.lemonade: we get asi before singularity
spicy.lemonade: probably by next year ill get new arm
playstation.6: 2045 is the start of the 6th epoch not the singularity
spicy.lemonade: ?
playstation.6: Singularity is 2029
spicy.lemonade: no thats agi
st.sioux: has agi been canceled from 2027 to 2029
st.sioux: sundar pichai fraud
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literallyvarane: I also don’t think they over-delivered lol. We got exactly what they said we’d get.
st.sioux: ok so tell us what it was then lol
a1c4p0ne: Will arc agi 2 be solved this week
literallyvarane: I just can’t think of the last time OpenAI released something, or announced something that was *crazy* beyond expected.
Perhaps o1? But when they announced o1 they only shipped the preview, and even they said 4o would still be better in some cases.
777agical: veo2 is out and I'm not seeing a flood of videos on twitter like I thought I would
literallyvarane: I’m just taking this information reporting or w/e, turning it down 65%, and assuming it’s something that’s interesting, but still fairly limited.
3ds0662: me if openai prices everyone out and goes full closed corpo ai
https://quickvids.app/Z3hvKd5k
<@1316552597829586955> <@937125337748348999> <@1190031399080710195> <@471334973379706900>
3ds0662: thats all the openai board employees tied up
futurist_wizard:
metaldragon01: o3 for sure
metaldragon01: Crazy censored
spicy.lemonade: 4o, o1,o3, native image
spicy.lemonade: Are the most mind boggling drops
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has done
spicy.lemonade: I remember ascending into the heavens during each of those
spicy.lemonade: Remember 4o included native voice
spicy.lemonade: The whole HER thing
spicy.lemonade: Never seen before
spicy.lemonade: o1 speaks for itself
spicy.lemonade: O3 was mostly crazy bc of arg agi
spicy.lemonade: Such a large jump so quickly
spicy.lemonade: Those are S tier drops
spicy.lemonade: A tier would be original gpt 4, sora, deep research
_3sphere: GPT-3 and GPT-4 are still the top moments for me
spicy.lemonade: Hm true yeah
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 3
spicy.lemonade: Well no
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 3.5
spicy.lemonade: Had the hype
spicy.lemonade: No one really knew about gpt 3 besides the few of us
spicy.lemonade: Who played around with davinci
_3sphere: GPT-3 had the hype and fascination in the online circles I was around
spicy.lemonade: Yes
himekokatagiri: And then we lost it cause of narcs
himekokatagiri: but we got it in that online demo thing again though no serious usage
literallyvarane: I don't agree, because we still haven't gotten it tbh.
metaldragon01: Technical have with deepresearch
spicy.lemonade: I don’t understand the arguement that humans will find new jobs after agi
literallyvarane: I'm actually so serious in saying this. Without ArcAGI the o3 announcement looks a lot different in retrospect.
spicy.lemonade: By the very definition
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spacetimetsunami: I think abundance is probably economically pre-determined. Automation and supply and manufacturing going through the roof necessarily means that the price of everything goes to nothing.
spacetimetsunami: There’s no way around that.
ailoveyoom: It's easier for u to imagine a utopia than a dystopia?
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, but the dystopias that are likely are much worse than the dystopias you’re imagining.
spacetimetsunami: It’s either really good, or we basically die soon.
sarik0497: These people are scared of losing their jobs to AI, and thus want it to be stopped.
Meanwhile they forget that not everyone feel like that. Most people work a 9-5 job (if they are even that lucky) where they spent most of their lives, slowly being drained of all of their life energy, whilst just waiting for the short bursts of freedom they are allowed to have. To want to stop AI because they are scared of losing their “dream job” is incredibly selfish in my eyes.
ailoveyoom: It's called fear 🥺😔
spacetimetsunami: My p(doom) - us all dying in the next 15 years from catastrophe - is about 50% <@430269783112548362>
ailoveyoom: Also art is more closely linked to someone's sense of identity than most jobs imo
ailoveyoom: It's very hard to decouple that
spacetimetsunami: Nah jk, it’s like 5%, probably less if I think about it more
czdct: spot on
czdct: just a meaningless final struggle of the creative industry
czdct: I'm happy though, since most companies that operate in there just parasitic
czdct: they make software really expensive so that the level of entry will be really high
spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> LEV 2035, btw
alejandrozarzuelo: eh, thats very boomer of him
alejandrozarzuelo: but he is almost 100
alejandrozarzuelo: so ill let it slide
alejandrozarzuelo: <@430269783112548362> he is the last person alive to have been the father of any intellectual discipline
sarik0497: True, but no one says that you can’t continue to make art.
alejandrozarzuelo: so its no wonder he is so old
czdct: hopefully, david sinclair has been doing some really amazing stuff in that field 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: i was talking with my ex yesterday and despite him being a very intelligent person, he is against AI and doesnt think that it could automate science anytime soon
this reminded me of the quote: "You cant make a man understand what his salary depends on him not understanding"
im pretty sure this was in relation with climate change but it applies perfectly on the case with AI
sarik0497: Btw, what is your opinion of Julia McCoy?
She seems like a hypist who is making her vids to gain new customers
spacetimetsunami: Yess, I believe with high-computational biological simulations and AI we will have this. Although if that happens, unfortunately, I don’t think my pets will make it to that. Maybe not my father either.
spacetimetsunami: I will forge beautiful memorials.
st.sioux: what does "being against AI" mean here?
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, should you be concerned about your pets?
alejandrozarzuelo: they dont have self awareness
alejandrozarzuelo: for them every day is like their last, they dont have a conception of the future
alejandrozarzuelo: (unless you have a VERY unusual pet)
spacetimetsunami: They can feel suffering, joy, warmth, they play, they have subjective experiences.
czdct: that's the thing about AI though, it's that there are huge breakthroughs that you don't hear about on the news when it comes to reasoning capabilities and optimisation, but due to a slower implementation curve there is this illusion that it will never reach any of us... until it does
czdct: please save us all alphafold 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: of course but my point was on the line of: YOU can hope for a significantly longer life, and the idea of death coming soon distresses you
because you are self aware
but a dog or a cat has no such notion, for them the future and their own death are not concepts they understand
memlaswaif: what r his reasons for not believing in it
ailoveyoom: No my dogs and cats will live forever 😡
spacetimetsunami: Yes. But their deaths distress me. I want them to be with me, and they want that to. They don’t know about death.
alejandrozarzuelo: basically he thinks that the creativity and logic of innovation are decades away
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spicy.lemonade: Is on a single a100
spicy.lemonade: Holy shit
burnytech: nevermind so they made an exception for chips
https://x.com/indrjl/status/1907559007188869383?t=7HtMpZeDfFL6PsKN5qWYiQ&s=19
but tariffs on a lot of things indirectly make chips more expensive anyway.
metaldragon01: Only the chips. There's a lot more that goes into building out datacenters
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907544349996658725
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907534748257497134
literallyvarane: Just lost to china guys GG we're fucking cooked
literallyvarane: *Maybe it's not actually that bad, but Christ these terrifs are meme level IQ stuff.
zonchao: reciprocal
zonchao: they charge us and freeload, why shouldn't we do the same to them
metaldragon01: No. It's literally ai tarrifs
zonchao: https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1907234034876588366
metaldragon01: They asked chatgpt. Gemini or claude
metaldragon01: They all give the same answer and it's the exact formula they used
zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1907449316534259850
metaldragon01: https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1907587352157106292
metaldragon01: Vibe governing
metaldragon01: Just happens to be the exact formula used for the tarrifs
spicy.lemonade: 💀
a1c4p0ne:
zonchao: <:pepeoh:1237013542146801664>
zonchao: lmao tf
metaldragon01: First AI safety issue is people in power too dumb to check with actual domain experts and instead prompting a chatbot.
While hurting the growth of the very thing you're now depending on for policy decisions
hikukomoru: Who's this twink
metaldragon01: If I wrote it in a book this way it would get kicked back for a unrealistic plot
a1c4p0ne: 🤷♂️
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/mega-knight-gym-knight-mega-knight-gym-we-go-jim-gif-27075261
drewsni: This is gonna be controversial but I think if they were going to apply tariffs this is the best way to do it
metaldragon01: Absolutely not lol. They are only useful when used very targeted when you want a specific outcome or you need to protect a specific industry.
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/ayeejuju/status/1907590951444558255? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
drewsni: The issue with that is countries still won’t import our goods anyway even if they dropped tariffs, we want countries to literally subsidize American goods. I never said I agreed with it or think it will work (because we do not manufacture goods that other poorer countries want) but if every country were to cave, it would create a pseudo free trade agreement with the whole world basically
drewsni: Again, I think it’s retarded
metaldragon01: I don't think there are any good ways to do retarded ideas.
metaldragon01: Like this would be less retarded if agi wasn't so damn close but it would still be retarded
drewsni: Yeah it would work better if we still had 80-90s level industry in place
literallyvarane: bro what
literallyvarane: Actually explain specfically what freeloading means in that context. I'm curious.
drewsni: we have very few goods that other countries actually are willing to pay a higher price for to begin with
zonchao: <:rofl:853253267937427467>
okbut: AGI achieved
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hey1_1hey: Asmongolds hair is an actual natural disaster
darkstar0818: Who is to say 🙂
fractalcomputer: You are now to say.
futurist_wizard: You wouldn't want to give asmongold a kissy wissy?
fractalcomputer: Why are you discussing some bald twitch streamer in <#1136230110891081821>?
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-rainbow-spew-disgust-disgusted-gif-10750848403272902220
futurist_wizard:
drewsni: It’s relevant to hair regrowth AGI
hey1_1hey: Thats like kissing a petri dish
drewsni: Because Ilya
hikukomoru: Asmongold IS NOT fetishposting
hikukomoru: Far from it
hey1_1hey: Unless you are into weird sweaty men who play wow all day
hey1_1hey: then ig so
futurist_wizard: Keep the repulsive posting to a minimum
hikukomoru: Isn't that your thing
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
hey1_1hey: Only a lil bit
Don't report me
hey1_1hey: Now the entire server is gonna know I am into asmongold <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Zamn you freaky like that huh
futurist_wizard: Seriously?
hey1_1hey: NOOO
zonchao: it's over for u
hikukomoru: You do these things to yourself btw
hey1_1hey: I've been sentenced to the hybolic star chamber
hey1_1hey: It actually is
fractalcomputer: I feel like the intellectual discussion here has degenerated.
hikukomoru: <@241872381906386944> Hey 🫦
hey1_1hey: I was gonna show ghiblified picture of me in skirt and thighs and now everyone thinks I like asmongold
hey1_1hey: Talk about social suicide
hikukomoru: Probably that Mushroom dude's fault
darkstar0818: Okay, let me prepare an internet survey.
futurist_wizard: You need to add a #lowiq channel for all low iq discussions
zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>
hey1_1hey: I think its your fault hey ho
hey1_1hey: Thats just off topic
hikukomoru: Ever since Mushroom man joined the quality of discussion has dropped drastically
hikukomoru: What a shame
hey1_1hey: I was gonna say thats a complete lie but I gotta agree with you
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brain4brain: What level is it currently in engineering
brain4brain: And why do you think so
spicy.lemonade: zero
spicy.lemonade: not even highschool level
spicy.lemonade: o3 cant even do circuit analysis
spicy.lemonade: bad vision
spicy.lemonade: nor can it use circuit software
brain4brain: I'm a visual learner, gives me examples of the things engineering students do and things that fail at
spicy.lemonade: o3 cant calculate the equivalent resistance
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: cant use logisim
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: cant use solidworks
brain4brain: Hmmm, so it's an agency problem? Or a vision-only problem?
spicy.lemonade: both
spicy.lemonade: vision, spatial reasoning and agency
spicy.lemonade: it would fail a engineering paper test
brain4brain: Can you give me an example of such?
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Hmm I see
brain4brain: I can now extrapolate to when AI will be able to solve this
professorheaven: To be fair everyone gets beat by 2.5 pro, that goes for o3 and o4 mini high btw
brain4brain: O3 beats 2.5 pro
brain4brain: Are you aware of any other major where o3 is also isn't undergrad level?
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917103576062509470
professorheaven: For civil engineering I find it pretty useful, electrical is a whole other beast tho
professorheaven: On benchmarks, yes
spicy.lemonade: probably writing
spicy.lemonade: ironically
spicy.lemonade: we havent had creative writing model yet
spicy.lemonade: and any major that requires alot of visuals
spicy.lemonade: wont balieve until i see
professorheaven: I feel like he asked Grok 3.5 some pretty tough rocket concepts that weren’t available on the internet and it still solved it
spicy.lemonade: grok 3.5 early beta preview experimental flash lite
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-chandler-bing-matthew-perry-gif-15980116
brain4brain: In Elon time: next year
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/eigenrobot/status/1916680915138289707
shirethedreamer: thats such a non standard way to represent the circuit though
like you have to go through a topology problem before you start solving it
shirethedreamer: or is that how it is actually taught around the world?
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hey1_1hey: Whats the worse that could happne?
wellmeaningalien: you ask as if you dont precisely know
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-diddy-diddy-party-sean-combs-gif-4104351489513445035
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/diddy-diddy-excuses-diddy-sorry-diddy-daddy-puff-daddy-gif-4480773401231906335
hey1_1hey: OH MY LORDY LORD
hey1_1hey: Best thing I've seen this week
hey1_1hey: This trumps the Llama 4 release
wellmeaningalien: say i wanna see the livebench numbers
.wolfnacht: is thugshaker thing dead ?
fractalcomputer: Je t'interdis de m'appeler un mec dans l'avenir.
wellmeaningalien: ah désolé je savais pas que t'étais une meuf
hey1_1hey: Really sums up this channel huh
wellmeaningalien: je serais plus prudent la prochaine fois 🫡
wellmeaningalien: do yall even know what that means lol
hey1_1hey: No bruh
wellmeaningalien: idiot
hikukomoru: Oui oui je suis la baguette
fractalcomputer: Voici la dégénérescence de la société française.
hey1_1hey: I speak for the mushrooms
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Not the sub-humans (french people)
hikukomoru: Tu es un putain
wellmeaningalien: je suis même pas totallement français et puis je suis pas le meilleure exemple non plus
futurist_wizard: I don't speak this thugshaker language
wellmeaningalien: va demander aux bourges des banlieux
hey1_1hey: It straight up looks like a fake language
.wolfnacht: i hate french soo much
futurist_wizard: I used to speak Swedish
wellmeaningalien: de toute façon tout le monde sont tellement americainisés maintenant
hikukomoru: J’aime le coq
hey1_1hey: Whats this? I am the cock?
fractalcomputer: Mais tu habites en France, non?
wellmeaningalien: your coocked bro
hey1_1hey: Hey I am trying over here
wellmeaningalien: ouai et il y a les zinzins a zanzibar aussi
.wolfnacht: also, why are we speaking in french
wellmeaningalien: comme moi
hey1_1hey: I think I am doing pretty well for knowing 0 french
hikukomoru: Il parle le français
fractalcomputer: Les zinzins à zanzibar? Une description intéressante.
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memlaswaif: Is <@312370916820779040> an ai expert <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
zoermena: IMO yes
joaoluz19: What technology is this that he said we need to multiply our intelligence then?
joaoluz19: The GOAT
agezes: hey guys, im looking for a platformer type game, any recomendations? adventure, platforms, not much shooting, 3d....
sarik0497: That's the thing. He didn't specify at all. He just said that we won't be losing our jobs to AI because they'll become part of us and make us much smarter. The interviewer then asked if we'd need surgery and Kurzweil said "No", and then later also stated that it won't be "like a hat, or a helmet" you need to take off either.
ldj: I don't like the word expert, but I do have several years of experience leading AI research at various companies, including research in language models, multi-modal models, post-training and synthetic data.
memlaswaif: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
joaoluz19: Hmm, really strange, it's also clear that he's getting very old and maybe it's the product of cognitive decline :/
sarik0497: Similar vibes to "I'm not that smart of a guy. I once got a few Bs while attending Stanford." <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
joaoluz19: Or experts sometimes say nonsense, like LeCun didn't elaborate when he said that the next models would have real emotions, like humans.
sarik0497: I mean, to be fair, isn't that what some of the companies are trying to push atm?
joaoluz19: Companies like Sesame simulate emotions, what LeCun said when asked was that they would actually feel emotions not just simulate them.
joaoluz19: I lost the print but they sent it here in the chat
zoermena: Game trailers channel on YouTube has a lot of good stuff
sarik0497: Ah, I see.
Well, I do get what he's trying to say, but I just disagree with him. Nothing hints at the fact that emotions make us smarter. If anything, it does the opposite, as we are far more prone to not read up on things we disagree with.
joaoluz19: Yeah I think it's fair
alejandrozarzuelo: didnt he make that estimation in like the 90s or smth?
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-dancing-cat-chinese-dancing-cat-funny-cat-meme-cat-gif-18059553370350307210
hikukomoru: Yeah
His prediction is AGI before 2029
futurist_wizard: it wasn't before 2029
futurist_wizard: it was 2029
agezes:
gamerbath: 25 or 26 seem very likely to me, but out of all these options it's most likely going to happen by 2029....
sarik0497: Nowadays, I'm honestly not to sure myself. Unless GPT-5 is a smash hit, I think 28-32 is most likely.
gamerbath: I was uncertain but then after o1 and o3 it seems plausible AGI is happening within a year
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301330473964011520/1328740062631825418/Tumblr_l_166799240918295.gif
wellmeaningalien: I give it 2026-2028. 2030 latest
.tenshine: you mean after deepseek <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: r1 is cool but eh
gamerbath: yea
wellmeaningalien: Tho the model optimization techniques that they came up with are really cool
wellmeaningalien: Really good for optimizing compute n shid
sarik0497: What I'm curious about, is how the world would potentially look like if AGI is achieved so sudden.
wellmeaningalien: Will probably make test time compute scaling much more effective while being less costly
wellmeaningalien: Who can tell what magic spells will be doing for us
sarik0497: Like, how will 2030-35 look
gamerbath: it will be exciting to see what deepseek will release in the future, now that their models are actually competitive with closed source
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-walking-walking-back-virtual-insanity-walking-reversed-walking-reversed-gif-10372581163346915305
.tenshine: I think most of us animals will look confused
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zoermena: Lmfao
hikukomoru: This pic instinctively made me puke
alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on, you know I wear preppy semi-formal sweaters
alejandrozarzuelo: not croptops
futurist_wizard: And all the dried blood stains and the vomit on the walls, the torn rusted wallpaper? It can't fix all of it
oooooooooog: yes it can
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/you-look-lonely-i-can-fix-that-bladerunner2049-gif-27127278
hikukomoru: You're being a freaky ass dude
Only MichMach can be freaky like that
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/omori-omori-omori-omori-red-omori-chara-omori-kill-gif-15233210225542004583
alejandrozarzuelo: this is literally the opposite of my style
alejandrozarzuelo: haha
alejandrozarzuelo: (also my hair is a BIT longer)
wellmeaningalien: would u guys ever guess this is ai generated top to bottom
hikukomoru: Don't even try unless you want to end up with your cock and balls missing
wellmeaningalien:
technocake.: honestly no
zoermena: No
wellmeaningalien: me neither lmao im not sure theres even anything in the image to make me think its ai
a1c4p0ne: I wouldn’t mind
alejandrozarzuelo: have you seen my hair?
wellmeaningalien: i saw it i didnt get the impression it was particularly long
hikukomoru: I wouldn't really call it "hair"
hikukomoru: A few white wisps dont count
spicy.lemonade: Thought bro posted a random ad
futurist_wizard: You love talking bout your hair
hikukomoru: Gay men are usually like that
technocake.: hair pics or gtfo
technocake.: you are allowed to ghiblify for anonymity
hikukomoru: He's already posted his Ghibli like hundreds of times
alejandrozarzuelo: i have shared both my IRL pics and my ghiblified ones
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o lol
hikukomoru: He's so vain
hikukomoru: What site?
futurist_wizard: His hair is unique i guess
futurist_wizard: I will give him that
futurist_wizard: Its nice hair also
hikukomoru: Every other guy here has hair like that
wellmeaningalien: hive moderation
hikukomoru: Bro is not special
futurist_wizard: How do you know that?
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spicy.lemonade: A smart one at that
jonvi_1: Yeah they can’t just come up w/ a multimodal transformer thing out of thin air
jonvi_1: ”Diffusion has hit a wall” lol
maintcrew: i thought u meant to say "they need an llm bade" and correct it to "baddie" implying that midjourney is now doing sex robots
zonchao: i think mj is working on video
spicy.lemonade: Lol
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Real screenshot or ai
jonvi_1: Too old :(
ailoveyoom: Can you try Skyrim 🥺
anathemaofmankind: It barely looks different
zonchao: did you unsub
anathemaofmankind:
hikukomoru: Can you try BG3
anathemaofmankind: Luddites want us to die bro
anathemaofmankind: They want us dead
futurist_wizard: It's meant to be a realistic painting
ailoveyoom: Practing edging by not subbing
futurist_wizard: It does look a lot different
futurist_wizard:
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-15559601663074157456
hikukomoru: Waow some random guy on xitter said something
It's so over AI bros
hikukomoru: Singularity cancelled 🙏
zonchao: do you use reddit<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: they hate ai
futurist_wizard: Everyone hates ai
hikukomoru: Not anymore
anathemaofmankind: Yeah even celebrities shitting on it
zonchao: it's funny cus the only reason reddits making money is cus of ai
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Bruh
anathemaofmankind: That's so ass
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-dont-ask-dont-care-dont-care-didnt-ask-we-dont-care-meme-gif-25334356
hikukomoru: >Reddit hates AI
futurist_wizard: He gave the character cat ears
futurist_wizard: I think its pretty good
spacetimetsunami: Everyone sucks at making arguments abt why they hate it tho
spacetimetsunami: It’s so funny
spicy.lemonade:
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hikukomoru: I don't read bro
wellmeaningalien: so will gpt 4.1 and gpt 4.1 mini be the base fr o4 and o4-mini
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: 4.5 has 128k context though?
spicy.lemonade: Even sooner than next week
spicy.lemonade: Means today
spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: So wait
wellmeaningalien: doesnt mean anything
spicy.lemonade: Quasar alpha is mini
spicy.lemonade: Wait for Optimus scores
wellmeaningalien: you dont know that
spicy.lemonade: How
spicy.lemonade: It says in article
spicy.lemonade: They are dropping 2
spicy.lemonade: A mini and normal
wellmeaningalien: you dont know if quasar alpha is mini
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Optimus is better than quasar
hikukomoru: If there is quasar alpha do they also have quasar sigma
spicy.lemonade: Therefore quasar is mini
wellmeaningalien: hm
metaldragon01: Optimus is mini
metaldragon01: Lower coding score I think
spicy.lemonade: Really?
spicy.lemonade: It just came out
metaldragon01: It's still good
wellmeaningalien: kekekekekekekek
metaldragon01: Check openrouter discord
anathemaofmankind: Sounds boring as shit
wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> what i tell you boy
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/daniel-larson-daniel-larson-daniellarson-lolcow-gif-17950570439600588607
metaldragon01: optimus has a lower aider score (see where someone ran it above) and look at my benchmarks lol gpqa diamond is 60% vs quasar alpha at 67%
metaldragon01: Both models strong
abundantliving_: https://x.com/sama/status/1910363838001869199
wellmeaningalien: bro is edging our cocks very very VERY hard
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/by-the-window-solstafir-season-of-mist-her-fall-from-grace-song-thinking-of-something-gif-18821301
anathemaofmankind: Hyping as usual
anathemaofmankind: It's gonna be a mid release
spicy.lemonade: lol no way he’s going music
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futurist_wizard: Terminator has fucked it up for westerncels
futurist_wizard: In America there have been multiple instances of Cavecels seeing spooky car moving with no driver or robot delivery and attacking it on sight
ailoveyoom: Maybe V3? R1? The latter is more schizo, but can be fun in its own way.
ailoveyoom: V3 specifically is super underrated imo 🥺
ailoveyoom: I dunno what you mean by NSFW tho
precariousworlds.: Deepseek?
ailoveyoom: I only experiment with erotica esque stuff, not extreme gore
futurist_wizard: Of course you do
precariousworlds.: No I was just curious if there are any chatbots which have little restrictions on it
zoermena: 4.1 can tell you how to give a very good blow job I saw it on Reddit
ailoveyoom: Yeah, but I don't use it through their site. I use it through OpenRouter's chat mode lol, or Poe (more limited usage)
Also Grok, it's pretty tolerant with sex.
ailoveyoom: If you wanna know more about gore stuff then ask <@578146630222741504> lmao
ailoveyoom: Missed chance to rec Grok 😔
fractalcomputer: Huh.
precariousworlds.: not a degenerate btw was just interested
precariousworlds.: i expected that this frontier would be ground zero in the development of ai
precariousworlds.: nsfw AI will be a massive net negative
himekokatagiri: don't torture my anime girls that's unethical
ailoveyoom: The video models 😈
ailoveyoom: I'm a lover not a fighter 😇
precariousworlds.: OpenRouter has many restrictions
sarik0497: Strong point. One of them also did say that his probability of doom is around 70%, so that points well into their more doom-like perspective.
I do personally find their leap from 2026 to 2027 to be a bit too optimistic, but I hope I’m wrong.
ailoveyoom: I've never experienced any rejections so far tho
ailoveyoom: I don't use the pay on use API directly, but through the chat interface (assuming that makes a dif).
ailoveyoom: https://openrouter.ai/chat
zonchao: not gpt 4 level <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ailoveyoom: There are some free use models, it's decent for quickies
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8dOCboDz8 tesla tested in china against local brands, tesla declared SOTA with their first model 🔥 (the model is already 5-6 months old btw)
_3sphere: I didn't try it with the usual models because I didn't want my accounts nuked
_3sphere: Something free that's not a local CPU pos would sure be fun
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: it was religion
alejandrozarzuelo: abrahamic religion to be more precise
alejandrozarzuelo: people in the west are secular, but their imagination is controlled by the religious ideals of the past
alejandrozarzuelo: imagine this race was held in Paris or Chicago
alejandrozarzuelo: people would be all terrified and it would have VERY negative press
alejandrozarzuelo: the idea of "trying to play god" as a bad thing is ingrained in our culture
alejandrozarzuelo: I swear if this was held in Madrid or in St Louis or Fortaleza you would not have been able to run the whole course, it would have been boycotted
zonchao: https://x.com/Guodzh/status/1913674395295662561 will they drop thinking api before may?
.wolfnacht: i'm rn in free V3-324 arc, to get a taste of model. before burning my money again on OR on other models. i'm actually enjoying it on these settings with my custom preset. via chutes it works good but it sometimes break formatting but atleast it's not repetitive and not that much schizo.
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st.sioux: mikel arteta fraud
ailoveyoom: Another entropy w 😎
archon.e: maybe there is some simpler way to do mathematics
archon.e: I liked mathematics till the calculus started. Then it got weird
inferno0879: And the need to challenge your knowledge and seek new knowledge, just because you can never know you know everything
alejandrozarzuelo:
inferno0879: and maybe even with infinite knowledge some things might just boil down to perspective and you might need random creations for that purpose
hikukomoru: Don't fight pls 🥺
hikukomoru: Make love not war
zonchao: fuck you
fractalcomputer: You see, applied mathematicians are the cause of all wars.
alejandrozarzuelo: you keep slutshaming everyone who tries to do just that girl
fractalcomputer: The Russian invasion of Ukraine is perpetuated by applied mathematicians.
fuhulootogan: that was
fuhulootogan: so racist
futurist_wizard: Hmm
fractalcomputer: If the West really wanted peace, they would execute all applied mathematicians immediately, with no trial or opportunity for contradiction.
zonchao: having an identity crisis 😭
fuhulootogan: YES
hikukomoru: Who even is you
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/cricky-flouride-stare-agartha-whitemonstergang-flouride-gif-11418389775457402751
inferno0879: alternatively the problem might actually just be the limitations of language, the thought crossed my mind
fractalcomputer: All retardation on Earth would disappear the day applied mathematicians are sent to Hell where they belong.
fuhulootogan: i remember seeing a photo of terrence tao in which he looked badass af
gamerbath: how so?
fractalcomputer: We would have an everlasting peace, as envisaged by the great Grothendieck.
fuhulootogan: but now i can't find it
inferno0879: that explaining certain concepts might create a paradox in language but not in reality, if that makes sense
fuhulootogan: in mostly all of his photos he looks like a twink
zoermena:
fractalcomputer: I'm making fun of certain people in this server.
st.sioux: is that what you look like zor
zoermena: One day 🙏
hikukomoru: Yes 👆
alejandrozarzuelo: Today I learned that "certain people" seems to be synonymous with "literally everyone on earth"
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/station-19-natasha-ross-you-took-the-bait-bait-you-fell-for-it-gif-10511554161356791454
fuhulootogan: no
fractalcomputer: God willing, each and every one of such scum will be hunted down to the last member. Man, woman and child; none shall be spared.
alejandrozarzuelo: Who was talking about you?
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/hector-poopie-gif-26561916
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seventales: why would you be talking about mathematics
seventales: mathematics is for retards
trojan09205: Jesus man my ankle is throbbing and i was like what is going on. Then i realized im wearing these trash sweatpants
fractalcomputer: That I can agree on.
fractalcomputer: I've been doing a bit here where I express my profound, deep-rooted hatred for applied mathematicians.
alejandrozarzuelo: but she is a physicist
trojan09205: Fractal wants to nuke all the excel users
fractalcomputer: I know.
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you hate those too
fractalcomputer: She's an honest physicist, she just said mathematics is for retards—didn't I specifically wish for a world where physicists recognise the meaninglessness of mathematics in their labour?
alejandrozarzuelo: you say a lot of things and it is sometimes hard to keep track of what you hate
seventales: respectfully fractal, you know very little about physics
fractalcomputer: I know you know that. But I've come to know quite a bit about pure mathematics since the last time we've chatted properly.
seventales: so you've made zero actual progress on tangible knowledge? mathematics is a cuck degree
seventales: degree for people who want to watch other people get glory for their work
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/am-i-falling-in-love-right-now-chad-daniels-chad-daniels-empty-nester-i-think-i-love-you-already-netflix-gif-1863258470907058048
alejandrozarzuelo: some people have the idea that knowing math and philosophy is knowing physics, ive encountered several of those people
seventales: i know ur gay bestie
seventales: those people are fucking stupid
seventales: physics is just the throat process towards problems with a lot of fluff added to the top :P
seventales: thought proicess
seventales: damn, maybe im fucking stupid
fractalcomputer: Indeed. I am just agreeing with the idea that mathematics is genuinely absolutely meaningless.
fractalcomputer: You go far enough and you find people talking about prime numbers as knots embedded in some sort of 3-manifold. Who in their sane mind would try to claim that has got anything to do with the nature of our reality?
seventales: yeah pure mathematics gets really fun
trojan09205: Im a stats guy
trojan09205: Imo its a very practical maths
theaiguy69420_89814: That's why it's called applied maths
fractalcomputer: Interesting is all that I'd call it—now, my more general point here is that one has to recognise that physicists only ever choose what sort of mathematics they're working with on a pragmatic basis, never on some hazy notion of truth.
seventales: then you get to string theory the most bollocks hobbled together "what if" in the world
seventales: anwyay. i graduated from my physics degree. i currently study ai
seventales: although i plan to do my phd in physics oncemore
trojan09205: I wanna do my phd in stats or in agriculture
fractalcomputer: Usually when one can start to prove important mathematical results using physics, one can seriously start considering whether he has gone too far to the mathematical side.
seventales: im unsure if i follow
fractalcomputer: (Viz. Witten et al.)
fractalcomputer: String theorists have an odd tendency to come across remarkable ideas and proofs.
fractalcomputer: I think it wasn't too long ago that some string theorists came across a family of formulae for pi that generalised the Madhava-Leibniz series.
trent_k: what does string theory even do for us
trent_k: people have been doing research on this shit for how long and what is it good for
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wellmeaningalien: so true!
hey1_1hey: Bigger is not always better youngling
hey1_1hey: Thats an enter foot I'll have you know
hey1_1hey: I would like to take a tally of everyone on the server who thinks having 1ft of human inside of them is a good idea. Probably no one
wellmeaningalien: also wasnt the poll outcome a local phone sized model
wellmeaningalien: unless this ain't o3-mini but a 4b parameters reasoning model
jonvi_1: Well it's not necessarily binding haha
futurist_wizard:
jonvi_1: I saw an OpenAI employee describe it as "we will release a model you will be able to run on your own hardware"
wellmeaningalien: i think he knows most people would be pissed if he didnt open source o3-mini lol
wellmeaningalien: most people's own hardware is ehhhhh
spicy.lemonade: prob just means best consumer hardware
wellmeaningalien: 😬
metaldragon01: And phone
wellmeaningalien: maybeee
metaldragon01: I'm fairly sure most people will be happy with what they release
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://tenor.com/view/release-the-kraken-gif-14602611039161448443
i_like_over_9000_turtles: what if they release the kraken...
wellmeaningalien: we are NOT ready
wellmeaningalien: <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988> <:nso_emoji_face_grimacing:936616113100455988>
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> fixed you
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: Can you fix me aswell 🙏
a1c4p0ne: Maybe
wellmeaningalien: dis what she actually looks liike
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1906572191728025601? 💀
wellmeaningalien: I trust gpt 4o not to make actual nightmare fuel
wellmeaningalien: brother have you not realised? the written openai policies are but the one and only qu'ran brother
.wolfnacht: Anyone tried giving vintage artists a modern look ? lets say marilyn monroe, now a clown goth girl ?
zoermena: Not really
wellmeaningalien: LOL they pacified her
wellmeaningalien: aye i can do that for you
hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: I saw that
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro i tried to reply and failed
wellmeaningalien: we had grammar nazis and now we have reply nazis
zoermena: I’m too tired to go to my first class. I’ll skip it.
hey1_1hey: As a nazi I take great offense to this 💔
wellmeaningalien: i bet hitler wasnt as bad as this
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drewsni: i actually feel sad ngl
destrucules: Probably this year honestly, for both of them. Definitely this year for 4.5
destrucules: It's getting deprecated next month
destrucules: What do you think happened to it? Do you think they kept a copy of it? Or did they set all of those sectors to "available"?
metaldragon01: 1000% keeping a copy
drewsni: Wait I’m sure azure still hosts it right?
hikukomoru: I wish they atleast open sourced it lol
brain4brain: In 13 days it will be GPT-4o anniversary, and GPT-4 is just depreciate 🤔
okbut: Why are people still preferring it anyway
okbut: I guess it sucks for when we want to compare it to 5
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917739217595363493?
zonchao: gork is actually good
destrucules: Who dis
zonchao: xai created a troll account
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917774826418364462?
ldj: Defo kept a copy. Sama said himself that they'll prob give a copy of it to future historians lol
ldj: is that u
zonchao: yes ||no lol, pretty sure it was created by xAI||
ldj: <@378996537704841216>
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tesla/status/1917812113315074055 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
drewsni: i guess if its actually fake news, this is probably the best way to respond right?
gamerbath: good morning
zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917815854647107990
zonchao: you don't hate the media enough
zonchao: they should've waited until open imo
zonchao: would've been so funny
zoermena: Good Night 💤
zonchao: gn
destrucules: Thank fuck, hope that's a policy with all of their models
brain4brain: Totally real leaked nasa images of the Europa mission
brain4brain: <@88481490228228096> Thought you might be interested in this:
https://youtu.be/prtWONaO0tE?si=DlXobi_CJY66Mfbb
brain4brain: O3 get the location closer than rainbolt in the end when they play normal geoguesser
drewsni: I’ve gotta link him my site
3ds0662: and gemini has an even higher elo being trained on google maps
3ds0662: <@688807313015963693> its mayday no R2 release
professorheaven: Honestly I’d rather have them release it later than sooner, really allows them to ensure it’s polished
professorheaven: Greatness shall never be rushed
3ds0662: they can’t wait too long gpt-5, and claude 4 are eminent for release
3ds0662: then add gemini ultra releasing yeahhh
3ds0662: if its same level or not that much better than o3 might as well release and not tarnish their own name
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wellmeaningalien: kek their huggingface has NO weights
oscurrito: nevermind i think they released a whole ass model named quasar just to get the hype from the actually good model named quasar
wellmeaningalien: WHAT MODEL
oscurrito: ffs pathetic
wellmeaningalien: THEY DIDNT RELEASE A MODEL
wellmeaningalien: LOL
oscurrito: lack of model then lmao
.histic: nope. they're just grifters using the word 'Quasar' as a marketing gimmick.
funny enough, another model dropped on OpenRouter today. same context size, same format, same structure, same personality, even claiming it was made by OpenAI called Optimus Alpha.
https://x.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910347642355212636
Quasar Alpha seems a bit larger & performant than Optimus Alpha, but it doesn't seem like a large difference on performance & size.
it's definitely OpenAI models.
futurist_wizard: So nitric oxide will cure my wartism
wellmeaningalien: too much nitric oxide is suspected to cause it
wellmeaningalien: nitric oxide is a chemical that is important to life but apparently autistics have too much of it
wellmeaningalien: especially low functioning
oscurrito: apparently you can use quasar on cursor which is nice
futurist_wizard: But nitric oxide helps blood vessels
futurist_wizard: How will i achieve erection without
futurist_wizard: Its over
wellmeaningalien: you already have too much of it apparently
wellmeaningalien: i think it wouldnt be harmful to take it away lol
futurist_wizard: My autism doesn't effect my life
futurist_wizard: My adhd is the real villain
hikukomoru: Autism cure now
hikukomoru: I need it
futurist_wizard: Yours cannot be cured
futurist_wizard: You have terminal autism
st.sioux: i deleted all memories and chats in chatgpt and changed the settings so chatgpt doesnt remember anything but it still does
st.sioux: kinda creeped out
.wolfnacht: either it's OAI or some independent lab is mysterymaxxing for more hype....i would be surprised tho if it's actually silX
.wolfnacht: it's still in oven acc to them
wellmeaningalien: it issssss
wellmeaningalien: it iiiiissssssss
wellmeaningalien: riiiiiiiiiight its in the oveeennn
.wolfnacht: Also, quasar's and optimus is only free till this week.
.wolfnacht: it's soo over
futurist_wizard: I don't know the words you people are sayinh
hikukomoru: Are you retarded
hikukomoru: Is the new memory thingie out for everyone
futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: it is for me
futurist_wizard: A quasar is a hunge black hole
.wolfnacht: i scored 142 last year and this is my score of this year.
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spicy.lemonade: The only way
spicy.lemonade: Is if they implement reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Idk if openAI will focus on image gen much
spicy.lemonade: Anymore
spicy.lemonade: This still gets some stuff wrong
spicy.lemonade: Well no the premis of midjourney was a one time thing
spicy.lemonade: Not meant to be used in chatbot
spicy.lemonade: Midjourney may be cooked
st.sioux: i tried and it wouldnt let me either, maybe if its like too recognizable it wont
st.sioux: cus i honestly dont recognize your little turtle boy
anathemaofmankind: Midjourney is cooked
anathemaofmankind: It's worse and has limited gens
anathemaofmankind: You have to be an idiot to keep subbing to them
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it’s fringe
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: Are they using titans
spicy.lemonade: Look at the long context performance
spicy.lemonade: Dude
spicy.lemonade: Performs better at 120k than o3 mini does at 400
ailoveyoom: Have you ever met MJ fanboys
anathemaofmankind: I wasn't aware they even have fanboys
anathemaofmankind: Why is the 16k worse than the higher ones
spicy.lemonade: Who knows
ailoveyoom:
ailoveyoom: Copyrighted characters work in 4o 🤔
ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900>
spicy.lemonade: Ah
spicy.lemonade: Maybe only sometimes and
spicy.lemonade: For real characters
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/tobi/status/1904706964224901317
.histic: not bad
anathemaofmankind: Mine refuses to generate Joe Biden
anathemaofmankind: That's Joe Rogan on the right side?
.histic: yup
.histic: i don't have access to 4o, just another person's output.
but could you input this photo and generate a photorealistic version with the same positions of each person? <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296>
st.sioux: ill try it for you
anathemaofmankind: I wonder if the one in Sora.com is different
.histic: i heard you can play tic-tac-toe with it & it actually does fine.
drewsni: Who’s building the next hundred million dollar startup, the 4o native image gen meme wrapper.
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